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Randall
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posted March 28, 2004 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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Aselzion
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posted September 19, 2004 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
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miss_apples
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posted November 16, 2004 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for miss_apples     Edit/Delete Message
Have you seen the Quest Tarot? I have it but I dont use it....just never connected with it. However its a very interesting deck and shows the astrological associations of the cards.

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Aselzion
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posted November 16, 2004 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

That is one of the Tarot decks that never really appealed to me, so I do not have it.

In terms of the astrological associations, I don't know what system for allocating the cards to Astrology they use, but there are several methods in circulation. I gave the one I was comfortable with...

There is a Tarot out there called The Cosmic Tarot, and I believe that the allocations they use are the ones I gave here. But I also have that deck.

Blessings...
A

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"The ALL is MIND; the Universe is Mental." *** The Kybalion

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miss_apples
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posted November 17, 2004 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for miss_apples     Edit/Delete Message
Yep Ive got the cosmic tarot on my wishlist

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Randall
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posted November 18, 2004 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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Aselzion
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posted May 31, 2005 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
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"The ALL is MIND; the Universe is Mental." *** The Kybalion

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Randall
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posted September 20, 2005 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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posted May 23, 2006 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
Bump. I felt as if I was taking a Mind Steroid while reading this Tarot to Astrology Map. B.O.T.A rocks

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Randall
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posted May 24, 2006 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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posted July 04, 2006 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Aselzion, these correspondences are fascinating and helpful. I have felt very close to the King of Cups, which would make sense with my (aqua) moon in the 1st,
and cancer on the DC. Congratulations on your up-coming vacation. Hawaii, wow!
That's terrific.

take care,
hsc

"Here, in the card of the King of Cups, we meet the active, dynamic dimension of water, which overtly seeks to form relationships and even to guide and help others. This is embodied in the mythic figure of Orpheus, the singer, who was both priest and healer, yet whose own story is sad and lonely although he brought comfort to his fellows. Orpheus was the son of the Thracian King Oeagrus and the Muse Calliope, and he was the most famous poet and musician who ever lived. Apollo presented him with a lyre and the Muses taught him its use, so that he not only enchanted the wild beasts, but made even the trees and rocks move from their places to follow the sound of his music. He joined the Argoanauts on their quest for the Golden Fleece, and his music helped them to overcome many difficulties. On his return, he married Eurydice, and settled in Thrace. But his life was not destined to be happy. One day a man tried to assault Eurydice in the valley of the River Peneius, and she trod on a serpent as she fled and died of its bite. But Orpheus boldly descended into the underworld, hoping to fetch her back. He not only charmed the ferryman Charon, the three-headed dog, Cerberus and the three Judges of the Dead with his plaintive music, but temporarily suspended the tortures of the damned, and so far soothed the dark heart of Hades that he won leave to restore Eurydice to the upper world. But Hades made one condition: that Orpheus might not look behind him until she was safely back in the light of the sun. Eurydice followed Orpheus up through the dark passages, guided by the sound of his lyre. But at the last moment he lost his trust, and looked back to see whether she was still there, and so he lost her forever. After this Orpheus took up the role of a priest, teaching the mysteries and preaching the evil of sacrificial murder to the men of Thrace. But the god Dionysos grew jealous of him because his fame spread and men began to worship him as though he were divine. The god set his mad maenads upon Orpheus, and they tore him to pieces in their frenzy. The Muses tearfully collected his limbs and buried them at the foot of Mount Olympus, where the nightingales now sing more sweetly than anywhere else in the world.

"Orpheus, the King of Cups, is an image of the wounded healer, the figure who through compassion and empathy can heal others yet who cannot heal his own hurt in the realm of the heart. In many ways he is the ancient equivalent of many modern social workers and psychotherapists-- the individual who longs to be in touch with the world of feeling, and tries constantly to help others to relate, yet who sometimes lacks trust in his or her own personal life and therfore cannot ultimately achieve the fulfililng relationship which is so desired. The King of Cups places human relationship and human love above everything, and will go to great lengths to initiate and preserve this emotional contact. Yet he remains curiously uncomfortable, and must keep looking back to see whether what he has initiated is still behind him, still intact. Thus he often loses the very thing which he most desires. This figure is deeply paradoxical, as though the element of water - which is in many ways an image of the feminine world of feeling - sits uncomfortably with the masculine and dynamic image of the King. The two are awkward together, and create a strange ambivalence. The King of Cups is a moody and sensitive figure, and often gifted with great depth of feeling and a rare gift at communicating that feeling to affect and influence others. But this is the relationship of performer to audience. He himself never quite relinquishes control. It is for this reason that Dionysos' maenads, the crowd of ecstatic women who follow in the god's train, dismember him, for in a sense he must first be powerless and metaphorically torn to pieces before he can be something other than the wise counsellor to other people's pain. Orpheus himself has no real fulfillment in life, having forfeited his own chance of personal happiness thorugh his mistrust of Hades' word. This in itself tells us a good deal about the King of Cups, for although he may initiate relationship and talk constantly of it, he does not ultimately trust the world of the unconscious, which he cannot see. Thus he is enthroned near the water, but cannot submerge himself in it, for he fears the drowning which letting go to another might entail. When the King of Cups appears in a spread, it is time for the individual to experience this amivalent side of himself or herself - the gifted counsellor and healer who can empathize with and help others, yet who cannot quite trust life enough to take its course. It is characteristc that many of those in the helping professions choose such a vocation because they have been wounded though personal relationships, often those with the parents, and thus they form relationships where they reamain ultimately in control and cannot be that deeply hurt again. Although this kind of dynamic may contribute a great deal to others, one cheats oneself. If the King of Cups enters the individuals's life in the form of a person who embodies these qualities, then this may be taken as an indication that it is time to meet this dimension of oneself."

((from: The Mythic Tarot))

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"Your faces are beautiful,
but they are wooden masks.

You had better run from me.
My words are fire.

- Rumi

"Advice doesnt help lovers!
This is not the kind of mountain stream
you can build a damn across."

- Rumi
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sVirgo
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posted December 09, 2007 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sVirgo     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Aselzion for this information.

I am trying to understand more about tarot cards.

If there is any other posting which I can relate with Lindagoodman star cards, please literate me.

Thank you!

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Randall
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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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