posted January 22, 2005 05:11 PM         

Upright it shows "rest, recuperation, retreat, etc." Does that mean reversed it would show that it's a good time to make a move? The "rest-time" is over? Or does it show that these meanings will be stronger or more negative?

I know sometimes a reversed card shows the opposite of the upright meaning. But other cards show that the upright meaning is even stronger when reversed? Which one to go with.....?

I only have one Tarot book ATM (I let someone borrow the others and havent seen them since) and it doesnt give reversed meanings. I'm going to do some research on the web, but I'm interested in anyones comments and I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

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posted January 22, 2005 07:12 PM         

I asked for some guidance in my dreams before I went to bed last night and had some amazing dreams. The emotions/feelings to the dreams were positive and I found myself in a different area around alot of people that I dont know right now but seemed to know them well in the dream. In the dream I was going back to school and I was looking at some beautiful paintings that I had done. In waking life I don't plan on going back to "school-school", but have been in a major learning/growing cycle on my own. More in the sense of being my own teacher and learning all I can from life and books. And I have been painting alot lately, especially over the past few days.

Looking at my Solar return chart for this year it seems it is going to be an important year with some major changes (SR Sun conj. MC). Unlike this past year which, if I had to put a Tarot card to, it would be the Hermit. (Solar Return Sun, Moon & NN were in the 12th .)

Anyway....sorry just rambling here - moon's in Gemini conj. my Venus right now. LOL I am really curious to the meaning of that card. Thank you for your insight, I appreciate it. Just thought I would "put some stuff out there", to see what would "come back".

posted January 22, 2005 11:42 PM         

I think all the 4's relate to a "time" element, whether it be a delay or a "stop the world I wanna get off for a while".

When this 4 is reversed, as long as there are no high Swords cards (8 - 9 - 10) in the reading, then I look at this card as recovery is complete, illness is on the mend and the time for action is arriving. If the high Swords I just mentioned are there showing stressors and possibilities of ill health, then now might not be a good time to make a move.

Reversals are not always impediments, nor are they always the "opposite" meaning from the upright. Sometimes they function like a retrograde planet in Astrology showing an inward turn of the energy, rather than an ability to use the energies directly, if that makes any sense!

Other time the reversal will amplify the meaning of the card, particularly the 5 of Swords, which I regard as one of the "worst" cards in the deck. (if that can be said to be true of any of the cards) This 5 is no better reversed than upright in my experience, and does not bode well for friendships, relationships and partnerships of ANY type, as to me it shows that there is a gain over another by violent, or underhanded means. I think the crossed swords in the card tell alot about the true meaning of this card. There is also one very obvious "winner" who seems to benefit from the altercation, if you will, to the disadvantage of another. In other word this cards is a " I win / you lose" vibration, and does not generally show up in a win-win scenario.

At any rate, I'm tired and blizzard bound at the moment, so I may not be making as much sense as I'd like. But I think the gist is there.

Good luck and blessings...

A

posted January 23, 2005 03:08 AM         

There were not any high Swords in the spread, so that's good.

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Reversals are not always impediments, nor are the always the "opposite" meaning from the upright. Sometimes they function like a retrograde planet in Astrology showing an inward turn of the energy, rather than an ability to use the energies directly, if that makes any sense!

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Wow, that's a great tid-bit. Good to know and makes perfect sense.

I know what you mean about the energy of the 5 of Swords. I've never like seeing that card come up. That one, and the 5 of Pentacles. I've never liked that card either.

Well thank you again. I've got to get back into the Tarot - flex those muscles - it's been awhile.

I'm a blizzard bound New Englander as well and off to bed myself. Thanks for your insight. I really appreciate it. Stay warm!

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posted January 23, 2005 04:38 PM         

I just think its a card that is misunderstood

But I can see all the 4's as being "stuck in a rut" or "inactivity" cards. So reversed meaning "ready for action" makes sense.

posted January 23, 2005 09:07 PM         

To me this card is all about opening your eyes. Awakening. Getting out of your own mental bars. Reuniting your physical and spiritual worlds. Finding an alignment with them.

posted January 23, 2005 09:44 PM         

The gate has a chain and is padlocked (only the padlock is open but the child doesn't recognise this). The card speaks of self-imposed boundaries and restrictions.

Have you guys seen the reversed Rider/Waite deck? It shows the cards from a different angle so the 5 Pentacles shows the inside rather than the outside of the church. I can never remember that deck name though? Do you know the one I'm talking about? I'll see if I can dig up a link.

posted January 24, 2005 01:35 AM         

Just a brief word...

The cards, like Astrology may be used and read on many levels, spiritual, emotional, psychological... to be sure. However, I think that the material level is also important, and in this sense I differ with most modern astrologers. Though I believe we can control our fate and all that happy, fluffy stuff...

I also believe that there are some very nasty things out there that can and do fall into peoples lives. The "negative" cards will accurately reflect those actual, physical, or material "negative" circumstances. How we choose to "deal with" those circumstances is most definitely under our control.. or "can be" if we are enlightened enough to work on making it so.

But... people lose their jobs, lose their homes, and lose loved ones.. all of which can and often does show up in a Tarot reading. We do our clients no service if we ignore the possibilities that these cards imply, and we have a unique ability to forewarn and therefor forearm them. This in no way means that we must scare the be-jeezus out of them. But a well chosen word or insight can often go a long way in helping them to face and deal with the possibilities of negative circumstances.

To say a card is misunderstood.. well that may or may not be the case, but I do believe that they accurately reflect circumstances on many and all levels. And also, let's face it... most shiny, happy people aren't the ones that are looking for a reading... it is the person in turmoil, or confusion who is seeking clarity and hope for a better future. I think it is our responsibility as readers to discuss the potentials and offer ways "around" some of the unpleasantness that "may occur if things are not changed before they reach this point".

I hope that makes sense, and I bid you Peace...

A

posted January 25, 2005 04:17 AM         

I did not mean to imply that only negative connotations must be given to a certain card.

Of course for each door that closes God opens another.

What I was talking about was simply that we cannot always overthink or psychologize the Tarot, as I believe that does a disservice to the inquiring mind.

When discussing the negative implications, there are always positive aspects or advice that may be given to alter or alleviate the negative outcomes. However, I think that we need to discuss all the possibilities with a client so that they may make an informed decision.

I am more than aware that one single change in the Path that a querent is following can totally negate any "prediction" that we make with Tarot, or Astrology for that matter. But in order to make that change, it is our job as readers to counsel them about the Path they are on and the possible consequences or rewards, so that they may use the information with wisdom and grace.

I hope that helps to clarify my meaning...

In the Light..
A

posted October 18, 2005 03:11 PM         

*&%@#!!* BUMP!