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Aya_and_baby
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posted September 08, 2011 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

To me it looks pretty clear-cut, especially with the stars inbetween the gentleman and the lady, the dog underneath the gentleman, the ring underneath the stars... When I do this spread, it's usually the near-far method, where the cards closest are interpreted as having most importance and the cards furthest having the least. I assume, because I gave my energy to them, the intention with which to read them, will probably stay the same although I am well aware that a lot of people use this spread for telling past and future

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posted September 08, 2011 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there are so many cards i just cant see clearly, can you post the names of cards, like they are laid out.

i will take a stab at them

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posted September 08, 2011 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is this general or was there any specific question?

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posted September 08, 2011 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question was: what's going on between me and that new guy?

Not sure if they're going to be the right names in English because I know them best in Dutch

Top to bottom, left to right:

1: keys - clovers - house - bear - moon - mice - book - birchrod
2: child - clouds - garden - cavalier - heart - coffin - sun - tower
3: tree - snake - ship - crossroads - fish - lily - fox - cross
4: letter - bouquet - birds - lady (moi) - stars - gentleman (him, of course) - stork - anchor
5: (under birds) scythe - (under lady) mountain - (under stars) ring - (under gentleman) dog


Hope that made sense Thanks for having a look!

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posted September 08, 2011 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In short, when I look at my surrounding cards, it suggests to me that I'm the one who has to work through some issues, while in reality he said he didn't know how to deal with my having a child. Interestingly, the stork could represent a move, which is something he has to do this weekend. Oddly enough.

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posted September 09, 2011 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok , I will just read it the way I do with mine

whats out of your control: a powerful message (bear+rider) which is followed by a decision.

Whats in your control: mountain, the blockages and obstacles are all under your control

Behind you: oldest past: scythe : did something suddenly happen. Since its in house of key, you found some sudden success

Older past: letter+bouquet+birds
A message from two ladies, or an invitation from a couple

Recent past: keys+clouds+ship
Some answers were revealed which made some trip/journey/movement doubtful

Future: farthest: Ring : well that’s really good for you
Farther: stars+man+stork+anchor
A dreamy/hopeful man, brings a stable/determined change in your life

Immediate future: fish + coffin + book

Some secret loss (probably financial) will come open. If you look at fish in terms of soul, then this could mean some way to heal the soul for a new beginning which you didn’t know as of yet

Looking at fate cards
Scythe + mountain = blockages being cut
Birds + lady = these blockages are probably because of some nervousness you have
Moon + mice = some stressful emotions

Those blockages which were your self-imposed , and were making you nervous , about certain kind of feelings are going to suddenly go away

Ring+ dog = dog is him
Stars+man = definitely him. There is something written in the stars

House+bear = I see him bringing lost of power and strength in your private life.

I hope this makes any sense to you. I’m a total wreck at interpreting these

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posted September 09, 2011 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Aries.

I just spent some time bawling my eyes out. Don't know what to make of him. In his eyes I see he wants to but his behaviour is just way too confusing. Plus, I have no idea why I am bawling my eyes out over a guy I've only just got to know.

If it is written in the stars I don't know what is going to happen but due to my past experiences I don't know how long I can handle this tip-toeing around each other.

For the past sudden success I'd have to say it's a no. I've not found success and what could be considered success (starting school again) was planned a long time beforehand, so it wasn't really sudden.

Not sure if the messages etc would apply to me, or the invitations. All I can say is that I did hit it off with this guy after an invitation from a girlfriend, but no couple, pretty much just her.

The fate cards do make sense. I don't see how I'm doing it entirely to myself though. I've not imagined that he has problems with the fact that I'm a mother to a toddler.


Sorry if I sound a bit incoherent or absent, I had quite a bad day and at the moment I'm cursing in the general direction of the Universe...

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posted September 13, 2011 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think the fox card near him is making him extra cautious. besides I don't know whether you consider it or not, but don't you think both man and woman cards are facing in opposite direction. the stars can represent longing too? so may be there is longing but there is nothing to talk about since both are facing opposite.

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posted September 13, 2011 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That could be something too. All I know is we're not communicating and for some reason it's actually breaking me down. I just can't get myself to call him and maybe he is extra cautious... I honestly don't know what to do anymore. Ridiculous as it sounds, I keep wishing and wishing he would call me or turn up at my doorstep again so we can talk. I'm just too terrified myself to call him.

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posted September 14, 2011 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Argh... The Universe is mocking me. I did another spread and this time the Gentleman and the Lady were right next to each other, looking at each other, and the ring above it.

Same spread. The Dog was still close to the Gentleman too.

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posted September 14, 2011 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i also see the ring connecting you both, but did you change the question? sometimes asking same question over and over also effects reading?

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posted September 15, 2011 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I changed the question ever so slightly: I asked what is going on between that guy and me NOW? As opposed to the situation when I did the first spread.

Generally, the cards around us were similar. Although, I was in the second row entirely to the right, Moon above me and Mice underneath me, and Gentleman to my left. He had Ring above him, Dog next to Ring, Fish to his left, Stars underneath Fish, and Tower underneath him. The Mice and the Tower look interesting there seeing the curremt situation. I'm experiencing a loss or a missing (true) because of his, pretty literal (don't think you can interpret Tower here as fame), isolation.

I'm usually very tempted to see the Moon as emotions, thanks to Astrology, but as I seem to remember it, it means other things too. But with his Ring next to it, and him being next to me, the cards paint a clear picture that for all intents and purposes, we are a couple.

I really wonder why he doesn't start acting like we are. Really, he's a Libra Sun, possibly with Libra Merc (could be Scorpio at the latest) and Libra is known to not be able to decide, but COME ON! Not even one kiss?

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posted September 15, 2011 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, but I have nothing useful to add - these cards are totally new to me. Are they Lenormand?

Just wanted to send hugs.. sounds like you're going through a rough time.

((((Aya))))

Sunshine
p.s. The Ring sounds like a great card to have in a reading.. Perhaps give it time - and it will ripen?

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posted September 15, 2011 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for that support, sunshine. Yes, they are Lenormand. The only kind of cards I use. The Ring there means a bond, sometimes a contract too, so in romantic terms it is good to have it so close to your personal cards.

It is strange that readings all seem to point to good things while in reality it seems to not go that way. That being said, there has been always that mention of obstacles, in the horary I put up as well as the cards I drew and the ones Aries did for me. It is hard on me. I don't even know why because I don't know this man for that long, I don't think I could say I'm in love, can I?

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posted September 16, 2011 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lets take a look at heart:

heart is in house of child, things are new and immature right now, in the house of heart is cross, creating lots of stress for you.in the house of cross is dog, so mey be trust and friendliness is an issue right now creating this stress.

in house of dog is snake, confirming the fact that this is the issue for you right now. trust,loyalty, friedliness, all the Dog things.

Using mirroring: heart + rider means you want some fast answer for this problem. you want quick romantic response. you want things to move fast.

the heart column: moon + heart + fish + stars

moon and fish both here represent longing, alongwith stars, it creating too much of wishing, hoping, creating a strong desire.
bear +moon = emotional strength is what will make things faster in terms of romance (rider +heart) and only then you can decide whether you want to go this way or that (roads+fish), and you can do this only by being hopeful (lady +stars).

ring under the stars also tell you want,hope for a stronger bond.

diagonals: bear +heart + lily +stork
i would say taking things slowly (lily represents rest) will change things(storks). you can use your own strength and power to make this happen.

heart + roads +birds;
both roads and birds represent two, or whatever is making you nervous about this relationship is a decision you have to take. roads are really close to you, and above you, out of your control, so whatever roads are representing, is really important.

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posted September 16, 2011 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
looking at ring column now:
i will take ring as a stronger bond, a comittment:

ring in house of anchor, so things are halted right now, standing stubbornly where they are. if you guys were already comitted then i would have said this is good, but right now i see that the strong bond aspect of relationship is yet grounded.the anchor to me sometimes represents putting things at a stop.

anchor is in house of moon, again grounding your emotions to a stop.
in house of ring is letter, so we can expect a message regrding this thing, but this is from your past, did any message/communication regarding ring already happened?
in house of letter is birds, again some message, excitement, nervousness.i just took a look and in house of birds is rider

whatever this message/communication is , its really important. rider is having heart next to it and birds have you, so i think, you guys discussed ring in past too

ring column: heart and ring are in same column, so i see that for you both are connected to each other. you really want this man, don't you ?

diagonals; key +clouds+ship +lady +ring
this relationship is really important to you. but i see you torn between two things, now m sure this is what the roads are pointing to
ship, freedom, independence, free floating
ring, a bond, a comittment, a cycle

clouds are making the answer (key) hard to reach you.

book +coffin + fish + lady +scythe

a secret end to a soul connection is making you aggressive? is this something from your past? but i see these cards in future placement. scythe is in house of key, so answer will be suddenly revelaed, fish in house of mountain, thsi connection is causeing stress, coffin in house of fox, house of threats, book in house of snakes, troubles.

using mirroring: mountains + ring are also pointing to blckages in this bond.
the fate line is however making me optimistic

scythe will cut at the mountains and ring will strengthen the trust and friendliness aspects of relationship

I think you should just concentrate more on having faith and letting things happen at their own pace.

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posted September 17, 2011 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aya_and_baby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you again Aries

I'm trying to place it in the timeline because the spread was laid some time ago for the then current situation. The nervousness was definitely an issue. As for the rest, I finally had a good talk with him, a lot makes more sense now. He apparently told most of his friends and probably his family about me, which is a sign that he's not playing around. Also he told me that in public he's just not affectionate, which explains last week (so it's just the way he is). Apparently he's apprehensive of making things serious because he pretty much wants to be entirely sure it's going to work (as do I, I've told him) and partly too because he doesn't know if he wants to give up his bachelor lifestyle. I told him all I need to know is how he feels, and I had an answer to that, I'll give him time but in the mean time he has mentioned that he expected me to call. You know, his cynism and negativism aside, I think we're much more alike than we both realize!

Anyway, soul connection? Could that be a long lasting friendship? I have just decided to end my friendship with someone because he is crazy in love with me, simply does not understand that I'm not attracted to him and that that is a basic requirement for me for a relationship. He was also passive agressive about this guy, saying "you know it won't work, don't you?" and then continuing on that he and I should get together. I have yet to tell this ex friend this, so that could be the secret ending.

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