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Love&Light
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posted June 16, 2014 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love&Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Your View of Your Partner
The Mountain

Your Partner's View of You
The Heart

Your Needs
The Child

Your Partner's Needs
The Ship

The Current State of Your Relationship
The Garden Forest

The Path You Would Like to See Your Relationship Follow
The Key

The Path Your Partner Would Like to See Your Relationship Follow
The Bear

Aspects of Your Relationship to Consider
The Mouse

The Outcome
The Letter

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posted June 17, 2014 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love&Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guys, even if the result is not a happy one please give an interpretation as it will help to make things clear. Thanks.

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posted June 18, 2014 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aren`t the cards in lenormand being read in combination, instead of as single cards?


Anyway, I am inexperienced, so bear with me, just giving it a try.


"Your View of Your Partner
The Mountain"
Do you feel like your partner erects some kind of barrier or obstacle betwen the two of you, that is difficult to be overcome? Is he stubborn in a way or very set in his ways?

"Your Partner's View of You
The Heart"
He views you as having your heart on your sleeve, being very open, and most of all affectionate and in love?


"Your Needs
The Child"
Are you hoping to have children with this man one day?

Or alternatively it could also mean a need for carefree childlike innocent joys.


Your Partner's Needs
The Ship"
Travel. Not standing still. Moving on. Maybe not from you or the relationship, but there is a need for further development.

"The Current State of Your Relationship
The Garden Forest"
Public.

Are you friends most of all?
The garden is all about enjoying leisure time with each other, but usually the festivities take place in public, or with other people around, so it could be that the relationship is either not yet an intimate one-on-one-romance, or that it needs social gatherings to bloom.


"The Path You Would Like to See Your Relationship Follow
The Key"
Probably to develop farther than it already has.
It`s like a mark that you WOULD like to see it develop but into what direction, I am not sure.

"The Path Your Partner Would Like to See Your Relationship Follow
The Bear"
Mmmh, into a mature relationship, with a strong foundation probably. However, the bear sometimes can also be over-bearing and highlight control-issues.


"Aspects of Your Relationship to Consider
The Mouse"
It seems that there is something nibbling away at the relationship. Worries or fears most probably.

"The Outcome
The Letter"
Hmm, maybe some form of written communication may take place. An email maybe even, maybe to talk about how this relationship should further develop.

Seems it is in the open yet, but I can`t help but feeling like you invest more into it emotionally as of nwo.


sorry if that is far off

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posted June 18, 2014 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love&Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Ceridwen. You are not at all off. In fact you were very correct. The Bear part is also correct. Both the parts of it. Only the Letter part I am not able to fathom. Since it is connected to the mouse could it mean that I could receive some bad news in this regard?What I am not able to understand is that whether it will be minor or major.

And yes ofcourse the cards are connected. Like a story on the lines of the questions asked. Thanks for the try.

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posted June 18, 2014 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am glad I wasn`t too far off.

Yes, the mice and the letter, interesting combination. I am not sure, maybe worrying about a certain news? Or a message getting lost (Mercury retrograde?).

It does`t feel like a final outcome to me though, more that news will reach you that probably push you further onto the path, what news?
I donīt know. Could have to do with the mice, yes, but maybe pull a clarifying card for the letter?

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posted June 18, 2014 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used your spread, too


our View of Your Partner
LILIES

Your Partner's View of You
HEART

Your Needs
MOON

Your Partner's Needs
WHIP

The Current State of Your Relationship
CROSS

The Path You Would Like to See Your Relationship Follow
HOUSE

The Path Your Partner Would Like to See Your Relationship Follow
ANCHOR

Aspects of Your Relationship to Consider
MAN

The Outcome
SUN

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posted June 18, 2014 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love&Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's great. You got a great Outcome. And you got a reading with lilies and heart etc, except for that whip part. Is he angry with you for some reasons and wants to take it out on you? Going through a difficult time in the relationship. Hardships and having to bear them. Is it correct? With the outcome showing that the end result of your efforts will be encouraging and positive. Some man either him or someone else is connected with all this trouble business?

Isn't this spread interesting. I am enjoying it actually. I will try one more. Just to see how it comes out. Getting experimental you see. Like solving algebra sums. He...he...

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posted June 19, 2014 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love&Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your View of Your Partner
The Bouquet signifies great luck. Take advantage of your current good fortune and remember to share.

Your Partner's View of You
The Trefoil indicates good luck will be yours. A business venture or relationship of yours is about to take a turn for the better.

Your Needs
The Stork indicates someone will be distancing themselves from you. While this may be for the better, you can regain their allegiance if you choose to.

Your Partner's Needs
The Child indicates you are surrounded by good people. Enjoy them and be thankful to be so blessed!

The Current State of Your Relationship
The Castle is a sign you will attain old age, and while you will experience setbacks like the rest of us your life will be a very fulfilling one.

The Path You Would Like to See Your Relationship Follow
The Lillies signify a happy life full of accomplishments and good deeds. Well done!

The Path Your Partner Would Like to See Your Relationship Follow
The Sun signifies good fortune will be yours. Remember to share your luck with those around you and those who helped you attain it.

Aspects of Your Relationship to Consider
The Cross represents minor occurences of bad luck.

The Outcome
The Dog indicates you have a true and lasting friendship to rely on. Besides good health, a true friend is life's greatest gift. Do not neglect this relationship.

I got this interpretation from a link. Here it is - www.e-tarocchi.com You will have to choose the relationship spread.

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posted June 19, 2014 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love&Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the relationship reading above I did a clarifier for the letter and got -
The Fox -indicates you are in trustworthy company. Now is a good time to move full bore towards your goals. You have the human resources to attain them.

But I thought Fox meant something cunning. May be I am not getting a communication like call or meeting from this person as he is being cunning? I am confused. I hope your 'going deeper' interpretation is what is true. Btw can I ask what made you think that way?

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posted June 19, 2014 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"n the relationship reading above I did a clarifier for the letter and got -
The Fox -indicates you are in trustworthy company."

Honestly, that doesn`t make sense to me. The fox is sneaky and often downright deceitful, but at least cunning, manipulative and knows a lot of tricks.
Maybe the letter modifies it, but then I would think that it might just bring the secret deceptions out in the open.

On the flip side though the fox is of course very smart and clever, and this might be positive for business-things.

In general though, I would think there might be a untrustworthy or false message being delivered, or on aiming to manipulate.


I looked up the combinations, and found these:

"Fox + letter (27): false message, job news"
"Letter + fox (14): job offer, letter at work, untrustworthy message"

http://learnlenormand.com/lenormand-letter-card-combinations/



"ay be I am not getting a communication like call or meeting from this person as he is being cunning?"
That could very well be I think. Something smells not right, and we have Mercury retrograde.

" Btw can I ask what made you think that way?"
About the letter as outcome? Or what do you mean?

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posted June 19, 2014 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Is he angry with you for some reasons and wants to take it out on you?"
That is an interesting thought. Maybe he actually *is* angry with me. Maybe I am readng too much into it, but it could be that my presence led him to say something that he now regrets, as I am sure his girlfriend was not amused. She did not look amused.

We are of course not in a relationship, there is hardly a connection at all.


" Going through a difficult time in the relationship. Hardships and having to bear them. Is it correct? "
Yes.

He is a local actor I have seen on stage some times over the last years. And now and then there seems to have been some sort of "connection", we also have exchanged a few words, but very rarely, over the course of the last 6 years or so. lol
Once he even addressed me in his show and was teasing me (but i was acting as if having a stick up my backside. lol)

I think I do have a crush on him. :sighs: But it all was very vague, despite the rare occasions of chatting, things were kept very vague and without admitting we "knew" each other. We would even be able to ignore each other and ban any kind of recognition, while standing right in front of each other.
It was SO weird.

Well, I admit that probably I was the one starting the elusive, evasive behaviour, but i just couldn`t wrap my head around that he really might recognize me, that i had left some kind of impression on him.

By now it is of course too late, him having a girlfriend who is highly pregnant.

What happened though is that not only the usual eye-contact happened last friday on his concert, but there was a certain scene that felt ultra-intense, because he was blatantly staring at me, to be honest. Though I always always always think of my perception as a delusional one and fantasy.

However shortly after that he started to really mess up things in his show, including forgetting to sing - in the middle of a song!.
He just fell silent, sat there, looking into my direction, and looked so reflecting (and not very happy). Luckily he would have had to sing only the refrain, so it did not ruin the song, but his duetpartner was a little surprised.
AFter that he also messed up various lines.

Now I would NEVER think of myself as having anything to do with it.

But after the break his colleague came with him on stage, and was glimpsing at his notepad. He usually claims to only write on there to remember to breathe. Which he apparently did that night, too.

But the colleagues suddenly started chuckling and saying he had to read that loud to the audience.
What he read out loud was that this actor had written that the lady in the 2nd row to the right side was driving him completely crazy,to the extent he totally messed up his lines before.

The audience laughed, I started to, until I realized that actually I was sitting on that seat.
Now of course it was a joke, but he was acting strangely. He didn`t laugh, and he kept his face averted, as if he wanted avoid looking at me (and his girlfriend who was sitting int he audience, too btw, and she wasn`t laughing either). And only at the end of the song, he was very quickly glimpsing at me, as if to check how I was reacting or something like that.

I do think, also with the look-exchange that had been going on on monday (I incidentally had seen him on an open air then, but there were more performers, too,), that I donīt know, if it was a mere joke, not meaning anything at all, he sure was reacting weirdly to it.
Of course it is still all very vague.


Anyway I did not talk to him afterwards (I would not have adressed this incidence, but rather would have just congratulated him on the show), for once because there were some fans waiting for autographs, and more importantly, I saw that his girlfriend was spotting me and immediately moving closer to where he was standing.
Uoh, I am realy not a threat. it was just *something* he sort of blurted out, maybe he did not even know himself WHY he wrote it down. So of course I left instantly.


WEll, I did want o leave some response though, so I left a short comment on his facebook page about enjoying the show. Nothing personal, just friendly-neutral, if he associates my face with my facebook picture, he would know it was me, and I hoped this comment showed, that first of all I was okay with that "joke" on friday. I just did not want to leave it without a total response, even though of course i responded to the whole show, as the nice person I am.
Well, to my surprise he actually liked my comment.
Before I got the impression that he only likes comments of people he knows personally, so that was a surprise, but a pleasant one, and maybe i am reading too much subtext where there is none, but to me this just spells: It`s alright.

The Sun as outcome is interesting, had that in the other spread, when I asked how he wants that connection to evolve, too. Sun as focal card (and when I asked tarot, Igot the Sun again). lol

For now I interprete that simply as the recognition that took place, mutually, and that at least for now we have left this vague, elusive, unspoken connection behind.

I suppose it means at least that he knows who I am or actually he really notices me when I show up, and it is not just my delusional thinking.


But of cours ethat is really all.

It also sucks, cause of course this had to take place, now that it is too late, right?


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posted June 19, 2014 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love&Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Ceri your narration was so lucid. Had me laughing over the incident upto the point where you realise that it was you.

Yes, I can well understand how you must feel. But to tell you the truth I am not comfortable with that WHIP in the reading regarding his needs. It could also have been that he looked at you as an anchor and could have created fights/arguments when you would have chosen to move around. Just my 2 cents. May be you could be better friends. I think the SUN as an outcome is better for that? Are you into some kind of job where you have to move around. A demanding one or not the one in a typical routine? Is his girlfriend working and if yes then in a fixed routine. These things could give you some clue.

And Thanks for your interpretation on the Fox. It also just clicked to me that Fox also could mean smartness like in being wise. Because for the same question clarifier I got 7 of pents in tarot. So could it be that he is waiting for the right time. And the mice could indicate the losses which I am experiencing emotion wise having not received any communication. Could be. Hhmmm.....Anyways time will tell and then I will come back here and post. Provided I find the thread.

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posted June 19, 2014 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"But to tell you the truth I am not comfortable with that WHIP in the reading regarding his needs."
Oh I am very comfortable with that. As a matter of fact it made me laugh to myself, when I saw this.

He wasn`t angry with me because I was distracting him by being all restless, cause Iw asn`t. Just sitting calmly there, and enjoying the show as always.

However I am pretty sure I know what the WHIP in this context means, one part of the answer is that he needs more straightforwardness, even if it might a bit argumentative.


No I am not in a job, moving around. Though I like to undertake short trips, mostly to see musicals and concerts and theatre. My eprsonal time-out from my job. Not just things he is doing, but in general.
I donīt think hsi girlfriend is currently employed.

He is moving around a lot of course.


The Sun as outcome, tells me that whatever this connection is about, it will be good and result in greater clarity. That is really all for now.

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