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Ceridwen
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posted August 30, 2014 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as for how someone is thinking about me.
(I am using the spread where I consider the first card the theme/ key card, and the other ones as giving additional informations in relation to the first card, how, why, when and so on).

So my first thought was:
Emotionally, yet trying to be more rational and balanced about it?


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VenusDiSirius
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posted August 30, 2014 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Using VDS™ method, I see.

In my reads, The Fool is (when it doesn't represent a person) always a folly, both of good and bad kind.

Regardless of the context, I'd say they are trying to reign it in, their impression of you.

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posted August 30, 2014 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Using VDS™ method, I see. "
Lol
You converted me.


"In my reads, The Fool is (when it doesn't represent a person) always a folly, both of good and bad kind. "
Interesting. Yes, I can see that. Though for me it usually just represents something unexpected, new and impulsive.

So summarizing, a possible folly.

"Regardless of the context, I'd say they are trying to reign it in, their impression of you."
Yes, that makes a lot of sense.

I wonder though why he does these things. I mean he must know that this might lead to a rather tensed athmosphere at home.

His signifcant other was not very amused when he commented on me making him crazy, some weeks ago, and I suppose, coming down from stage last saturday, approaching me and asking for my name and mentioning that he already knew as we knew each other (oh really? That was a bit of a newsflash for me. ), and just basically keep on staying in my proximity, and then keep on staring at me for a while longer, even while on stage again.

I mean, of course it is all fun and games, but as I said she wasn`t amused the first time around, and she probably wasn`t very much amused when he was doing it again, and with the same visitor, me. It is not like there were no othe rpeople in hte audience, even though lately sometimes it seems the audience consists of mostly - me. LOL

But seriously, he must have known that this was not very considerate of his wife`s (or whatever she is - mother of his child at least) feelings, and possibly leading to some tensed moments between them.


Well, I concluded that from, a few minutes later, hearing her voice, which could have frozen over hell so icy it sounded, when she was very distinctly telling him from the background that he was being "disgusting".
Not really in relation to talking to me, it was some other situation, but boy, for a few seconds right there the temperature dropped to arctic degrees. It seemed totally out of proportion, too, at least considering the situation then.

But seriously. I am trying to keep a little sane reasonable control (and it is difficult), especially considering that he is unavailable. But he makes it REALLY difficult. Why is he creating situations like that?
Noone pushed him to come down to me and involve me in a short chat, right?

And yes, coincidence, possibly. But this is about the 4th or 5th coincidence like that, during a show I mean. He could have asked somebody else. WEll he did so, too. But apparently liked staying around me more and longer than was called for. And just basically managed to show up in my proximity repeatedly that night. Why?


Sometimes it feels like we are both looking at this red alert button and say: "Oh you see that red button over there with the writing on it telling to NOT touch? Lets just push it and see what happens."


Two sagittarians in proximity of each other with a certain intrigue/ fascination for each other - not.a.sane.idea.


I am REALLY trying. But he just, I don´t know. Does this man ever think before he acts?


EDIT

I just remembered I have a Sun-Mercury-conjunction and he has a Sun-Moon-conjunction.
I suppose that answers my last question. Nope. Never thinks. Just follows an impulse. lol

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posted August 31, 2014 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, Mr. Sag.

OK, now I think Justice could refer to post-festum rationalisations, reprimands and repercussions. Trying to see things clearly. Action in order to get something concrete out of you.

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posted September 01, 2014 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri I DID NOT know that happened between you two!!!! Holy smokes!!! Progress!! I feel progress!!! I'm not going to interpret the spread but I WILL say this: he is very much aware of this strong connection between you two now...so strong that it throws all practicality out the window...it's almost like the soul/subconscious is directing Him....Cusp used to do this all the time with me. The expression on his wife's face was cold as ice. Point is, I do believe after experiencing this myself, it's not about disrespecting his wife (pushing her buttons) the pull is just that strong to initiate something...anything...and it's probably getting stronger. My gut tells me more of this is coming....

5 occurrences does not equal coincidence

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posted September 03, 2014 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Ah, Mr. Sag.

OK, now I think Justice could refer to post-festum rationalisations, reprimands and repercussions. Trying to see things clearly. Action in order to get something concrete out of you.


Well, not sure about the last part, though maybe after asking me my name he was expecting me to show up after the show to talk to him, which did not even cross my mind that night.

Maybe next time.


I could see the first part of your interpretation though.

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posted September 03, 2014 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T-Gem,

lol
#I loved your reaction.


" he is very much aware of this strong connection between you two now...so strong that it throws all practicality out the window..."
It seems so, yes, and definiteyl it was a most unpractical thing to do.


"the pull is just that strong to initiate something...anything.."
That is the feeling I got, too. though it is also .... irrational, not reasonable.

And in a way I feel guilty (towards his wife), and I did not even DO anything. lol

It`s also something I am simply not used to, neither been seen as possible competition (?) nor being so much in the centre of someone`s attention and feeling like he is (at least mildly) attracted to me.
It`s something that I don´t have a "game plan" in terms of how to deal with it, because I never really HAD to deal with it.
Well in those rare cases someone seemed interested in me, I was CLEARLY disinterested in them, which is something I can`t say in this case.
Of course I don`t know what his interest in me really is, or if it is even real.
All I can say and be sure about is how he acted, and it was just, well, I surely felt quite much on display. lol

I am good in selfdenial (out of fear to delude myself actually, but even with that in mind, those last incidences felt definitely out of the ordinary. Not just for me. But it seems for him as well.

Well one thing is sure, I for once can`t shake him off that easily, he`s gotten under my skin, under my defenses, and now I have to find a way to deal with it somehow.

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posted September 04, 2014 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, I'm curious, have you considered not attending his shows? Or at least staying for the show only and leaving once it's done?

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posted September 04, 2014 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I may.

He is thinking about you, that's for sure.

How is he thinking about you?

Like a fool.

You make him feel good, childlike even. You make him happy,carefree,enjoying the moment.

Justice though is a difficult card to decipher sometimes.This could be just that,thoughts of you,thoughts that fill his head,thoughts of tender innocent love but will he act? will he make an effort to consolidate those thoughts into actions??

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posted September 06, 2014 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by littlecloud:
Ceri, I'm curious, have you considered not attending his shows? Or at least staying for the show only and leaving once it's done?

LC,

for the first part, yes, I actually have some tickets lying around for concerts I never even went to. lol
But truth is enjoy going there too much, and I am selfish enough to want to indulge myself.

As for the other part of the question. That is how I usually do it.
I never (well except for 2 occasions in the last years, and we are talking YEARS) stay after the show, I always leave immediately, and did so, too, on the last occasion.
In a way I suppose the only way to approach me for him is DURING a show, cause I am always gone afterwards. lol

But seriously I am not lining up for talking to someone. And I am neither interested in his autograph nor taking pictures with him. So if I don`t have anything to say (like asking for his birthtime), I don´t stick around. Doing that was actually highly uncharacteristic of me anyway.

But so, yes, I pretty much always do it as you suggested, leaving immediately, sometimes so quickly that bystanders could get the impression I am all but RUNNING away. Which is of course not true, right?


EDIT:
Of course I stayed last november, but that was because I was at this backstage event with a lot of other people, and had been talking to most of the actors and other guests being there (not him though), and it was just a nice interesting night, but then I also thought that it was silly to NOT at least say `Hello` to him; after all he had been seeing me talking to pretty much everyone else (so yes I CAN talk. lol), and I know he did, cause he was standing not even 2 metres in my back for almost the whole time, until he decided to leave, which pretty much coincided with my decision to leave.
And then I thought that this was just silly, foolish and immature, this weird non-dance, so I DID approach him to tell him I liked the show despite all its setbacks and troubles, which were IMMENSE, and we exchanged a few meaningless words, before I turned around and left. I didn`t talk to him long, but I wanted to let him know, he had done a good job - he was also directing the show, and had taken over just a short time before the premiere, and well as I said, this tour was a whole fiasko on many levels and I was really impressed how much he and the others managed to keep the boat floating, as much as possible.

But anyway that was only the 2nd time I was staying after the show.
It seems to have changed something though. Even though it was just such a small insignificant thing to do.
But it changed the mode of interaction somehow.


But other than on these two occasions, no, no staying after the show for me. As I said, I am not really into all that fan-stuff.

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posted September 06, 2014 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jessica2407:
If I may.

He is thinking about you, that's for sure.

How is he thinking about you?

Like a fool.

You make him feel good, childlike even. You make him happy,carefree,enjoying the moment.

Justice though is a difficult card to decipher sometimes.This could be just that,thoughts of you,thoughts that fill his head,thoughts of tender innocent love but will he act? will he make an effort to consolidate those thoughts into actions??



Thank you. Actually that is what came closest to my own interpretation of the cards, and as for action. No he won`t or can`t do anything, as well, he is not available.
That is why I was so surprised he would single me out again. It did not seem... reasonable.

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