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hannaramaa
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posted October 17, 2014 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't need an interpretation on the whole thing! Just had a few questions.

Whip — Woman -Sun — Fish — House — Lillies — Road — Mice
Heart — Ring — Star –Letter — Dog — Clover — Fox — Cross
Anchor -Man– Key — Rider — Garden — Bear — Book — Tower
Mountain — Tree — Ship — Moon — Clouds — Snake — Bird — Coffin
————————-Bouquet–Stork–Child–Scythe

Do the rest of the cards matter if the ones you care about are in a nice little cluster?

Would you think The Star being diagonally connected to The Man and Woman simply indicates the wish for all those things surrounding him/them?

3. A shout out to DM - it's funny how we both drew Tableus and got Woman Ring Man!

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posted October 17, 2014 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh I'm reading interpretations on Cross + Tower, Mice + Cross, etc. Nevermind about the awesome beginning because Clover + Fox looks like it's going to suck anyway.

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posted October 17, 2014 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What did you ask, exactly?

I sometimes disregard cards that are too far away from me, they sometimes don't affect me directly.

EDIT: I gotta ask say though, the four corners of the spread are pretty sh!tty. But I take them as telling me what the person is asking about, what made them ask/do a spread. It seems pretty dire and I am sorry for that - but the Coffin at the end is not so bad, it means the difficulties are going to end.

Re the Star, idk what to say, it is technically beneath you and you have control over it because you're on top of it. It is a wish, but one you can fulfill, IMO.

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posted October 17, 2014 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like your configuration better! At least you control the man, I leave him behind! That always puzzled me about Lenormands, if he's becoming a part of my past, how come I'm in his future?

At least you have him in your present. That is nice.

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posted October 17, 2014 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I like your configuration better! At least you control the man, I leave him behind! That always puzzled me about Lenormands, if he's becoming a part of my past, how come I'm in his future?

At least you have him in your present. That is nice.


I didn't ask anything when I drew this, I just did it thinking it could be read generally like Tarot is. Can it not? And oh now that you mentioned it the 4 corners are kind of poo. Where did you learn to read Lenormand? I have Sylvie Steinbeck's book somewhere but get too excited and just start reading all the combinations. I never read in-depth about it, let alone finding one online that answers all my questions.

I also don't know if each row stands for something, and what is considered near or far regarding Lenormand. Like is 2 cards over considered "far" or what?

And like I said in the horary thread - I don't have a boyfriend so really there's no man in my present. The Lenormand LIES!

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posted October 17, 2014 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It can be read in general, sure. I have that book too! Ordered it online, read it in like half an hour lol. My first Lenormand book is by some Romanian witch or something, and I think it's pretty good, it's my go-to book, usually. I've also looked at some tutorials online and on youtube.

From what I know, the closer the cards are to you, the more influence they have in your life. The ones further away might not even be about you at all. It has happened to me, I told you in the other thread, I kept getting life threatening events (Tree+Coffin+Scythe in some combinations, other times one was missing and Cross came up) - turns out one of my friends' parents were in a deadly bus crash and were hospitalized for weeks. She called me to tell me about it and ask for my help with something. But it didn't involve me, physically. I don't know if your cards do that to you, mine are cheeky like that, because I was actually asking about my exam! It had nothing to do with it, but the cards had to warn me..

There was one site that I thought was pretty good, I learned the rule of knighting from it, and I always find it very, very revealing. Lemme see if I can find it.
http://learnlenormand.com/reading-lenormand-grand-tableau-2/

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posted October 18, 2014 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would you (or anyone?) make of Fish + Letter + Rider + Ship?

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posted October 18, 2014 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And when deciphering a GT is it okay to start with a "bundle" of cards, or is it expected to interpret each strand?

When I first read this I just thought it made sense to start with the square of 9 cards (width-wise from Whip to Sun) but am unsure since we also need to incorporate Sun and Fish, etc.

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posted October 18, 2014 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That fish-letter etc looks like a chat about money regarding a trip?

In regards to love it may be many suitors with possibly talk about going out.

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posted October 18, 2014 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That fish-letter etc looks like a chat about money regarding a trip?

In regards to love it may be many suitors with possibly talk about going out.


Thanks LC. That Fish-Letter etc would make sense with that Taurus girl I told you about! Maybe that's why the Whip showed up because she's bossy af.

If I suddenly have more than one suitor AND they're discussing taking me out I will definitely let you know! That'd be so exciting. Or would it...

In regards to where The Star fell, would you say it has to fall BEHIND the querent to represent their hopes / dreams, or does it matter? I'm trying to tell if this is forecasting a great relationship coming my way or if it's reflecting my wish for one (even if it's in front.) I can't remember if I asked that or not initially.

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posted October 18, 2014 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Star-letter looks like email exchanges...

Could it also be fate? "It was in the stars"?

Hmm...it's hard to say, if Child was around that would be more of an indication for childish hopes and such. It may depend on your perception as well. I'm no expert at Lenormand but I try to read them literally as this is usually how they present themselves to me.

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posted October 18, 2014 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I am down for a fairy tale romance any day.

You know what actually scares me out of the whole thing is Child + Scythe. I read somewhere that indicates an abortion, so I'm like O-O.

I didn't ask a question when I drew the table, is that bad and should I re-do it asking a question then?

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posted October 19, 2014 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you have a mental focus of anything? If not then take it as a general reading and child-scythe could indicate a miscarriage. In either circumstance the pregnancy is ended quickly in some way. Women can induce miscarriages which in a way could be a surgery of some sort.

From my understanding a GT is read as a whole taking the entire string/row as well the columns. Then the corners and other details I don't know because at that point my head is swimming.

Im too cynical to belive in fairly tale romances. For me it's about the long haul, how much lasting power do you have? I suppose it's why I relate to the Queen of Disks from my other spread/deck.

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posted October 19, 2014 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I completely agree! The long-haul for me IS a fairy tale romance assuming the person is right, you know? At least the Anchor was in the beginning near the Man so whomever will be pretty stable and all that jazz.

It bugs me not to have known I was supposed to ask a question so I guess I'll re-do it. It's too vague otherwise even though I know it's kind of "cheating". I didn't have any sort of focus when I drew it I just wondered what would come out.

Oh, and will definitely start smaller!!! You're right that's why I didn't try to interpret everything fairly before asking for help here because 8 X 4 + 4 is just too much for me.

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posted October 19, 2014 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Start with simple 3x3. Also possibly do a separate one for the Taurus girl. I know it feels like cheating but possibly consider it a follow up question of focus. In everyday life when our energies are scattered so are our results, readings can be similar.

I emailed you back by the way. (I think it sent)

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posted October 19, 2014 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got it! What deck were you using in the first picture? I'll probably reply in-depth tomorrow but I wanted to let you know I received it.

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posted October 19, 2014 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Intuitive tarot. It's the first one I ever got and have used most. Feels like an old friend in my hands.

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posted October 19, 2014 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That fish-letter etc looks like a chat about money regarding a trip?


That's what I thought too.

Hey Hanna, the Child-Scythe might not be about you, it is too far away. I know it's in your fate line but it can happen to someone else, a friend, a sister, who knows. The only cards that affect you directly are the ones immediately in your proximity, the ones on the same row and column as you, the diagonals and the knightings. The rest.. you could just hear about it, ESPECIALLY since you didn't ask a question. So don't worry too much about it.

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posted October 23, 2014 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I did another Grand Tableu, this time asking "When will I be in another relationship?" and I got Woman Heart Man on the 4th row of cards. Does that mean it is far away?

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posted October 23, 2014 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope. It's in the immediate future.

Hanna, are you sure you didn't meet someone recently? I am still surprised of that Man in your present in your first GT.

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posted October 23, 2014 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I promise! The only guys around me are off-limits. I've been more concerned about me lately than meeting anyone.

So how does timing work in a Grand Tableu then if the fourth row (the one before the 4 cards) is the immediate future?

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posted October 23, 2014 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And is the Snake always bad?

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posted October 25, 2014 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, the Snake can also stand for seduction, in which case it's not too bad.

I am not really sure about timing in GT, it all relates to how far the cards are to the significator, not their actual position in the GT.


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