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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 30, 2014 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Coffin----Mice----Tree----Child----Garden---Clouds---Cross---Sun
Roads---Birds---Tower---Stork---Snake-----Ring------Man----Stars
Fish----Bear-----Anchor---Clover----Rider----Lilly------Letter-----Fox
Book---Ship-----Heart----Whip---Flowers----Woman--Moon----Scythe
-----------------------Key----House----Mountain----Dog-------------

The question was:

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If there is a true relationship between the fictional concept to whom I was introduced in 2001, who I know as Penderan Fauste, and the man I met in 2010, who I know as my Guardian Soulmate, partner, and costar.

Most specifically, if the bizarre coincidences and eerie experiences are the result of a multidimensional connexion; if the creation of that character and story was part of a 'metaphysical insurance plan' to guarantee that when we did meet, nearly a decade later, I'd 'recognise' him immediately -- if just due to the uncanny resemblance to that character.



I need some coffee to interpret, but I think I captured the situation right - the Key is in its own house. And the story is already unfolding before my eyes. Hold on.

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posted October 30, 2014 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The bolded cards are the main participants.

The Man = your Guardian
The Woman = you
Rider = Penderan (Rider is often a substitute for the Man, how about that..)
Stork = Alice


As you can see, they are ALL connected. You are knighting your Guardian - this is a mutual link because he's also knighting you. Knighting is a powerful connection, even though it is less obvious. Your Guardian is knighting the Rider-Penderan, which happens to be in the past -> everything to the left of the Man and Woman is in the past; the 2 columns in which you two are, are your present situations, everything to your right is your future. Notice he is slightly to your right, so yes, I do believe he is going to continue to be present in your life. Ok, so back to the links between you. If you look at the upper left diagonal from the Woman (you), you will find Rider and Stork. Alice and Penderan, in your immediate past.

I was blown away because in GTs you look at a 2x2 block of cards that is right in the center of the spread, to find the heart of the matter:
Stork(Alice)-Snake(betrayal)-Clover(luck; fortune)-Rider(Penderan).

I wondered about the Clover. I will need to ponder on it, but my instinct is Penderan was successful because of circumstance, mostly.


Another technique in GT is to take the 4 corners of the spread to show "the frame of the situation":
Coffin(illness, ending, death)-Sun(success; it can stand for rebirth)-Book(secrets, also manuscript )-Scythe(decisiveness, cut)

How did Alice die? Was she stabbed? In any case - I take Scythe there to mean an end to the secrets and confusion.


The last group that is pre-set for interpretation is the short line at the bottom, "the fate line":

Key(solution, success, divine intervention)-House(family, intimacy, comfort)-Mountain(obstacle, delay, denial)-Dog(trust, life companion)

Tell me if this doesn't blow your mind! I'm a little shocked myself. I'm reading from Sylvie Steinbach's book for additional meanings of each card (aside from what I am used to). I am going to post the description of each card on the Fate line.

The Key opens the door to life's mysteries. The card brings answers, solutions and success as it foretells that a major event is about to take place, maybe a twist of fate, an unexpected resolution to a difficult situation. This card is destiny at play and divine intervention into your life: pays attention to signs, clues and signals preceding the materialization of a wish or a miracle. The Key wants to teach you about life's meanings and karmic lessons. It encompasses all the spiritual forces influencing our lives"

"The House is the home that you live in, the family that you have created or you are coming from. The card symbolizes all domestic affairs, the intimate life hiding behind closed doors. In addition, it refers to real estate dealings and physical property, like your current address. Small and medium companies, home businesses and family owned enterprises appear through this symbol. The House is a stable card, a sign of refuge and comfort."

"The Mountain announces delays, stalled situations, obstacles that will slow down any enterprise. The card has a cold and distant effect on relationships creating walls in communication leading to rejection or indifference. It is quiet, silent and the only thing left is either waiting patiently or finding another way around the mountain. The symbol can predict a refusal or a state of denial. Sometimes it warns of an enemy, a danger, an insurmountable situation. This is the predator card."

"The Dog is a friend, a person you can trust. It usually refers to someone you know quite well or someone you just met once. The card adds reliability, closeness and faithfulness in love relationships. Linked with intimacy and habits, the Dog tells you that you can trust this connection. This symbol is the life companion you have been longing for."

I am a little speechless.. I have very little doubt that the answer is YES, and not just a simple yes, but HELL YES!

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Dancing Maenad
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posted October 30, 2014 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To unfold the story we will need to look at the cards surrounding the main "actors" and interpret them two by two, and then together.

I am going to need help here, as this might be where I mess it up. I will also need a break from this to look at it with fresh eyes later. I am grateful that I didn't mess up so far, I am very cautious now after doing a few bad readings in the recent past. I even asked for permission from the cards to read. I think it would be great if you could also participate, Auby, because it is ultimately YOUR story and it is likely that the message of the cards is one only you can fully comprehend.

This is a link to card meanings. And THIS is a list of possible card combinations, which is the "secret" of Lenormand and its accuracy. It's how you tell the story. You always use the order of the cards.

For example, for our fate line, we must study these combinations:

Key + house (4): important family, literally key to a house

House + mountain (21): house in the mountains, problems purchasing a house

Mountain + dog (18): single friend, loneliness, abandoned dog


Hmm.. though I kinda think this link I provided is kinda rubbish for combinations. Well, I have 3 other different sources, so we should get to the bottom of it eventually.


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posted October 30, 2014 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, DM. I'm going to process this.

Can you tell me more about the Scythe in the future position after Moon?

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posted October 30, 2014 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Thank you, DM. I'm going to process this.

Can you tell me more about the Scythe in the future position after Moon?


Moon+Scythe can mean end of confusions or sudden difficulties from source 1. Source 2 also says end of illusions/confusions, while Sylvie's book says "break-up, separation, emotional rejection".

I myself thought end of confusion when I saw it..

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posted October 30, 2014 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Moon+Scythe can mean end of confusions or sudden difficulties from source 1. Source 2 also says end of illusions/confusions, while Sylvie's book says "break-up, separation, emotional rejection".

I myself thought end of confusion when I saw it..


Okay. Thank you for that. I know nothing of this method, and the meanings of that card were ominous in a future position. In the PAST, it makes eerie sense. In the FUTURE --- that's a bit disturbing. Accidents, surgeries and ending relationships, from what I got.

But then I wasn't sure how it combined with Moon. Curious, since Scythe seems to be logical and emotionless; to be combined with Moon. How contrary.

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posted October 30, 2014 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is in your personal future, though your Guardian is knighting the Scythe also. I always see Scythe as a trenchant event/action, it cuts through any BS, it can be a clarifying card for the Moon.

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posted October 30, 2014 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay. I've read a little bit more on all of this, and have the following questions.

What does the Knighting relationship mean specifically? I've read it can show hidden motivations, preoccupations and connexions. Also, which card did you select for Knighting?

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posted October 30, 2014 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I've just been caught up.

Thanks, DM, for everything, and best of luck with your exams! I know you won't see this (except, maybe to pop on for just a moment) until mid-November -- but I wanted to say I'm sending good vibes your way for concentration and clarity. It ain't luck -- it's skill!

I'll do some of my own reflection and research in the meanwhile.

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posted October 30, 2014 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for understanding, Auby, and I am sorry I can't help more. I need to detach a bit from this, from him, from charts.

Knight the main players, as well as significant cards to the question - Key, Book, Cross, perhaps Coffin too. Tree is the multi/transdimensional link in my opinion. That too. Also combine them in diagonals. It's going to be a lot of info, GTs can be overwhelming.

Hope it brings you the answers you sought. See you guys soon!

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posted October 31, 2014 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been thinking about your Moon-Scythe and I think we are forgetting something here. We're disconnecting them from the Woman card and you must always link cards one by one/ in group, if you can. I think it stands for your identification to the fictional dimension, as well as being/living in the past. I have no doubt that the Scythe here is positive and perhaps this is what it means. It is time to put the past behind and the fiction on its shelf. Your Guardian is not Penderan. He may have been at some point - and time may not be linear as we know it - but you cannot deny him of his progress and personal evolution. He has grown and would never be Penderan, again. You need to let it go, because if you don't, this [i]might[/] cause a rupture of some sort. I know you don't want that. I know you needed answers and clarity and I can fully empathise with that. I think you must have always known the truth. But it's time to stop living in the past, Time Lord. You're missing out on the present. It is all that matters, anyway.

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posted October 31, 2014 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been thinking about your Moon-Scythe and I think we are forgetting something here. We're disconnecting them from the Woman card and you must always link cards one by one/ in group, if you can. I think it stands for your identification to the fictional dimension, as well as being/living in the past. I have no doubt that the Scythe here is positive and perhaps this is what it means. It is time to put the past behind and the fiction on its shelf. Your Guardian is not Penderan. He may have been at some point - and time may not be linear as we know it - but you cannot deny him of his progress and personal evolution. He has grown and would never be Penderan, again. You need to let it go, because if you don't, this [i]might[/] cause a rupture of some sort. I know you don't want that. I know you needed answers and clarity and I can fully empathise with that. I think you must have always known the truth. But it's time to stop living in the past, Time Lord. You're missing out on the present. It is all that matters, anyway.

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posted October 31, 2014 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I've been thinking about your Moon-Scythe and I think we are forgetting something here. We're disconnecting them from the Woman card and you must always link cards one by one/ in group, if you can. I think it stands for your identification to the fictional dimension, as well as being/living in the past. I have no doubt that the Scythe here is positive and perhaps this is what it means. It is time to put the past behind and the fiction on its shelf. Your Guardian is not Penderan. He may have been at some point - and time may not be linear as we know it - but you cannot deny him of his progress and personal evolution. He has grown and would never be Penderan, again. You need to let it go, because if you don't, this [i]might[/] cause a rupture of some sort. I know you don't want that. I know you needed answers and clarity and I can fully empathise with that. I think you must have always known the truth. But it's time to stop living in the past, Time Lord. You're missing out on the present. It is all that matters, anyway.


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posted November 13, 2014 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I've been thinking about your Moon-Scythe and I think we are forgetting something here. We're disconnecting them from the Woman card and you must always link cards one by one/ in group, if you can. I think it stands for your identification to the fictional dimension, as well as being/living in the past. I have no doubt that the Scythe here is positive and perhaps this is what it means. It is time to put the past behind and the fiction on its shelf. Your Guardian is not Penderan. He may have been at some point - and time may not be linear as we know it - but you cannot deny him of his progress and personal evolution. He has grown and would never be Penderan, again. You need to let it go, because if you don't, this [i]might[/] cause a rupture of some sort. I know you don't want that. I know you needed answers and clarity and I can fully empathise with that. I think you must have always known the truth. But it's time to stop living in the past, Time Lord. You're missing out on the present. It is all that matters, anyway.


I JUST saw this, DM. I'm not sure how it was lost in the shuffle with everything else; perhaps I really intended not to revisit it until you were through with your exams? At any rate. Thank you. Thank you for this.

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posted November 14, 2014 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes! I am done!!! I am a specialist!

I am glad it helped, I will be around more soon (need to sleep a couple of days and get drunk lol), so let me know if you have questions.

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posted November 14, 2014 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CONGRATULATIONS

I am so proud of you (though I knew you would make it)

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posted November 14, 2014 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Yes! I am done!!! I am a specialist!

I am glad it helped, I will be around more soon (need to sleep a couple of days and get drunk lol), so let me know if you have questions.



Congratulations, Dancing Maenad!!!!!
I didn't contribute much, but I feel so proud of you hahahaha

Well done!

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posted November 14, 2014 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, ladies!

It was a hellish experience, and I am so happy and relieved just to be over with it. The pressure was unbearable.

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posted November 17, 2014 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Yes! I am done!!! I am a specialist!


Knew it. Congratulations, DM!

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posted November 17, 2014 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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... so let me know if you have questions.

I do. In fact, I had a bizarre experience this morning. Since the eclipse, I've been feeling crazy. Like Donnie Darko crazy. Like there is something I have to do and damn it, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS! crazy. I've slowly, but surely, shut down emotionally and disconnected from everyone. I'm inexplicably, and completely unnecessarily suspicious and afraid of my partner (Guardian), even as he's doing EVERYTHING he can to help me -- down to deciding, flat out, to be my Dominant so that I can finally feel that I'm safe enough to lose control. WOW.

This man is phenomenal. WHY AM I SO TERRIFIED?

So, this morning, as my series development partner begins telling us his thoughts on Chris Nolan's latest 'Interstellar', and I chat some quantum physics with him from my studies, I notice The Bootstrap Paradox is linked from the film's Wikipedia page.

If you aren't familiar, here's the link.

There's one phrase with became immediately clear to me; something that my Twin and I were obsessing over when developing our own series in 2012.

CLOSING THE LOOP.

Those words bring me a profound sense of happiness. Those three words are a sense of salvation to me. A knowledge everything is going to be all right. I can overcome the fear. I can feel SANE again.

ALL of that -- from those three words.

... WTF?

Bear in mind, karmic loops are not the same as time loops. But then I can't even tell exactly which I'm in. I do know that everyone unconsciously does 'their part' to help me reach my destination.

And I do mean everyone.

My husband asks me what's wrong, I find every way to avoid telling him EXACTLY what's wrong, settling on 'existential crisis' and revealing it DOES have to do with The Blue Sky Memory, and Hunting Alice, and my reaching a critical mass of weirdness and unsure of how to process anything any more. I have a decent cry, feel a little better, just getting some of it off of my chest.

We go downstairs to rejoin the Kiddo, who's watching a video on how the Super Mario (a very popular decades-long gaming franchise) universe is actually multidimensional.

I feel that sudden sense of 'Yes,' wash over me. Like the tide is coming in, and all I can do is be ready for it. In every dream I've had, I'm facing some obstacle -- usually a great storm. And for the first time in my life, I'm able to HOLD IT OFF. MYSELF. Or, at the very least, go into it, UNSCATHED.

Last night, I 'learnt' something about my Guardian which was problematic and involved his legitimate sanity. I recall stating to my husband, (who was also present, wherever we were) that his endearing quirks are hiding a more troublesome condition he's only now been honest with me about.

But damned if I can remember what it was. A level of psychosis. A degree of losing sense of where he was, and being very unanchored in time and space.

I know, it sounds ridiculous -- but this is more of a strange worst-case-scenario of what's going on here. You often get the sense from him that he's not tracking things properly, and simply overcompensates with joviality and a theatrical personality.

It was the way that Penderan hid his own condition in my novel Phantomwise.

I don't like this sense of a ticking clock ....

What can I do, DM? Why am I so enamoured and liberated by this notion of 'closing the loop'? And WHAT loop, pray-tell, am I suppose to be closing, oh, dear Higher Mind of mine?

Apologies for the sarcasm there. I get a bit ... overwrought with it all.

I told you we lost time on 2 November, from 21:00 to 21:01, hadn't I?

I hate to say this, but when THAT happened, the mindboggling experience of, ' ... wait, it's ONLY X:XX?' suddenly made sense to me.

My sense of time is bizarrely on-point. I can go for hours without looking at a clock, and I know EXACTLY what time it is. Down to the minute. Some joke I'm 'a human timepiece'.

When he'd tell me what time it is, and I'd witness it for myself, I'd think, 'oh, it must be the faux time-dilation that results from emotional perception'. But this would not have been happening EVERY TIME. And I was very, very aware of it for several of them.

But I hadn't actually SEEN it, for myself until 2 November.

I'm STILL processing that.

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posted November 18, 2014 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think it might be the Scythe? Though that would fit more with "Cutting the loop", rather than closing it. I still think you need to separate him from Penderan because, if LeeLoo's take on time lines is the correct way to read GTs, then you're facing Mountain on the Fate Line and that would mean you'll reach a stalemate, a blockage. I understand it must be hard, but please make an effort.

I've been going through some weird emotional stuff too, and your almost astro twin is behaving weird also. I'll be damned if I understand anything anymore.

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posted November 18, 2014 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats DM!!! Awesome job

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posted November 18, 2014 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aubyanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Do you think it might be the Scythe? Though that would fit more with "Cutting the loop", rather than closing it. I still think you need to separate him from Penderan because, if LeeLoo's take on time lines is the correct way to read GTs, then you're facing Mountain on the Fate Line and that would mean you'll reach a stalemate, a blockage. I understand it must be hard, but please make an effort.

I've been going through some weird emotional stuff too, and your almost astro twin is behaving weird also. I'll be damned if I understand anything anymore.


I have. I want to. He needs to STOP what I swear feels like taunting me on an unconscious / soul level.

Oh, I'm not kidding. Not at all.

We'll all be having a nice, easygoing conversation -- and he'll ask an unanswerable question; unanswerable in the sense that it only has ONE logical answer -- and I'm biting my tongue. And if I kindly begin to skirt the topic, he will return to it. Thank God he tends to do these most often when there's someone else in the room, so that I can extract myself from the conversation subtly. 'Hmm, yes, that is a mystery,' with about the same tone as I would use when referencing a grocery list.

Those are the moments I can't take. The ones where I feel he is daring me to say it. It's an extremely bizarre feeling.

Interestingly, my new development partner suggested I do my best to separate the project from my strange life, and its connexion to it. That approaching the story with a greater objectivity will better allow me to process the connexions to my actual experiences.

For me, I feel like I've been tasked with the worst-case alternate ending of Dead Again. No twist ending. Just hard truths to simply overcome. To just, y'know, go with it. Which is NOT easy to do!

Apologies in advance for my soul-brother. It's without a doubt that we all came down en masse, gobbling up the latter half of 1980. And if you see the outer planetary resonance, you'll know why!

We've got our reasons, though, ohhhh, for sure. But, I swear, if we don't accept the call to evolution, it's bad, bad news. For everyone involved.

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