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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 23, 2014 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reese,

Looking at the cutting cards as the first answer, I see a very speedy evolution of things over the winter months. I see Ship in bouquet reflected by Rider/Roads - and you are on the Roads - a new Road is ahead of you, ultimately leading to happiness. You are at a crossroad. Whip is in Cross with Lily and I see Coffin letter Book as the first thing ahead of you - are you separating or do I remember you're divorcing? This will happen rather soon - and I think it's not bad news since you were wating for that? Back to Lily, it is about the saame thing and we see several combos here about that: Whip Cross Lily - legal matters pertaining to an ending, we see a clouded obstacle, a delay, and Key papers needed for you to take this new journey (Child Ship). Is custody a issue here too? Do you have children? I see Child Man ending here, this man in your past, your fiancee/husband?? (Bouquet) so the matter is about this - Ship in bouquet. Yes, you had a house and a bouquet with him, and you are still in this house (house in woman) Did he make a new friend or slept with the Fox ( Fox in Whip)? sorry about that? Or perhaps there were problems with money,some scams or unwanted expenses? - Fish in Fox (unless there were some paid services) He is a good father though, if you do have children.

I'm afraid the whole GT speaks about this ending with the Man and the final outcome is perhaps Rider Heart Roads - a new road ahead of you, without indications about it. There is no other person for now


You and the Man meet on Coffin Cross flanking the House awww I am sorry and you're both waiting for Tree Letter Coffin


In the future however, there will be reconciliation and you will be friends again, for the sake of the child/children, or simply new friends. he will be the first to want that, then you will join him too.


Can you confirm any of this for me?

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posted December 23, 2014 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLoo, this is quite difficult to even type, as you are basically confirming that this is the end of a 7 year journey with this man. It's not that I'm necessarily sad about him, because lord knows it was a tumultuous relationship riddled with abuse, cheating, and financial difficulty, but because I gave everything to this person, only to actually have it confirmed that there was nothing we could've done to make it work.

Alas, that's life, and I'm ready to move on, especially considering we have no children, and I have no obligations to him or anybody now.

It's a bummer that there will be no immediate distraction after the divorce, as I have essentially abandoned everything and everyone over and over for this relationship(I will have to start completely from scratch), I guess I will have to hold on to the idea that eventually, things will get better, and I will be happy again.

I was hoping that AD would take my mind off of that, and I would be able to be a carefree 24 year old, but no news of him either

EDIT: It is nice though, that he will try to be my friend again.

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posted December 23, 2014 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am really really sorry, Reese

Take comfort in the fact that this new road is certain, you are already on Roads, and the Road is in Rider, Rider in the heart means a new man (the spread does not show him for now) and the Key is Love. The Child in this case is your new journey Child in Ship. The Roads card, crucial here, is surrounded by very good cards - Ship/Buquet - new happiness, Garden/Scythe - a surprise meeting, Birds-Clover - a happy couple. Apart from that, all these cards point to this new Roads starting in spring (I'd say March), that's why we couldn't see it in the cards You will be fine.

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posted December 23, 2014 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I am really really sorry, Reese

Take comfort in the fact that this new road is certain, you are already on Roads, and the Road is in Rider, Rider in the heart means a new man (the spread does not show him for now) and the Key is Love. The Child in this case is your new journey Child in Ship. The Roads card, crucial here, is surrounded by very good cards - Ship/Buquet - new happiness, Garden/Scythe - a surprise meeting, Birds-Clover - a happy couple. Apart from that, all these cards point to this new Roads starting in spring (I'd say March), that's why we couldn't see it in the cards You will be fine.


Thank you very very much LeeLoo. I am soo excited about this, and I know that this is factual because while researching Lenormand, I asked the same cards and got this:

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posted December 25, 2014 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What kind of pyramid is this, Reese? How is it read?

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posted December 25, 2014 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I finally found my method, Vesta, for reading GT time lines I realized changing the houses (which I recommend, I mean using two decks) doesn't solve the problem of Man Woman on marginal positions - Moon and Ring. These two, along with hHeart and hStork, are major positions, showing important things are happening into the life of the querent (s) and they're probably close to the events on the Fate Line. For Ring and Moon positions, you read the future on the line, towards the Fate Line (usually the first and the second card of the fate line).


And yes, the future is ALWAYS in front of the Man/Woman card - what they are facing (with the exception of this particular situation)


The most important clue here: if we draw the cards with the Woman as querent (from her perspective), it's her Fate Line; if the Man doesn't face any line leading towards her Fate Line, if only his past leads to her Fate Line, they will not meet again, he is a man from her past. If the querent is the Man (we draw the cards from his perspective, for example when we ask how he feels), it is his Fate Line, so we check if the woman is from the past or the future (if she has a line going towards his Fate Line).

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posted December 25, 2014 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think I finally found my method, Vesta, for reading GT time lines I realized changing the houses (which I recommend, I mean using two decks) doesn't solve the problem of Man Woman on marginal positions - Moon and Ring. These two, along with hHeart and hStork, are major positions, showing important things are happening into the life of the querent (s) and they're probably close to the events on the Fate Line. For Ring and Moon positions, you read the future on the line, towards the Fate Line (usually the first and the second card of the fate line).


And yes, the future is ALWAYS in front of the Man/Woman card - what they are facing (with the exception of this particular situation)


The most important clue here: if we draw the cards with the Woman as querent (from her perspective), it's her Fate Line; if the Man doesn't face any line leading towards her Fate Line, if only his past leads to her Fate Line, they will not meet again, he is a man from her past. If the querent is the Man (we draw the cards from his perspective, for example when we ask how he feels), it is his Fate Line, so we check if the woman is from the past or the future (if she has a line going towards his Fate Line).

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I love the idea here I may give it a try and see how this works for me.

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posted December 26, 2014 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I think I finally found my method, Vesta, for reading GT time lines I realized changing the houses (which I recommend, I mean using two decks) doesn't solve the problem of Man Woman on marginal positions - Moon and Ring. These two, along with hHeart and hStork, are major positions, showing important things are happening into the life of the querent (s) and they're probably close to the events on the Fate Line. For Ring and Moon positions, you read the future on the line, towards the Fate Line (usually the first and the second card of the fate line).


And yes, the future is ALWAYS in front of the Man/Woman card - what they are facing (with the exception of this particular situation)


The most important clue here: if we draw the cards with the Woman as querent (from her perspective), it's her Fate Line; if the Man doesn't face any line leading towards her Fate Line, if only his past leads to her Fate Line, they will not meet again, he is a man from her past. If the querent is the Man (we draw the cards from his perspective, for example when we ask how he feels), it is his Fate Line, so we check if the woman is from the past or the future (if she has a line going towards his Fate Line).


Thank you very much Lee I think I'm beginning to grasp how it works.

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posted December 26, 2014 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 28, 2014 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SandyShore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLoo, would you do a GT reading for me re. career and work? timeline next 6 months or for 2015? whichever is more precise... maybe 2015. If you accept, should i zoom down on my job question?

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posted December 28, 2014 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReeseC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What kind of pyramid is this, Reese? How is it read?


Oh sorry, didn't see this-I am the card in the center(the woman), the cards above me are the present situation, and the cards below me are in the 3 month time frame. I did this on etarrochi so I don't know how accurate it is.

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posted December 29, 2014 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How is the situation between you and J., Astro Keen? Any new info??

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posted December 29, 2014 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SandyShore:
LeeLoo, would you do a GT reading for me re. career and work? timeline next 6 months or for 2015? whichever is more precise... maybe 2015. If you accept, should i zoom down on my job question?

Right after Astro

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posted December 29, 2014 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
How is the situation between you and J., Astro Keen? Any new info??


Hi Leeloo, Nice to hear from you . A few positive developments. We'll be meeting up soon and he wants to discuss if I can move to his country. That's a very new thing and I'm intrigued.

I'm looking forward to seeing what his (viewpoint) GT shows.

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posted December 30, 2014 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi Leeloo, Nice to hear from you . A few positive developments. We'll be meeting up soon and he wants to discuss if I can move to his country. That's a very new thing and I'm intrigued.

I'm looking forward to seeing what his (viewpoint) GT shows.



I'm glad to hear maybe the wedding was with you..I freaked out when I saw it lol

OK I will do a different kind of GT, a combination of the methods of Treppner, Rana George etc.

It shows the present and his intentions and how he views you and what his intentions are. I must warn you: it looks like Lenormand shows the truth and often it shows things people don't want you to know. Lenormand is definitely prying. I'm still learning, but I will most likely have a glimpse at what you're thinking, what he's thinking, intentions etc. All GT's show that. So you must be confident that you want it. I'm waiting for your confirmation.

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posted December 30, 2014 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 30, 2014 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I do want it. And I expect brutal honesty - that would be most refreshing! I'd love to know how I delude myself, if that is the case .. If there are things not for public viewing than you could email me directly, and I could confirm or refute your suspicions.

This is exciting! Now waiting to see what wonders are revealed......

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posted December 31, 2014 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did the spread, Astro Keen. There are things in there you probably won't like Do you want to discuss it now, or next year?

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posted December 31, 2014 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now please, if you can. Don't worry LeeLoo, just let me know.

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posted December 31, 2014 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SandyShore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Right after Astro

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posted December 31, 2014 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Now please, if you can. Don't worry LeeLoo, just let me know.


Cutting cards: Fox + Birds (this could be lies)

I asked like this: What is the current life status of J.? with focus on personal/romantic life. Heart his love, Ring his relationship (s), Man him, Woman you, Snake another woman. It is possible he has another one too. You are both near his Heart and Ring.

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posted December 31, 2014 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLoo,

Do the position of the Snake and Woman reveal anything? Could the snake be in the future, for example. Not sure what the woman diagonally across means. Also Woman in Mice, next to Ring in Heart. What would you suggest this implies?

Whip in Fox doesn't look good! Lies about ones sexual life? His?

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posted December 31, 2014 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do not forget that I'm new to Lenormand. you are in Book, Book in Whip...it seems you are the secret lady, he is hiding you. This is how it seems.

Let's see...does he live with another man or his parents? Anyway, he seems to be living in a woman's house (man in woman) He is consfused right now, needs to take a major decision and he will (Clouds Scythe). Perhaps he lives with his father and wants to get rid of him? Clouds seems to be an older person. Is he a lawyer or something like that, J.? Or does he work with older people, somehow? he could be a surgeon too. he does something Scythe/Lily, what is it?


The solution above his head is about you, it seems to incline towards separation: Key in Tower, Tower before you in Ring, Key in Stork. you are a foreigner he visits from time to time (Ship in Stork) with whom he has a relationship mostly based on writng (Ring in Letter), you talk a lot, it seems like a fated connection - Birds Cross Dog as trio, but it may also mean considering putting an end to your friendhsip, it is in his future, Birds in Cross Cross in Dog Mountain in Birds.

Does he travel a lot? Roads in Garden, Moon in Mountain.

How am I ding so far? Tell me what his work is.

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posted December 31, 2014 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LeeLoo,

Do the position of the Snake and Woman reveal anything? Could the snake be in the future, for example. Not sure what the woman diagonally across means. Also Woman in Mice, next to Ring in Heart. What would you suggest this implies?

Whip in Fox doesn't look good! Lies about ones sexual life? His?



Pay attention that the 1st line is form 1 to 9, as houses

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posted December 31, 2014 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He lives away from family, in another country in a rented apartment, a niece staying with him at present who he hopes will leave soon. His father passed away many years ago.

You are doing well!

A separation in the future is ok by me. Perhaps there is something better for me next. We'll see.

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