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Ceridwen
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posted December 14, 2014 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, today Mr Sag put up the John Lennon song "War is over" onto his adventscalendar-game, which resulted in me in erupting in a bit uncharacteristic overemotional displays of enthusiasm. LOL (I will leave it there, though, cause it is the truth, I LOVE the song)

Anyway, funny enough I have just (3 or 4 days ago) posted this song and a video to this (not the official one, too depressing) on my own facebook page, and it was just, I don´t know the thought just struck me: He hasn`t been seeing it on my facebook account, right? I mean there is no reason why he should be interested in that. lol

Nah of course not.

I was pulling some cards on this nevertheless.

Rider - Scythe - Key

Well, I looked up the combinations

Rider + scythe (10): sudden news
Scythe + key (33): important decision, necessary decision, fate


LOL, well, I wouldn`t put too much stock into this.


Anyway at that I also pulled a tarot card what he is thinking abuot my comment (I suppose one THANK YOU - for posting the song- would have been enough, three are a little over the top?) and on how he thinks about it or how he likes/ dislikes my comment I was pulling the NINE OF CUPS.

Someone seems a little ... selfsatisfied on this card, right?

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posted December 14, 2014 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I LOVE that song TOO!!! I love the little synchronicities that pop up between us that just confirms we are soul sisters.. Makes me happy

Anyway...moving on. Yes in this case of your Leno spread I would definitely take the answer as a "yes" and that the scythe is supporting the concept of fate here with two positive cards around it.
Not to mention, I still view the 9 of cups in tarot as your "wish come true" card...although I know others differ on their opinions.
On a side note...I did one last spread before I went to bed last night asking if D was the one I was meant to be with forever. I pulled 3 cards: key+heart+man
Last night I had a dream. I was walking down a hallway of some office building and some strange man looked at me and said, "come follow me, I want to show you something." Well my first thought was, No way..this guy is going to mug me in a corner or worse, so I kept on walking to my destination. When I got to where I was going, I walked in the office door and realized I was in this Man's office!! He looked at me and started talking about this spiritual soul stuff and then started describing the idea of two souls male and female, almost exactly alike..pairs. I asked him, are you talking about Twinflames?" He said Yes! He turned around and said, "I want to show him to you. Would you recognize his face if you saw him?" I said Absolutely! He transported us to a scene of all black white images of people walking toward me with faces that were blurry so I couldn't see them. He said "keep looking." Then I saw the image of a man one to focus that looked very much like Cusp. But there were parts to him that were still blurry..I said he's not crystal clear. The man said, "what is his name?" I said D. He said "let me look it up in your script and verify him." He opened this thick old book, started turning pages and scanning the lines. It was one he was reading the script of a movie, story, something...he said, here's your name JB and next to it he pointed to the name DL. "Yes, he said, it's right here...he's the one."

...and then the dream ended. Crazy right? I have no idea who the man was in the dream but I can only use the words shamen, sorcerer, medicine man..to describe him.

I pulled three cards this morning after neutralizing my deck, asking if the TF dream last night was message of confirmation and I pulled: garden+whip+rider.
Can't really figure this one out...even after looking up the combinations.
Any ideas? I'm wondering if I need someone else to pull for this question.

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posted December 14, 2014 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another possible interpretation of this combo, tgem, if we consider the central card as the answer is: No (Whip), because you will meet this man soon.

Otherwise, the message still shows an imminent, unplanned meeting.

It doesn't seem to answer the Yes/No properly, it's unclear.

I have decided to assign to every Leno card a Yes/No meaning; like this, when I ask a Yes/No question, I don't get anything in between, just a clear answer. And then, depending on the answer, I do another spread for details. Of course, not all questions can be answered with YesNo, such as the "love" question, which I believe shouldn't be asked with Yes/No except for very special circumstances. lol

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posted December 14, 2014 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T-Gem,

interesting dream. Sounds like the man was a guide. Though I am never sure with dreams like these, if they depict actual reality or giving a form to our deeper thoughts.


Leeloo,

Whip? No whip there.
But if you wanna be whipped, I am sure we could arrange that.

Nevertheless, I have the Yes/No-idea from the book by Andy Boroveshengra.
He also assigns positive and negatives to the cards, and the majority of the card give the answer, but at the same time he has an example where the cards also tell the underlying story.

as he writes: If you want to know why the answer has come back as yes or no, read the cards meanings.

his example was Henry wanting to know if Joseph loved him.
The spread: Cross - Book - Lady

his nterpretation:
the cross is negative, the book neutral-negative, the lady is null. the answer is no, Joseph does not love henry. Why? He is about to (cross) meet a new (book) woman (lady). Henry soon found out Joseph was not gay.

Applying this to my spread:

Rider: positive-neutral
scythe: negative
Key: positive

it is tilted a bit more to the positive, but maybe I was not clear enough in phrasing my question.
However I thought it was interesting how fitting and related the first card Rider was to the subject at hand.


BTW I just booked my trainticket and afterwards was aksing how my ride/ travel/ trip is going to be. I got

Ship - Road - Garden


ROFL. the lennies did not say it was going to be smooth or hectic or whatever, but in fact just described me going on this trip (Ship) by public (garden) transportation (road).


I then was asking where or how i was going to see Mr SAg during this trip and got

Garden - Stars - Moon

LOL
Am I mistaken this refers to the theatre performance (garden and Moon, maybe? ) at night (stars-Moon?).
Hmm, what about the matinee performance?

And of cours emy REAL question would have been, if we will coincidentally cross paths OUTSIDE the booked theatre performance.

My cards like to tease me, right?

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posted December 14, 2014 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trolling cards!

I was just pulling three cards on the question: "Will we talk to each other on that occasion/ during that trip?" and was naturally expecting a clear NO-answer, and then my plan was to read the cards for why we will not talk.

But the spread I pulled was:

Garden - Heart - letter

Drat!
Three YEs-cards.

HOw am I supposed to understand this?

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posted December 14, 2014 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again I would say definitely "yes" with the garden and heart but to me the letter is neutral. Either way, garden and heart are a strong yes to me.

As far as pulling cards for my dream (garden-whip-rider) I frankly used the quantity and quality of positive/negative cards for my method here. My first interpretation was a "yes" because we have two positive cards (garden and rider) and one negative card (whip.) I have read only look to the central card (3rd card) as the main theme of the question when you have a 5-card spread.

But I agree when you try to decifer the individual meanings of garden-whip-rider all together it isn't clear.
However, Leeloo interesting interpretation about the cards indicating a an imminent unplanned meeting.

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posted December 14, 2014 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri, for your garden-heart-letter, I have read it is recommended to pull another 3 cards to clarify the story after you have gotten your yes/no answer. The cards will clarify it for you.

BTW: what is the date of the performace? Have your looked at what will be going on in your composite chart that day?

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posted December 14, 2014 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the question is if we keep it strictly to the Yes/No, only using cards as positive or negative, but not taking note of their meaning. That would be how Leelo suggests it I think.

in the case of Andy Borov. the cards still maintain their meaning and elaborate on the Yes/No answer they give themselves.

It probably depends how we energize the cards.


Anyway, I can pull some 3 cards more on that.


Ship - Tree - Lilies

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posted December 14, 2014 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Ship - Tree - Lilies"
What question was that spread answering?

I pulled cards for if you and P will have verbal interaction at his next performance:
I got: scythe-child -letter
Now in this case, to me, I see this as one negative, one positive and one neutral.
This doesn't answer the question so I added two more cards to make it a 5 card spread:
The new spread: scythe-child-letter-man-birds
LOL..again, 1 negative, 1 positive, 3 neutral.
So I pulled one final card to make 2 equal 3-card spreads:
Scythe-child-letter
Man-birds-dog
So answer is yes, 2 positive, 2 neutral, 1 negative.
Man-birds-dog (there will be friendly conversation between you two)
Interesting how I pulled the letter for you again...maybe you'll ask him to autograph a picture or something LOL
Oh yeah and man + dog is a future lover with a man you already know

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posted December 14, 2014 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
31st december.

Tr Mars opposite c-Saturn exact
Tr Eros conjunct c-Psyche (1)
Tr Eros conjunct c-Antivertex (2)

Tr Psyche conjunct c-Vesta exact
Tr Chiron conjunct c-Pholus (1)

Tr Uranus opposite c-Pluto (3) and square cVenus (3)

Tr Aphrodite conjunct c-IC, c-Eros, C-Priapus, C-Dionysos all within one degree (and funny enough conj. my name in my chart. lol)

Tr Moon conjunct c-IC and c-Juno
Tr Moon opposite c-Valentine, C-Lust

tr Juno opposite c-Pallas exact

Tr Jupiter conjunct c-Saturn and c-Vertex

Tr Valentine opposite c-Pholus exact

Tr NN conjunct c-Pluto exact NOW I am scared.

Tr Destinn and Tr Union conjunct c-Union
(we are heading from the nodal return right into an Union-return. lol)


Tr Pholus conjunct c-Sun (2)

Tr Ceres conjunct c-Sun exact

Tr Sun conjunct c-Sun/Moon-mp exact and POF

Tr Pluto conjunct c-Venus (2) and square c-Pluto (2)

Tr Vesta conjunct c-Venus exact

Tr Lust conjunct c-Moon (1)

Tr Mercury conjunct c-Moon (1)

Tr Venus conjunct c-Moon (3)

Tr Karma conjunct c-Moon (3)

and in relation to progressed composite


Tr Uranus opposite pc Aphrodite (1)
Tr Aphrodite opposite pc Uranus (2)
:sighs:


Tr Moon opposite pcAmor (which is conjunct c-Valentine-Lust btw)

Tr Valentine opposite pc Vesta exact on c Pholus (can`t escape that Vesta)


Tr Pholus conjunct pc MC exact

Tr Psyche conjunct pc Venus conjunct cVesta exact


Tr Chiron conjunct pcVesta


oh and of course

Tr Kaali square c Siva exact
Tr Siva trine c-Kaali (2)
Tr Parvati sextile c Siva (2)

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posted December 14, 2014 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow wow wow! Yep...that's it! That's the official start of things!!

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posted December 14, 2014 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I asked if he loves him and I got Clouds Bouquet Key...if he loves me with those two positives, what's the Clouds doing here?? not telling me, huh?

Anyway, Anne from CafeLenormand, who has a nice blog, recommends an awesome way to ask and to read Yes/No questions:
http://www.cafelenormand.com/lenormand-yes-no-spread/

CafeLenormand's list of positive/negative/neutral cards is here:
http://www.cafelenormand.com/lenormand-positive-negative-cards/

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posted December 14, 2014 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I have read this blog. This is how I read my yes/no questions as well. Thx for posting.

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posted December 14, 2014 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ok I asked if he loves him and I got Clouds Bouquet Key...if he loves me with those two positives, what's the Clouds doing here?? not telling me, huh?

Anyway, Anne from CafeLenormand, who has a nice blog, recommends an awesome way to ask and to read Yes/No questions:
http://www.cafelenormand.com/lenormand-yes-no-spread/

CafeLenormand's list of positive/negative/neutral cards is here:
http://www.cafelenormand.com/lenormand-positive-negative-cards/


Which way did clouds face ?
With clouds upright the dawn broke and he has clarity now, bouquet and key is the solution getting clear about what makes him happy.

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posted December 14, 2014 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm surprised to see Stork, Garden and Lily in her neutral pile. These, IMO are positive cards.

I would definitely put clouds in the neutral pile as it depends on where it falls in the spread. At the beginning it would be positive because the cards following it are on the light side. At the end of the spread would be more negative as all the cards are facing the dark side of the clouds.

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posted December 14, 2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by vesta:
Which way did clouds face ?
With clouds upright the dawn broke and he has clarity now, bouquet and key is the solution getting clear about what makes him happy.

Well, in my Piatnik deck, the Clouds are always bright on their right side, so the cards are on the clarity side, yes, thank you, Vesta. The right side is always the clear side of Clouds. Do you have a deck or a way of drawing Clouds that shows a different position? Do you use reversed or how?

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posted December 14, 2014 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with you, tgem, but now when I think about it, I suppose the idea is not having an overwhelming amount of cards that are positive and just a few negatives, because there are actually only 8 neg cards in leno, and the rest are mixed. Even the negatives can have good meanings lol


So I think I'll split all the cards in two and assign Yes, No to each and have only negative/positive cards for the Yes/No questions when drawing just ONE card, and then count those just like she says and use her list for a larger spread. Or maybe I'll just try her method first, for a while, see how it works with those neutrals lol But the idea of having several cards in a Yes/No sounds better than just one, for now

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posted December 14, 2014 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Well, in my Piatnik deck, the Clouds are always bright on their right side, so the cards are on the clarity side, yes, thank you, Vesta. The right side is always the clear side of Clouds. Do you have a deck or a way of drawing Clouds that shows a different position? Do you use reversed or how?


I use certain cards reversed. They still have same meaning but it depends what they are facing.

Scythe - where is danger, shock coming.
Woman- what is she looking at to what is her back turned.
Man - same
Clouds - dark vs. light
Rider - pointing which way who is bringing news
Ship -
Snake
Fox
Bear
Key
Can't remember others

In my opinion

If I had let's say
Woman reversed - scythe - man
Then I would say the woman is bringing danger to the man.

Now
Woman reversed - scythe reversed - man
Then I would say that danger is coming to the woman through a man.

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posted December 16, 2014 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very great posts above this one. I will come back to respond, but for now

well I was thinking of trying out the Yes/No spread of cafe astrology, as it seems more "profound" somehow than the 3 card ones I used so far.

So I was asking: Will I win that adventscalendar game one of these days? (only 8 more to go, right? I don`t feel like I am ever going to win though. lol
Still it would be nice, and I am SO curious of what kind of "personal gift" he is thinking. lol).

The Spread

Whip - Rider - Mountain - Child - Bouquet

Now that is puzzling. There are 2 negatives in there, and with the central card being a negative one, maybe it is doubled?

On the other hand there are 3 positives as well, and the spread ends with a very fitting positive card: Bouquet

So, Negatives:
Whip, Mountain

Positives:
Rider - Child - Bouquet

interestingly there is no neutral card in there.

It seems like a no-answer right? I mean like a spread that does not give a clear answer, or am I wrong.

So let´s see for the combinations:

Whip + rider (1):
feedback
message will bring trouble, message about a break up, two messages, dancing, discussions


Rider + mountain (21):
a delayed message,
a message is blocked, negative message

Mountain + child (13):
lonely child, problems with a new start

blockades caused by manipulations in connection with a child / young lady


Child + bouquet (9):
happy child, attractive child, children’s party, gift for a child
(could also be a small gift, as child is all that is a "little bit")
surprising invitation, present for a child / young lady,
small party


Mirroring:

Whip + bouquet (9):
enjoyable physical activity, dancing
cheerful conversations, slapstick,

Rider + child (13):
the child is a boy, message about a new start, surprising message
(unhoped-for), wish becomes true, a young lady comes in touch, a child calls


(interestingly enough the child IS a boy. lol or the man is a bit of a boy and child? )

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posted December 16, 2014 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do you think it's a No? It's 3 to 2 for positives.

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posted December 16, 2014 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because I am a deliberate pessimist (I choose to be pessimistic to be not too disappointed if it will not come topass).

Well 3 positives, and the Mountain actually might simply mean it is delayed, as it is cushioned by two positives, the Rider and the child, and the child, which also can signify a surprise leading up to the bouquet.
A card which has been quite reliably turned up in relation to him.

But as I said deliberate pessimist here. lol

Well in a week we will know, won´t we?

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posted December 16, 2014 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vesta inspired me with her other thread; though I wouldn´t claim that, no, not really, I was extending - on a whim really, silly me! :blush: - the Yes/No question to the unthinkable question of: "Are we twinflames?" (as if that made a difference!)

Garden - Key - Cross - Ring - Book

1 positive, 1 negative, rest neutral. lol

Nevertheless the middle three cards really made me go

I suppose even though we might or might not be, there is some heavy karma there. lol


Garden + key (33): success with the public, important meeting
success with an audience / in public

Key + cross (36): destiny /fate


Cross + ring (25):
this relationship cannot be broken

Ring + book (26): contracts, secret relationship, secret love

Key + ring (25): necessary commitment
support and a contract, success concerning a contract


So since that spread seemed so quite not-carefree , I was further asking what we are going to experience with each other? (I was thinking more short/midterm though, not lifetime-spanning. lol - In fact for some reason i can`t even think beyond january. lol)

Tower - lily - stars - whip - Rider

Tower + lily:
judge, support from a man who owns / leads an enterprise

Lily + star (16): lifetime achievement reward, famous man, good sex
lucky sexuality, new start with family

Star + whip (11): success, athlete
music : - I totally can see that last one! lol

Whip +rider:
message will bring trouble, message about a break up, two messages, dancing, discussions

Tower + rider (1): government messages, post office
message from authorities

Lily + whip: conversations with lover or male person, sometimes
conversations with family members
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posted December 17, 2014 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Why do you think it's a No? It's 3 to 2 for positives.

I agree with Leeloo, I see this as a Yes. 3 and 2.

BTW my cards are "on" today so feel free to ask a question if need someone neutral to pull

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quote:
Originally posted by tgem:
I agree with Leeloo, I see this as a Yes. 3 and 2.

BTW my cards are "on" today so feel free to ask a question if need someone neutral to pull


Me!


Tell me what you see at the beginning of 2015 for me

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quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Me!


Tell me what you see at the beginning of 2015 for me


Ok! I pulled:
Birds-cross-scythe-key-clover
Interesting..looks like you are going to have a very positive/fated conversation or get a fated/positive message that will be very transforming for you...like it's part of your destiny...key and clover as last two cards looks great

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