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Ceridwen
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posted April 21, 2015 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering (and asking) if someone was visiting my facebook, especially the pictures I uploaded there.

(funnily what made me think of that, was because he uploaded a picture today, that seemed to mirror the style of one of the pictures I uploaded. The one where half of my face is in the light the other in shadow, and he pretty much posted the very same picture just of himself. It`s probably just a coincidence, but it made me wonder if he might have seen this pic of me on my fb page).


What do you think?
I find the 3 of wands pictogram especially interesting, for there is this man on it looking into the distance, seemingly seeing something or looking out for something, but we cannot see what.


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pulled a clarifying card, esp. on Empress, for a short Yes/No-answer and got Ace of Swords

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posted April 21, 2015 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri-every one of those cards is a "Yes" card to me...
I'll pull for you as well:
Birds-letter-child
Pulled clover to clarify letter
"Yep!"

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posted April 21, 2015 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you, T-gem.

So I guess this is a Yes all around. Caught in the act, I`d say.

But I was at least smiling on the pic. lol

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posted April 21, 2015 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why did you have to pull a clarifier? I cannot unsee A/S!!

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posted April 22, 2015 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thought I was overdoing it with the 3 cards, and aimed for a very cut, clear YES/NO-question and answer. No sneaking around, no psychobabbling analysing etc.

Just a YES he saw it, and it was sort of a response to it.
NO he did not see it, it was a coincidence.

A or B

No A but maybe also B under the consideration that C and D - you get what I am getting at?


Why can`t you unsee it though?

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posted April 22, 2015 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see.

A/S is a no, when it comes to yes/no, in my spreads. I don't think you can de-contexualise the cards, that is - you can't fully use them when for yes/no questions, Death can mean both, for example. However, I think if you go by feel and just that "Ooh, I like them 8/W" you could get your answer.

So, The question is - do you react positively to A/S?

Found this spread, try it http://benebellwen.com/2012/12/15/eden-grays-mastering-the-tarot-celtickeltic-cross-three-aces-spreads/

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posted April 22, 2015 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If a card signifies a Yes to me, then it`s the Ace of swords (and the Ace of Wands). The Ace of swords seems to be more fitting the context though, as it deals with the mind and mental sphere, and "seeing" is definitely part of it.

Interesting how differently we see cards.
Which just seems to emphasize for me that it is important that the one who pulls the cards (at least online), interpretes the spread. As if you had pulled cards, a total different set might have come up.

If DEATH had come up for me in this spread and context I had seen it as a very clear categorical NO (though in relationship and attraction spreads Death can have a different connotation for me as well).

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posted April 22, 2015 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm I usually don`t do reversals, but I might try it (though I am not sure if it will be really okay, as I have already pulled cards on the question)

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posted April 22, 2015 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ace of Pentacles reversed (left)
Ace of Cups upright (right)

Yes, but a delayed Yes, I think.

(I did reverse the piles though, as for me the right pile is ALWAYS the outcome, and the left pile is connected to the start/past/subconsciious etc. I know that others read it differently, but for me to place the final outcome left (and having cards follow that one) just feels so wrong to me internally)

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posted April 22, 2015 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A/S - No, but it works like a amplifier when next to The Magician, Hierophant etc - the intellectual, effectual lot

A/W - Yes (or yeah, but that's more than enough for you)
A/C - Maybe - Cups are about generosity, and often don't neglect the other party

A/P - YES

When I want a strictly yes/no answer. Again, the context is paramount.

Re: Death - I was working out late night , was done and my friend stopped by - I was starving and asked her if she could fetch me a meal, despite the time. She agreed and I played with the cards a bit, asked if I would eat that night and got the aforementioned card. What do you think had happened?

I know what you mean about the outcomes and right side - That's because we read from left to right.

Was tad confused by that spread... I don't use reversals either.

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posted April 22, 2015 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me all Aces represents Yes to a certain degree

A/S - YES, cutting through any confusion, clarity (interestingly it can often mean a separation, too, in terms of relationships)


A/W - Yes (now, INSTANTLY - not always following through though )

A/C - Yes

A/P - Yes (but slowly)


"Again, the context is paramount."
AGreed.

"She agreed and I played with the cards a bit, asked if I would eat that night and got the aforementioned card. What do you think had happened? "
Yes, you ate, but she brought back the wrong meal, or a different one?
No, you fell asleep before the meal arrived?

"Was tad confused by that spread... I don't use reversals either. "
Yes me too - and neither

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posted April 22, 2015 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think your initial spread, and confirmed by Tgem's, shows he did see the pictures, in a browsing manner (suggested by both 3 of Wands and Judgment, and Tgem's spread with Child and Clover), When someone in your f list changes their profile picture, facebook always shows it in the upper part of News Feed, it has priority. So, yes, I think he saw it. I'm not sure what Empress means here; you can ask what he thought of it do you want me to?

About the aces...I think the Ace of Swords needs an additional card; it shows an energetic mental attitude, a strong reaction about something, but sometimes it can be a negative strong reaction; it's a verdict, having a clear idea about something, but the sword also "cuts out" or "kills", so it's impossible to know if this sword wants to fight for something or to fight something off, without an additional card.

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posted April 22, 2015 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've noticed that A/S, W are very forceful (but, hey, that's masculine suits for ya).

She brought the meal, it was so good that I continued without sleep into the next day - Reborn.

I manage without reversals by making difference between position 1 and 2 in 2-card spreads, and 1th,3rd and 2nd placement in 3-card spreads which I pull for other people.

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posted April 22, 2015 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About the Ace of Wands, I see it as a yes: "yes, I want this"

Ace of Cups: yes, I love this.

Ace of Pentacles: yes, I want to do this, I will do something about this

but there are of course various situations where they can be part of a negative spread.

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posted April 22, 2015 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I've noticed that A/S, W are very forceful (but, hey, that's masculine suits for ya).

She brought the meal, it was so good that I continued without sleep into the next day - Reborn.

I manage without reversals by making difference between position 1 and 2 in 2-card spreads, and 1th,3rd and 2nd placement in 3-card spreads which I pull for other people.


So you got Death to your question, yet she brought the meal? Talk about interesting indirect answer and the limitation for yes/no Cool stuff!

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posted April 22, 2015 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I think your initial spread, and confirmed by Tgem's, shows he did see the pictures, in a browsing manner"
That is what was my idea.

however

"When someone in your f list changes their profile picture,"
I am not in his friend`s list. I ONLY ever write on his professional page, and I stay out of his personal fb page (though he DID mention his alias on the last concert. lol Talk about knowing how to keep your own privacy. ).

NEvertheless, I have no business on his private page, so I stay out of it (well unless we count having a peek out of curiosity now and then. ).

Anyway, so my profile change would not appear on his page I think?
(I have too freaking little clues about how that fb thing works!)

well, the thumbnail beside my name (when posting) looks differently of course now, as I changed my profile pic.

"you can ask what he thought of it do you want me to?"
I ALWAYYS want you to pull card for me. lol

Actually that was why I pulled the extra card, because I did not quite understand Empress here. But somehow my question got muddled up in my mind then, I suppose.

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posted April 22, 2015 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus,

how interesting!

You transformed from sleepy and hungry into awake and full.


can you say again how you interprete the three positions in your spreads?

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posted April 22, 2015 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about that!


On my reading style -

When I read for the others and draw 3 cards I go like this:

4/C + The Devil + The Fool

Someone's gotten robbed of an opportunity but that will turn to be a good thing. (The Devil is the cutting, modifying, reversal-ish card.)

The Devil + 4/C + The Fool

A fiendishly good opportunity that will spring you into new territory. (The Devil is in position 1, and given the context, can be "good" or bad". 4/C would reinforce the positive context The Devil is describing because isn't the cutting card all by itself.)

4/W + 3/W + 2/W (a recent example)

The situation is already official (4/W), and you'll soon receive the feedback (3/W) and make your intention reality (2/W).

3/W landed in position 2, but can't really cut the first card - they are both very positive. That would be a very old school example. 3 cards, all's "positive", all is well.

6/W + The Star

An excellent effort, did their finest - but the goal is out of reach. (Negative outcome and yet the cards click so positively.)


The Star + 6/W

You've made it, but not without sweat. The opposing party is a well established and strong competition but you've bested them.

(All examples have happened.)

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posted April 24, 2015 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for being late with the spread, Ceri

So: what did P think about Ceri's photo?

Queen of Sw Hanged Man 10 of Cups

Evaluation - Took his time (New look/outlook) - "Like!"

Queen of sw is also the thinnest Q of the Tarot, so he may have noticed you lost weight
Perhaps that's another meaning for Judgment Empress 3 of Wands: "she's lost some weight, I like it"

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posted April 24, 2015 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I think he definitely noticed it, I mean he was noticing it even last year, and since then it has become even more visible.

BTW he apparently also decided that whatever bugged him, to get over it; at least he "liked" a comment I made this morning, which of course is not much, but it`s the right direction.
And it is a "return to his old ways", that silence he was exercising for the last months (not only in terms of me), just felt weird. he is such a communicative guy, him falling silent, feels a tad alarming. lol
(well if he stops speaking, he might start thinking, and that is a dangerous route )

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posted April 25, 2015 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seriously sometimes I want to ask myself:
What on earth are you DOING?


But that`s just it, he presses a button (and somehow has figured out or coincidentally is doing so, which button to press) and I react without even thinking.

This time he posted a Beethoven song along with the last stanza of the poem about going on a trip/ journey, just to realize at the end, that people are the same anywhere you go, and pretty much just as much fools as we are here, at home.


Yeah naturally THAT gets a Sagittarius into a ranting mode (though I probably should keep my ranting to this forum and not living it out on his facebook page. lol - well the conclusion of my rant was just that somehow I find it beautiful and comforting that people ARE similiar as a whole and that we are all fools in one way or another. Yes sure I needed to write THAT, didn`t I?

I REALLY need a way to control my verbal effusions when it comes to him, especially online. lol


Nevertheless done is done, and I refuse to just erase it, cause as a matter of fact it is the truth, what i feel and think and he made me think, and maybe I should not have let that known, but hey, it is what it is.


So I was pulling three cards on what he is going to think about what I wrote there and pulled:

CHARIOT - MAGICIAN - SUN


Three majors? Seriously?

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posted April 25, 2015 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, as noone wants to play with me, I just decided to play with myself.

So I was wondering about why he was posting that poem/ stanza, what is the general message he wants to get across:

3 of swords - 3 of pentacles - Queen of Swords

mmh,
no travel cards so far.


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I asked why he posted it and I got
Temperance, Queen of Swords (!), Knight of Swords
He wanted to connect (Temperance) with you through someone's words? (Swords)

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posted April 25, 2015 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aww too nice of you to draw for me.

In fact I find it interesting, cause the Queen appeared again.

Also something I did not mention, I did draw some cards also what message these words contained to me. So if he wanted to bring something across to me (which we do not know) what would it be? (more abut the phase he is in, not so much in terms of our "relation", but maybe including this)

And I got

Temperance - Judgement - World


Evaulation complete? lol

it is an end of a cycle, what follows who knows?
Maybe a complete parting of ways (though I was not even aware there were a shared way. lol) or a new beginning.

It does fit his behaviour though. He has been so mute and withdrawn for MONTHS, and also looking so thoughtful, melancholic and not really all that happy.

And suddenly he started posting like crazy. I mean it CRAZY. from posting nothing at all for months, to at least 3 or 4 posts a day for the last week.

Obviously that is going to change again and he will have to cut back on that,k but the change in pace was very apparent.

Of course nothing of that really has to do with me or not necessarily. Still I found it interesting to note.

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posted April 25, 2015 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and if indeed he wanted to connect to me through these words (and the irony is not lost on me that Beethoven`s - he composed the music- Sun-Moon-Mercury is conjunct his Sun-Moon-MC and my Sun-mercury)

anyway if he wanted to connect to me through these words, what is he really saying here.
That we are all fools? That no matter where you travel and run (and he has been travelling a lot), people are the same everywhere, and fools like we are, so it sais.


Funny, just yesterday I mentioned that I had been travelling to Cornwall (partly inspired by the Artus-musical I had seen last year), which I know he saw, as he "liked" the comment (though he probably liked the part about how fantastic the cast and musical was ).

So yesterday my comment contained the mentioning of travelling, and today he posts a song/ poem about it doesn`t matter how far you travel. lol
(though I guess he related that to himself, as he is on the road at the moment to reach various destinations for performing on stage).

Fools - interestingly that is my theme card this year. lol

And I had been musing a little in the recent months, about how much of a fool I had been to not see that there might have been, possibly, a chance that he liked me as well.

I did not really let that show too much, that I did like him, I guess, and was downplaying any kind of possible sign of mutual sympathy, so yes I DO get it how *I* am the fool.

But him? What makes HIM a fool?

Itīs not like he really WANTED a chance with me, is it?
But even if so, it`s too late for that realization now.

Maybe we are both fools for wanting what we cannot possibly have, or maybe the only fool here is me.

But I find, my pride has somehow flown away, and making myself a fool doesnīt feel that horrible anymore.

If it is foolish to like him despite anything, yes, then I am a fool.
But I am rather a fool than pretending I donīt feel when I do.
(all with respectful distance of course. Hey Venus in Capricorn here. I am a lady! )

EDIT
Oh gosh must be rant-urday today.

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