posted May 10, 2015 05:57 AM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

LeeLoo's Esotericorner

posted May 10, 2015 06:38 AM            

I must say though, that I told him in the dream that I did not want to dream of him. I was fighting his presence in my dream, but that did not make him go away or made his energetic presence feel more muffled.
But I did not welcome him with open arms in the dream, that is for sure.

posted May 10, 2015 07:13 AM            

The interpretation of the spread makes a lot of sense, too.

posted May 10, 2015 07:41 AM            

the first 2 cards could relate to the past, the last 2 to the future for example.

My preferred approach is this:

Card in the middle is the focus card, giving the theme, and the central message, that is what it`s about in a nutshell.

The first 2 (or 3 cards in a line of 7) illuminate the background of the question, maybe even things that are going on underneath/ subconsciously that the querent is not completely aware of.

the last 2 (or 3) cards are pointing the way into the future, what will develop in relation to the question.

So in my case I would say the central card is the bouquet, so the short answer to my question is, this is about something nice. happiness, something to bring a smile to my face. Joy. a gift, an invitation maybe.

So it seems the shortest answer to the qestion is I dreamed of him cause my subconsciousness wanted to remind me to experience something joyful (apparently deep inside I am thinking it might be nice to see him again So treacherous!)
It might also be an invitation. my subconsciousness is inviting me to stop and smell the roses so to speak. Go with the flow and have some innocent lovely fun.

Now for the background.
Letter + tower

baffled me, but deep within there seems to be a message contained (letter) and it now strucks me how I mentioned something about having lived for too long in some kind of ivory tower. lol
Maybe my subconsciousness wants to remind me that I occasionally still withdraw there, and with bouqet being central card, it is ******* time to get the hell out of there!

What this means in terms of future development is that destiny is awaiting me, and the road to destiny is plastered with options and choices, probably starting with the first choice of making the first step out of the tower and smell the roses and then move on towards whatever is awaiting me.

posted May 10, 2015 10:06 AM            

While basically I perceive my life as full of free choice, and well, we might be dealt a certain deck of cards, but it is up to us how we play them, and there is a lot of free will and options in that. Could go this way, or another. Many possibilities. That is how I view life usually.

And then there are certain - rare- moments that feel absolutely "scripted", when I even feel as if I am acting out or even saying the words of a script, I am nto even aware of. But it just feels "scripted".
There is no choice in these moments (unless totally blocking everything of course, but this takes a lot of energy).
Meeting Mr Sag that night some years ago felt like such a scripted moment.
I tried to avoid that meeting and just walk home to the hotel that night, which was just a few hundred metres away.
Despite that I was getting lost in the night and basically was walking circles around the theatre, which I had not been aware of.
When I passed the stage door of the theatre (which I had not been able to find, had I intended to search for it. lol) for the third time, I simply gave up trying to walk away from this place without seeing him.

There are some of these moments, but they are not that frequent actually.
But if they happen they seem to be "turning points" or decision-points somehow.

For some reason I feel like such a "scripted moment" is approaching, or I am approaching such a moment. though I can`t of course say exactly when and where or who it will involve. Just that feeling of premonition.

posted May 10, 2015 10:48 AM            

Basically for a 5, I read:
Bouquet:- core theme of the answer.

Possible time evolution surrounding it: from Letter to Key, by pairing: letter tower, tower bouquet path-bouquet path is a pair contrasting with tower, path key. You need to pay attention to pairs coming up: for example you can have a spread: rider letter stork woman man (woman man is a pair and everything else most likely happens in connection to them) or in Ceri's other spread: Key stork child (that's a pair, a pair can be of more than 2 cards) -a theme - radical change.

then the final answer, the most important clue, is given by mirrors: key letter (important message) focusing on the antagonism tower-roads (browsing) flanking bouquet (diversity, positive vibe): key message about one vs many.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

LeeLoo's Esotericorner

posted May 10, 2015 12:11 PM            

Maybe that'll happen during Venus Rx? The boys being fire signs, you with you strong fire...

LeeLoo2014,

So - 1 2 3 4 5

3 = core, direct answer

1+2
2+3
3+4
4+5 and then mirroring -

posted May 10, 2015 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Ceridwen,

Maybe that'll happen during Venus Rx? The boys being fire signs, you with you strong fire...

LeeLoo2014,

So - 1 2 3 4 5

3 = core, direct answer

1+2
2+3
3+4
4+5 and then mirroring -

1+5 and 2+4? Which is the main card, and which is the modifier, for example 1+5, letter and key?

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good synthesis, Venus. Usually the second (it's the attribute/verb), but sometimes, with certain classical pairs, it can work the other way around. (you just get to feel them with time)

For example in Ceri's spread, it is suggested by the rest of the spread and logic that we have a key message (key as attribute for letter) rather than a "lettered" key (let's say a key she receives by mail, for instance)

Actually, that's the first question/problem when learning Leno, it seems like something difficult to master, but it just happens, with time, to feel the correct attribution, trust me. (in the context)

For example:

Heart Child House
I have marriage + children in my heart (wish)
or I wish for/love a little (child) house
or first time (child - new) I experience a stable kind of love (heart house)

Child Heart House
I love my job as kindergarten teacher (Child House)
a child I love comes visiting me

sometimes more than one version is true at the same time, for the same spread which is pretty cool with Leno.

The core is not necessarily the direct answer, more like the theme

posted May 10, 2015 02:24 PM            

I love your explanations.

To make them practical, maybe you could do a line of 5 for the upcoming concert on saturday, Hey it is called MILESTONE concert after all!
What I will experience there etc.

Of course I am not trying to get a reading out of you, it is all just for academical exercise reasons.

posted May 10, 2015 03:38 PM            

OK

how will the milestone concert be for Ceri?

book (you love that don't you?

ok
book bear garden snake birds

I guess we can all agree garden is the concert itself

I immediately see a possible jealousy theme here? or very intense atmosphere and feelings related to the performance (Bear Snake)

also a Paradise theme (Garden Snake) anything in there about Paradise?

book shows some unknown unexpected things or thing happening. it can also be an expensive ticket? (book bear) perhaps more expensive than expected.
bear garden - lots of people, the bear itself can be the male star; maybe the role is..."bearish"? bear garden - I see the bear enjoying himself in his natural habitat, eating berries...it's gonna be a success (bear garden - big concert, milestone, big performance). Garden itself is a milestone event. You will enjoy it

Then comes this Snake -the snake in the garden huh lol sorry I couldn't help it: temptation. and a controversial woman Eve, maybe even Lilith

I think you will talk to some woman, without a doubt: Snake Birds I felt like pulling a card on snake for additional info: Stork, yep, an additional female clue, the Queen of hearts. Are you going with your mom? perhaps you will interact with a tall or slim or warm-hearted woman or a mommy woman lol

Now, bear snake...is this a duet, or some jealousy/seduction/intense feelings/songs theme in the concert?

I think Book Birds speaks of a "by the book" vocal performance or something memorable.

the snake herself can be one of the singers, with stork being another bird, so perhaps it's about a duet on stage?

posted May 10, 2015 04:16 PM            

So many animals in the spread. Animalistic experience?

"book (you love that don't you? "
Jup, am I not meant to know? Am I going to bring a book?
Sereiously I ALWAYS bring a book and read a bit before these things start, when it gets too boring. Though I have not done that for the last occasions seeing Mr Sag. Who will not be there. I have to forcibly remind myself of that. Thinking of that concert the air is just brimming with his energy, but he is not one of the performers. It confuses me, that it still has that energetic sense of him. Strange.
Maybe my inner sense confuses that concert with the musical the week after that when I will indeed see him.

"ok
book bear garden snake birds"

"I guess we can all agree garden is the concert itself "
AGreed to that.

"I immediately see a possible jealousy theme here?"
Hmm, I don`T see how I could have reason for jealousy, after all there is no crush or love interest of mine on stage. Though 2 of the performers do have hooked into my mind/ heart whatever at different times in my life.
It`s not just Mr Aries, being there, but someone from a long distant past, who apparently still manages to make me nervous. Just because he has such an intense electric energy, and I used to be very unable to deal with that. In a purely energetic sense. I remember how difficult it was to stifle a giggle when sitting too close to stage (which will not happen on saturday, 12th row is not close to stage), just as a reaction to that energy. But hopefully it will be better now.
And that is not speaking of any kind of crush-like feelings I had around him, nope, never did.

I am disgressing. sorry.

"also a Paradise theme (Garden Snake) anything in there about Paradise? "
LOL No, not the "Paradise of pain" musical, that is where Mr Sag is playing now and then, though not on saturday. He`s got a free day on saturday.

As for the songlist, it will be mostly pop songs I think, I read something about "Wind of Change", "Forever Young", "San Francisco" and others of course.
I will let you know if anyone sang something about paradise, garden or snakes.
Mr.Electrocuter loved to sing: "Origin of love" a lot, (you know the song about creatures who have been split into two, and being spread all over the world and from there they are seeking their counterpart. old story by Plato.) But that one is from a musical, so I donīt think it`s likely.
So no clue.

"perhaps more expensive than expected."
Well I already have my ticket though.

"itself can be the male star;"
4 stars on stage, 2 of interest to me. lol

" maybe the role is..."bearish"?"
Not really a role, as it is not a play, but just a concert.
It just struck me that Mr Electrocuter as well as Mr Aries`s family name contains the syllable "be(a)r". lol
The other names do not contain that syllable. lol
Yeah I know I am getting a little silly.

"I see the bear enjoying himself in his natural habitat, eating berries..."
LOL
that will be nice to see.

"You will enjoy it"
That was my secret hope.

"Then comes this Snake -the snake in the garden huh lol sorry I couldn't help it: temptation. and a controversial woman Eve, maybe even Lilith"
uoh, do I have to keep myself on a leash?
I usually come up as the snake (rather than as woman interesting, unless I pick a significator).
And Lilith again, hu?
SEriously she is haunting me presently. lol

There will be no woman on stage, so if I meet a controversial woman, it will have to be surrounding the concert, in the audience maybe.

"Are you going with your mom?"
No I am going on my own.

" perhaps you will interact with a tall or slim or warm-hearted woman or a mommy woman lol"
maybe someone`s pregnant. lol

"Now, bear snake...is this a duet, or some jealousy/seduction/intense feelings/songs theme in the concert?"
I don`t know yet. But if it is, I would welcome it. I mean I love these themes on stage, just not being in the centre of them.

"the snake herself can be one of the singers, with stork being another bird, so perhaps it's about a duet on stage?"
But they are all male.
could that still be valid?

"and then all of these are probably going to happen at the same time, as it happens with Leno "
LOL
Yes I know.

But you pulled rather nice cards all in all. Thank you for that.

posted May 10, 2015 04:44 PM            

Well the songs possibly reminding of paradisic themes:

Immortal: Mr Aries
Send me an angel: all
and the medley from hair, sounds nice,
Aquarius - good morning starshine and Let the sunshine in - not compplaining about this selection!

Funny enough Mr Electrocuters pr Sun and pr Moon are in Aquarius (and squeezing my natal Moon. lol and yes his pr Sun conjunct my pr Lilith exact GO AWAY ALREADY)

oh I just realized that I have pr Lilith conjunct natal Moon (2a), and pr Venus conjunct natal Lilith (2a), both in Aquarius, 19-17 and 26-28 degrees. lol

posted May 12, 2015 04:45 AM            

Ceridwen,

posted May 12, 2015 05:05 AM            

quote:

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Mr.Electrocuter

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The message for you in that dream:
Hermit, 8 of Cups, Magician

I think it's saying: "Get out of that cave of singledom and become active in this department, you can do it.".