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Orange
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posted June 29, 2015 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This spread reveals what each partner expects from the relationship. May give some clarity, especially in a case of seemingly unrequited love.


The top row is the querent, the bottom row is the partner.
From left to right we have:

1a. What the querent expects will happen (Life experience, trad. The Tower)
1b. What her partner expects will happen (Four of Water)
2a. What the querent hopes will happen (Ace of Water)
2b. What the other person hopes will happen (Ace of Air)
3a. What the querent fears might happen (Four of Earth)
3a. What the other person fears might happen (Four of Fire)

4a. Strength of the relationship (The Hierophant)

4b. Weakness of the relationship (The Moon)

5a+b Outcome + Angel insights about where the relationship is heading (3 of Pentacles and Children)
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posted June 29, 2015 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just did this spread with Leno, and was surprised of how accurate the cards were.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted June 30, 2015 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice spreads! Can we exchange this one?

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posted June 30, 2015 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes,

I am gonna use Leno again. Who is the guy in question?

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posted June 30, 2015 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
yes,

I am gonna use Leno again. Who is the guy in question?


R, your favorite

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Orange
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posted June 30, 2015 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, Lo

I said in the other love spread thread that I'll try P first, but somehow I had this spread opened and i did this one for P, instead of the other spread.

so,

1a. What the querent expects will happen - SNAKE, pulled a clarifier - Stork.
I guess you expect an eventual relationship with this man to be kinda risque and unpredictable.
1b. What her partner expects will happen -
BIRDS
Right now he is looking forward to talk to you and connect with you. He expect you to call him.
2a. What the querent hopes will happen -
MOON
Romance is what you hope for here
2b. What the other person hopes will happen -
WOMAN
YOu is what he is hoping will happen
3a. What the querent fears might happen -
MICE
You fear that this relationship may bring fears and worries or that he may wear you down
3a. What the other person fears might happen -
RIDER, clarifier - Clover
He fears that a young man may replace him soon, that you'll leave him for another

4a. Strength of the relationship -
BOUQUET
The strength of this relationship is the good laugh and good feelings that you two share when together
4b. Weakness of the relationship -
MAN
He is the weaker link. Unreliable, maybe

5a+b Outcome + Angel insights about where the relationship is heading-
CROSSROADS + FISH
The relationship prospects are still not clear. On a crossroad. Whatever decision would be taken, most like likely will be for good ( fish).

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posted June 30, 2015 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1a. What the querent expects will happen

Child

a new beginning, children, fresh start, innocence and forgiveness

1b. What her partner expects will happen

Roads Cross

he wants a clear decision, a clear path, a turning point


2a. What the querent hopes will happen

letter

to talk, to receive news, messages, to communicate. also documents, agreements, contract maybe?/

2b. What the other person hopes will happen

Ring

well

3a. What the querent fears might happen

clover
loosing this chance, but the querent doesn't seem too fearful though

3a. What the other person fears might happen

stars garden

he is contemplating things, the only fear I see here is of "other people", competition maybe, losing oneself in the crowd

4a. Strength of the relationship

sycthe
hm I think it is the passion, the intensity

4b. Weakness of the relationship

Key

it doesn't have a weakness, it needs a solid, final solution, a commitment perhaps; unlocking something, a new path, a new door needs to be opened.

5a+b Outcome + Angel insights about where the relationship is heading

Key + Snake

the woman hold the Key. Positive outcome.

What happened to the bouquet stars, babe?

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posted June 30, 2015 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I pulled one more card on Scythe for you, I felt the need to do that: Scythe Fish. the strength is exclusiveness. Together you can be like with no other person. What is between you is unique.

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posted June 30, 2015 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the spread is very correct, Lo

for Schyte as strength- it may mean that our strength is the honesty, like, brutal honesty. Fish is that things between us cut really deep. We are able to reach depth here

for his fears - stars + garden - he fears I am too social, a social butterfly, and someone may steal me from him

for my fears - clover - i fear the luck may end up one day and i'll regret it

for my hopes - letter - I do hope for a better communication. He is VERY closed up, doesnt open up to me easily

for his hopes - ring - he wants total commitment, yes

for his expectations - cross and roads - he expect us to stick in together in good and bad

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posted June 30, 2015 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
the spread is very correct, Lo

for Schyte as strength- it may mean that our strength is the honesty, like, brutal honesty. Fish is that things between us cut really deep. We are able to reach depth here

for his fears - stars + garden - he fears I am too social, a social butterfly, and someone may steal me from him

for my fears - clover - i fear the luck may end up one day and i'll regret it

for my hopes - letter - I do hope for a better communication. He is VERY closed up, doesnt open up to me easily

for his hopes - ring - he wants total commitment, yes

for his expectations - cross and roads - he expect us to stick in together in good and bad


great interpretation!

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posted June 30, 2015 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
ok, Lo

I said in the other love spread thread that I'll try P first, but somehow I had this spread opened and i did this one for P, instead of the other spread.

so,

1a. What the querent expects will happen - SNAKE, pulled a clarifier - Stork.
I guess you expect an eventual relationship with this man to be kinda risque and unpredictable.
1b. What her partner expects will happen -
BIRDS
Right now he is looking forward to talk to you and connect with you. He expect you to call him.
2a. What the querent hopes will happen -
MOON
Romance is what you hope for here
2b. What the other person hopes will happen -
WOMAN
YOu is what he is hoping will happen
3a. What the querent fears might happen -
MICE
You fear that this relationship may bring fears and worries or that he may wear you down
3a. What the other person fears might happen -
RIDER, clarifier - Clover
He fears that a young man may replace him soon, that you'll leave him for another

4a. Strength of the relationship -
BOUQUET
The strength of this relationship is the good laugh and good feelings that you two share when together
4b. Weakness of the relationship -
MAN
He is the weaker link. Unreliable, maybe

5a+b Outcome + Angel insights about where the relationship is heading-
CROSSROADS + FISH
The relationship prospects are still not clear. On a crossroad. Whatever decision would be taken, most like likely will be for good ( fish).


This is a very fitting spread. I love P, and he loves me, but it is platonic love, it is a form of true love though. He is married and there's no interference in his marriage, I wouldn't even think things to interfere with that. Mine and his family are all good friends. But I did wonder at some point what would have happened if he were single, and that's why I was curious.
His health is also quite bad probably him as weakness comes from that as well. He has a weak health.

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posted June 30, 2015 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lo,

maybe the Man in the weakness position means that because of his situation - things can't happen between you two.
He loves you dearly, thou

And the Snake + Stork might be that you wish for a change of woman

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posted June 30, 2015 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Lo,

maybe the Man in the weakness position means that because of his situation - things can't happen between you two.
He loves you dearly, thou

And the Snake + Stork might be that you wish for a change of woman



hm that would be unfair towards the lady I wish for his happiness but the spread is spot on!

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posted July 01, 2015 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone up for an exchange?

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DaniPepper87
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posted July 01, 2015 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me???

Can you do for e and future My. Lily???

quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
anyone up for an exchange?

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posted July 01, 2015 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay doky, brb

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posted July 01, 2015 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay doky, brb

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posted July 01, 2015 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1a. What the querent expects will happen Sun and letter

a happy and successful communication and exchange of thoughts.


1b. What her partner expects will happen (Four of Water)
anchor and moon
a long lasting emotional and romantic relationship with a firm commitment. maybe also a creative work collaboration


2a. What the querent hopes will happen (Ace of Water)
road and coffin

the end of indecision. Making a choice that will transform your whole life (possibly to the better, as this is about hopes)


2b. What the other person hopes will happen (Ace of Air)
cross and fox
I think this might mean the end of lies and deception of some sort.


3a. What the querent fears might happen (Four of Earth)
man and bird

that he is all talks but does not mean what he sais? Otherwise maybe you will be afraid of some rumours concerning your man.
gossip.

3a. What the other person fears might happen (Four of Fire)
key and stork
hmm, he fears the change? Or a pregnancy?


4a. Strength of the relationship (The Hierophant)
whip and snake
LOL
The sexual attraction, definitely a strength in that relationship. physical chemistry will be very very high.


4b. Weakness of the relationship (The Moon)
ring and tower
I get the feeling he might still be married, when you meet, or in the process of divorcing which will put a little strain on your relationship in the beginning and make you feel a little isolated.


5a+b Outcome + Angel insights about where the relationship is heading (3 of Pentacles and Children)
house and lily

lol Lily.
a harmonious serene sensual soulmate relationship which involves sharing the same living place , a feeling of belonging and possibly starting your own family.

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posted July 01, 2015 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For Ceri

1a. What the querent expects will happen (Life experience, trad. The Tower)
Stork - Dog
The change of the friendship... Something more deeper, but it isn't that you want the friedship to disappear. You only want it to go deeper...

1b. What her partner expects will happen (Four of Water)
Lily - Fox
Use the experiences he had for the benefit of building a family? Even if the bad situations come, he wants to run to the family nest... awww..


2a. What the querent hopes will happen (Ace of Water)
Letter - Styche
For this combo, I usually say that is the end of the communication, BUT I got the feeling of straight communication, saying what they need to say, do not go in circles.


2b. What the other person hopes will happen (Ace of Air)
Cross - Snake
Kundalini awakening??? Interesting how this image came to me. As it a religious cult in the ancient times... But for the Kundalini energy to be activated, the couple need to be in a true union, so I think it is true in this spread. Luck girl!


3a. What the querent fears might happen (Four of Earth)
Ring - Mice
That the relationship ruins, with idiot worries, with someone more in the middle of you.


3a. What the other person fears might happen (Four of Fire)
Rider - Heart
Someone more comes and takes your heart. An enemy of the heart.


4a. Strength of the relationship (The Hierophant)
Stars - Coffin
The transformations it may bring to you, making you a better people and the energy is very pure here


4b. Weakness of the relationship (The Moon)
Clouds - Whip
Indecisions and pain caused by the indecision. Seems like after you clear things, the bad weather comes again.


5a+b Outcome + Angel insights about where the relationship is heading (3 of Pentacles and Children)
Ways - Mountain
A lot of difficult things in the way, making you always go apart from each other. But the same road that leads you to distance from each other can take you back one day.... Don't loose your hopes!!

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posted July 01, 2015 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks, dear.

Actually I noticed him being less than charmed when I seem to focus my attention on other men as well.
At two occasions I was wearing a ring, just jewellery, but the only finger I feel comfortable wearing rings on, is the one reserved for wedding rings. and both times I caught him staring at my hand (I noticed when I suddenly started feeling uneasy and hte need to hide my hands behind my back, which was so irrational. lol) and looked quite startled and then the temperature dropped about 10 degrees or so.
And the most bizarre thing is HE is the one being married.

But seriously, he is not going to expect me to sit around and wait for him and not keep my options open, is he?
I mean if someone else comes along who seems nice and a good choice and interesting and if there is a mutual attraction and sympathy, I am not going to let that chance pass, while chasing behind an (at least presently) impossible dream.
That would be more than just dumb.

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posted July 01, 2015 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh yes, I use sometimes jewelry in this finger too. But I like those that are alike a wedding ring (not in gold, in silver), but the guys think I'm married! I avoid use them while at social interactions...

But you're right: you can't wait forever if one opportunity comes to you! I really don't like this situation of waiting the another make the first move (or in this case, to get separation from his wife). You deserve to be happy with someone who gives you a good love life, not only hopes and nothing happens...

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posted July 01, 2015 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly.

Besides I don`t want to be the reason (or the excuse) for him splitting from his wife.
That never ends well.
Either they stay together or they split, but just because of their own relationship to each other, not because a third party (well at least not when the third party would be me. That is a real slippery slope, I am staying far away from).

For now noone else is on the horizon and I enjoy the little something there is going on between us, but of course that can change pretty quickly.


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posted July 01, 2015 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Life is a rollercoaster ride...

I met my ex in the temple I went in the middle of 2013. I was going there to know the religion, and some help for the fights my mother and grandma were having.... I was in a very tough time, and then it happened...

BTW, I have the feelings that if a man divorce to stay with another woman, who knows if this man will make this again with the new wife??

As I always said at home: once you do, you can do again anytime....

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posted July 01, 2015 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, my thoughts exactly...
on the other hand there are examples where it was not the case.
NOthing`s really predictable I guess.

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posted July 01, 2015 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, Lee

I am now going to do the Truth spread for you and R, aka "Bear".

Here it goes....

1a. What you expect:
BEAR . ha!You hope for the Bear
1b. What he expects:
MAN
He expect to be the only man for you. Da man!
2a. Your hopes:
Bouquet and Snake - You hope for romance, fun and spiritual connection
2b: His hopes:
TOWER - He wants that only you and he exist secluded together. He is very possessive that one.
3a. Your fears:
CLOUDS - you fear uncertainty, problems
3b. His fears:
Crossroads - he obviously doesn't like lurking back and forth, wants a clear path
4a. Strength:
WHIP - oh yeah, the chemistry, the passion
4b: Weakness:
SHIP - are you too separated by the sea, or in different countries?
5 : The Truth:
HEART + CHILD
True Love and innocence

Amen!


( is he a taurus, btw?)

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