posted July 04, 2015 06:03 AM            

What intrigued me about the spread was that the Death card occurred in both spreads, but accompanied by different cards of course.

1st. spread
Queen of Pentacles - Death - Hermit

2nd spread
Death - Knight of Cups - Ace of Cups

How would you see the Death-card in relation to the other cards?
My thoughts were about the 1st card that X is maybe stopping in his tracks so to speak, and listening/ looking within as to evaluate his feelings.

But that is just my take, what is yours?

The spreads are just two examples, but I found them interesting as the Death card was accompanied by such different cards, maybe you have your own experiences?

So far in the past Death when coming up in my spreads has meant a very profound transformation, sort of a milestone, a door closing to what is on the left of the card to open the door to what comes right of the card.

posted July 04, 2015 07:41 AM            

but i would interpret the
first spread: his feelings for the QoP died and he wants to be alone and/or he got a girlfriend/wife and therefore doesn't feel anything for the other woman

posted July 04, 2015 07:45 AM            

If he is a bf or someone you are seeing on a regular (private) basis: his feelings could be under a transformation phase

posted July 04, 2015 08:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:
it would depend on my intuition and the clarifiers i pull (I am a huge fan of clarifiers )

but i would interpret the
first spread: his feelings for the QoP died and he wants to be alone and/or he got a girlfriend/wife and therefore doesn't feel anything for the other woman

second spread:
either he is just interested to his soulmate (the knight looks to the ace of cups) or he is falling for the woman (before he didn't but the death shows a transformation in his feelings).

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posted July 04, 2015 08:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Enneline:

but for the most time: death = no feelings.

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See? That is surprisingly not what I observed about the Death-card. Or at least not as a "default-interpretation".

posted July 04, 2015 08:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
See? That is surprisingly not what I observed about the Death-card. Or at least not as a "default-interpretation".

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posted July 04, 2015 10:11 AM            

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Originally posted by vesta:
Depending on hermit card I sort of look where lantern is as the way forward what ever spirit is shining the light on and as far as she is concerned for him it is in the past she is now in the dark / past.

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That is a very sharp and astute observation about that. Yes it makes sense to see what the lantern is pointing to.

posted July 04, 2015 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
DEath is transformation.
Death is a very strong card hence in a reading about feelings, it denotes very strong feelings. Maybe fear of what the feelings will bring to them - fear of the challenges, maybe it is an impossible attraction, maybe there are blockages from expressing these feelings, etc... maybe it is even hatred if the rest of the cards in the spread are negative.

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posted July 04, 2015 03:40 PM            

For the first spread, if it's RW, the Hermit discovers "death" so most likely an ending. With the Hanged Man, it is clarified, because Death Hanged Man represents: "death sentence".
So I see two options here:

either the QoP is an ex who condemned the Quesited to "death" and he is currently feeling this separation with intensity,but with a cold rational approach (Hermit) reflecting upon it, but most likely discovering it is time to either move on, or that the thing between them is dead, or that he should undertake a profound change to reconnect with this QoP. In this case, I think the spread suggests there must have been strong feelings and a strong relationship between these two people. It looks like a divorce spread.

If it's just a casual encounter, or someone new, chances are the meaning is the one Enneline and Vesta describe: it's a strong message to Y to look at the facts in their true light and consider X has no feelings for them (because, most likely, he is into the QoP).

For the second spread, the QoC provokes a major transformation in Y, leading to falling in love, to strong love feelings. Possibly a soulmate spread, yes.

Translation: "an ending (death) leads to love"

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted July 04, 2015 04:02 PM            

The 2nd spread could be a spread about falling, falling hard for someone, starting to really love someone- BUT only if the man already knows the lady quite well. Otherwise I would interpret it as follows: the queen of cups, (clarifier for the death) the lady in love, gets no love (death) and her man (knight of cups) heads to his real soulmate (ace of cups)

posted July 04, 2015 04:11 PM            

Their presence in an established relationship indicates important things going on on the basis of something strong already existing in there.

Their presence in crushes/new interests. new encounters is actually related to a strong message to the querent, they have no other reason to be there, especially in feeling spreads, for it is obvious a person who doesn't know us intimately for a while cannot actually have romantic feelings for us.

I did see however, strong Majors coming ups in spreads for people who just met and later proved to be soulmates. Not for the feeling question, however. No reason to have strong cards for feelings in new relationships, unless it's that message for the querent.
But I did have strong majors for people asking: "I just met this guy, how our relationship evolves?"...I got let's say Death Ace of Cups Hierophant; the meeting caused or was synchronized with a major change in the other's life and then their relationship evolved as to be the "one".

My point here: the context is everything, with card readings.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted July 04, 2015 04:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
thank you, Leeloo for the very detailed description.

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You're welcome, Ceri The message looks quite strong, in both cases.
Death is always an amazing card, forcing us to go very deep.

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted July 04, 2015 04:22 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

My point here: the context is everything, with card readings.

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Dito

if the couple is married, the first spread shows a female admirer who has not the slightest chance
the second spread would show either (again) that a female admirer disappears or that he had a mistress he doesn't see anymore or that the marriage has grown even stronger

posted July 04, 2015 04:48 PM            

So since the question was about X`s feelings about Y and Z, that is exactly what it answers.
It doesn`t say anything about Y or Z` feelings however, as this is not what has been asked about.

However obviously it only makes sense to ask about someone`s feelings if the two have actually met and are aware of each other.

I mean it does not make really sense to ask if let`s say Brad Pitt (because he was just on TV. lol) has feelings for me, when we have never met nor spoke to each other.

posted July 04, 2015 05:05 PM            

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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

AstroMandala

posted July 04, 2015 05:11 PM            

1st spread:
What does X feel for Y?

2nd spread:
What does X feel for Z?

Those were two separate spreads for separate questions, as I never do a second spread on the same question, cause I feel like I might end up pulling cards for hours until I have a spread I like or expect, and then I can`t believe it anyway.

Sometimes I ask the cards to give me a very clarifying clear answer that even I can understand though, if I am really not sure about a spread, but that was not the case here.

posted July 04, 2015 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I did.

1st spread:
What does X feel for Y?

2nd spread:
What does X feel for Z?

Those were two separate spreads for separate questions, as I never do a second spread on the same question, cause I feel like I might end up pulling cards for hours until I have a spread I like or expect, and then I can`t believe it anyway.

Sometimes I ask the cards to give me a very clarifying clear answer that even I can understand though, if I am really not sure about a spread, but that was not the case here.

Like saying: Tell me the same but with different words, so I understand your answer.

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posted July 04, 2015 05:25 PM            

I remember my aunt got so mad with me, cause when there were these magical eye thingies, it was just basically no effort for me to see the picture hidden in there, it just emerged (at least as long as I did not insistently TRY seeing anything), it just happened for me, almost like a byproduct.
And she was focusing so hard her eyes got all red, and still could not see anything.
the poor woman.
Maybe it is because of the condition of my eyesight (corneal irregularity and hyperopic).

posted July 04, 2015 05:29 PM            

If anyone`s game to want to pull a few cards for me, well my first question would be: Where do the scratches on my back stem from, I noticed this morning?