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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 17, 2015 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't post your reading in the initial thread I've been trying for a while, so here it is.

GK, your son

6 of cups 5 of cups 5 of wands Sun Ace of wands

It’s interesting I drew a numerological connotation for him as well.

He is number 5.

5 if also flanking the spread, by substraction.

I’m sure I also drew the 6 of cups because he is your son, the child .

I see here how his passage from childhood to teenage years or adulthood may be a bit difficult. I see here the Scorpio side you mentioned. There will be soul searching and maybe bi-polar moments and a temporary sense of loss or losing one’s direction. But everything will be stabilized with the powerful energy of Sowilo The second part of his life will get better and better…does he have a Cap ASC, or something similar in Cap, perhaps the MC?

What about Leo or 5th house?

There is a lot of energy, drive and creativity coming from the 5 of wands and the upcoming cards. His entire emotional energy, so typical for Scorpio, all that Pluto volcano will eventually come out through direct action and creation. He will know pure happiness and he will recover and find the joy of childhood, an Age of Innocence. He will know and experience the wonder of the world, the miracle of life. Maybe he will actually work in a field where he is a giver of life. Or he will create and implement ideas. It’s an alchemical process so typical for the number 5, the number of the magical act.

His life will be an adventure.

Your son is a Creator Innovator.

The number 5 is the most dynamic and energetic of all the single-digit numbers. It is unpredictable, always in motion and constantly in need of change. Although it is molded from an almost equal mix of masculine and feminine qualities, in general the 5 is slightly more feminine -- albeit a daring, tomboyish kind of feminine, with nothing demure or submissive about her.
The 5 is extremely independent in mind and soul. She is an adventurer and a risk-taker who has a hard time staying in one place, in one job, in one house or in one relationship. Change is an absolute necessity, and yet the 5 is surprisingly loyal. The 2 and 6 are the most harmonious relationship numbers but either one will, when temptation is strong enough, cheat on his or her partner. The 5 will not. The 5 may break off a relationship due to her restless nature, but while in a relationship she will not deceive her partner. However, when she is not in a relationship she considers herself free to date anyone she chooses and has no problem going out with a different person every day of the week (and you better not try to tell her she should limit herself in any way, at least not if you want to stay on her good side).
The 5 generally does not find a suitable career until she has tried a number of different jobs, many of them lasting barely long enough to warrant a full paycheck, especially if there is any kind of routine involved; boredom sets in almost immediately and the 5 simply cannot put up with anything predictable or repetitive. But again, the 5 will surprise her friends and family once she does find her niche, usually after age 30, as her focus, energy and quick mind help her scramble up the ladder faster and with less apparent effort than anyone else. Many 5s take up careers that require travel or otherwise offer a change of environment regularly, becoming tour guides, salespeople, small business owners, independent consultants, lawyers and so forth.
The 5 can adjust quickly to pretty much anything coming her way, and that includes the work environment. On top of that, the 5 is usually tall and good-looking, charming, and charismatic -- all qualities that support her in her career once she sets her mind to it. In addition, the 5 is versatile, adaptable, smart, progressive and tolerant. Anything conventional bores her, while she is drawn to the eccentrics and misfits of society. She is a social creature, funny and uplifting, and very good at making others feel comfortable around her. She is generally well-liked and is often surrounded with friends and acquaintances. However, she also tends to polarize people and those that don't like her tend to be the uptight, self-righteous and judgmental kind.
But perhaps the most dominating trait in the 5 is her uncompromising demand for freedom in thought and action. She makes up her own mind, rebels against any and all dogmas and ideologies, and does not allow herself to be absorbed into clubs, cults, religious sects or ideologies of any kind. Her adventurous, daredevil nature may get her to ride motorcycles but she will not ride with a large group. Chances are she will be rather opinionated and passionate about political issues, but she will not be a member of any party or be nailed down in any way. She changes her mind regularly, but never without good reason. She cannot be controlled but she is flexible and can be converted if the argument is solid and makes sense. She has a healthy sense of humor and doesn't sweat the little things, but she carries her heart on her sleeve and it is not at all uncommon for her to give her heart to the wrong person, as she is not the greatest judge of character.
On the negative side, she can be selfish, thoughtless and irresponsible. She rarely considers the future beyond tomorrow or next week, and worrying is not in her nature. She tends to procrastinate and can be unreliable. However, the most common downfall for the 5 is a tendency to experiment with sex, drugs, alcohol and other weaknesses of the flesh. A desire for instant gratification can be her downfall; add to that a sense of invulnerability, lack of discipline and restraint, and you have a recipe for disaster.
The shape of numbers reflect their nature, and just as the 4 is square and grounded, the 5 is a symbol of dynamic motion. The 4 is controlled, measured, synchronized, and static. The 5 is random energy, elastic and constantly in motion.
Symbolism
• It is the number of the harmony and the balance. It is also the number of the divine grace.
• The number 5 is a characteristic of the man. First, according to the Cabal, it is the number of the perfect Man (got rid from his animal side). According to the Bible, it is the symbol of the Man-God by the five wounds of the Christ on cross (for this reason, it is also considered as the number of the grace). But it is also associated to the man in general (2 + 3) having an unstable character of duality, 2, in spite of his divinity, 3. The 5 is also found on the human body: the five fingers of the hand and feet, the five senses (touch, taste, sense of smell, hearing and the sight), the five members (two arms, two legs and the head, the bust being the center), the five bones forming the metacarpus, the metatarse and the brain-pan, etc.
• Considerated as the mediator between God and the universe, the five is regarded as a symbol of the universe.
• Symbol of the will's divine.
• Symbol of the perfection in the Mayas.
• Symbol of the incarnated conscience - 4, Matter, + 1, Spirit.
• Symbolize the force and the limits of the man in his control on the Universe.
• According to Thibaut Of Langres, the number 5 is attributed to the world for some reasons. First because the world is moved following a circular movement, just as the 5 when we multiply it by itself or by the other odd ones returns periodically. Also it is called in this sense "periodical". Five years make a lustre, from "lustrare" which means "to make the turn". On the other hand, 5 is attributed to the world due to the fact that it is composed of the first even and odd, 2 and 3. The world indeed, that is to say the whole of things, increases by the male and the female - even is female and odd male.
• In China, it is the number of the Center in addition to be considered as a male number amulet.
• Number of the life and the nature, according to Aeppli.
• Being the sum or rather the union of the first female number and the first male number, it is the symbol of creative life and erotic love according to Jung. But this one interprets also this number as that of the revolt.
• A nuptial number for the Etruscans and Romans because it is the first number resulting from the addition the first female number and the first male number. For the same reason, C. Agrippa calls it the number of the marriage.
• For H.- P. Blavatsky, "5 is the spirit of life and human love."
Bible
• The five wounds of Jesus on the cross.
• The five parts of the clothing remaining of Jesus during his crucifixion after the soldiers had made four parts of his dress, plus his tunic which they did not tear. (Jn 19,23)
• Saint Paul declares that by five times he received the 39 lashes from the Jews. (2 Co 11,24)
• The five mad and wise virgins of the parable of Jesus. (Mt 25,1)
• The five porticos of the pool of Bethesda. (Jn 5,2)
• The five pebbles which made it possible to small king David to kill the giant Goliath.
• The five kinds of animals that God asked Abraham to present to him to conclude with him an alliance: a heifer of three years old, a goat of three years old, a ram of three years old, a turtledove and a young dove. (Gn 12, 5-18)
• The five books of the Torah (the Law) according to the Judaism that corresponds to the number of the first books of the Bible. The book of the Lamentations of Jeremiah contains also five chapters.
General
• The five wounds of Egypt sent by God by the intermediary of Moses, according to the Koran: the flood, grasshoppers, lice, frogs and blood.
• The five paths leaving from the Calvary and directing to the whole world, according to visions' of Ann-Catherine Emmerick.
• In the visions of Maria Valtorta, Jesus classifies the kinds of love in five categories, each one of different power and which are in the order: the love of God, the paternal or maternal love, the conjugal love, the love of the neighbor, the love of the science and the work. The three firsts are of higher power, while the last three are of lower power. But these six divisions are reduced to five because the love of the neighbor and the conjugal love are of identical nature even if they have not the same force, the conjugal love being indeed only a particular case of the love of the neighbor.
• In the revelations received by Don Stefano Gobbi, of the Marian Movement of Priests, it is question of the five famous mountains climbed by Jesus: it is on the mountain that he promulgated the evangelical law of Beatitudes; it is on the Thabor mount that he lived the ecstasy of his transfiguration; it is to Jerusalem, city located on the mountain, that he gathered one's people for the Last Supper and that he passed painful hours of his internal agony; it is on the mountain of the Calvary that he consumed his sacrifice, on the mount of Olives that happened his definitive detachment of one's people by his glorious ascension to the heaven.
• A rosary of the Virgin Mary has five mysteries meditated.
• The practice of the five first Saturdays of the month, asked initially by the Virgin Mary to Lucy of Fatima on October 10, 1925.
• In Italy, in Lanciano, exists a reliquary, since the 13th century, where is found a miraculous devoted host. While celebrating the mass, a priest came to doubt the real presence of Jesus-Christ in the Eucharist; and, under his eyes, the devoted host becomes a slice of flesh, and the wine, blood which coagulated in five clots. The analyses, undertaken between November 18, 1970 and March 4, 1971, by professors Limoli and Bertelli, from the Faculty of Medicine of Siena, in Italy, concluded, after examination of the host and the blood preserved since the 13th century, that they had no modification! The flesh is a slice of human cardiac muscle, resulting from the myocardium. The blood corresponds to the blood of which it would have been taken out of a human being the same day of the examination. And the five clots of blood, of unequal size, weigh all the same weight each one separately; and all together, put in the same plate of the balance, the weight remains identical without variation.
• The five commandments of Buddha Gautama: You will not kill; You will not steal; You will not be impudic; You will not lie; You will not drink intoxicating liquors. Buddhism distinguishes also five great evils: the ignorance, the anger, the desire, the malevolence and the envy.
• In the mythology of "Dogons" we find some themes which seem to remind some beliefs of others religions. For example, the bad angel Ogo revolts over Lucifer after having killed his twin sister as Cain had killed his brother Abel. The good angel Nomo, twin brother of Ogo, is crucified to save men from sin, but he resuscitates five days later, period as sacred as the week of Easter for Christians, and became the week of five days which is still practiced nowadays by the "Dogons".
• The five couples of Adam and Eve that they would have had there simultaneously and this, in five different places on the planet, on the five continents, like prototypes of five different races, according to Edgar Cayce. However, according to the mythology of "Dogons", it is rather four amphibious couples men and women that the god Ama would have created and placed on Earth. Those first humans were immortal, but their descendants became mortals because of their sins.
• According to visions of Ann-Catherine Emmerich, the forbidden fruits of the Tree of the Knowledge of the good and the evil of the Garden in Eden hung by five bunches.
• In the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus mentions that there are "five trees in the paradise that do not move neither Summer nor winter and their leaves do not fall. Those who will know them won't die." (log 19.7-11)
• The five fundamental virtues: wisdom, love, truth, goodness and justice.
• The five commandments of the Church: to sanctify the feastdays, to assist the mass on Sunday and the feastdays, to confess his sins at least once a year, to receive the communion at least during Easter, and to pay the tithe to the Church - instead of that, others versions speak about the respect of the obligatory fastdays. The Church recommends also five acts to believers before the Communion: the act of faith, love, humility, desire and hope.
• The visions of the saints are classified according to five categories: beatific or intuitive vision, "abstract" vision, intellectual vision, imaginary vision and the corporal vision.
• The trip of Mary and Joseph to Bethlehem, for the birth of Jesus, lasted five days. They arrived on a Saturday, around four o'clock in the evening, according to visions of Mary Agreda.
• The five pillars of the Islam: profession of faith, CHAHADA; ritual prayer, SALAT; legal alms, ZAKAT; fast of the Ramadan, SAWM; and the pilgrimage to Mecca, HADJDJ.
• The Greeks philosophers admitted five principles in the man: body, animal soul, psyche, intelligence and divine spirit.
• The five cycles of the Chinese lunar calendar of twelve lunar years each.
• The five elements of the Chinese theory: water, fire, wood, metal, ground.
• For the Tibetans, the five elements connected to five geometrical forms: the cube to the the ground, the sphere to the water, the cone to the fire, the half-circle to the air, and the flame to the ether.
• The five "takbirs" or formula of prayer, in the Islamic religion. The Moslems insist that the prayer is done five times every day. Let us mention that Mahomet was five years old when his Abdallah father died.
• The five suns or eras at the Aztecs.
• In Hebrew, the number 5 means "seizure, contraction like the five fingers". It is, told Fabre D'Oliver, the matter seized by the most material of the five senses.
• There is in Quebec 5 archbishoprics.
• The spacial representation of the number 5 is the pyramid (5 summits with 5 faces) and also the pentagram (5 sides) so the man would be included there.
• The five Zener cards used for some tests of parapsychology. The graphics of each cards corresponds to the first five numbers.
• The five lines of the stave in music.
• The five reigns: elemental, mineral, vegetable, animal and human.
• The five oceans (Pacific, Atlantic, Indian, Arctic and Antarctic) with the five parts of the geographical world: Europe, Asia, Africa, America, Oceania.
• In the continuation of fundamental numbers of 1 to 9, 5 is in the center, as it is in the center of the magic square using the first 9 numbers.
• Anniversary of marriage: wood's wedding.
Gematria
• Numerical value of the Hebrew letter He (the Not-Me) representing the passive principle by excellence. This letter represents, according to Charrot, "a solar ray pouring on the earth its beneficial rain of life" and it symbolizes the universal life, the breath of the man, the air, the spirit, the soul, all what is stimulating and vivifying. For the cabalist Eleazar of Worm, the letter "He" symbolizes "the breath" .


The meaning of the Hierophant in his case (5) must be related to challenging the status quo.


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I seem to have loved you in numberless forms...

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LeeLoo2014
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posted August 18, 2015 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG you are right, it is gone

I read your post with much pleasure. I said this sounds like such a great idea, about the piano, and that I wish for you two to have this soon

I also said I wanted to ask about ADD seeing 5 of wands and the 5 and the energy there, but I thought it's improper.
I think him being active and involved in projects he is passionate about, especially creative, should solve the problem.

I also said I am 7 life path myself: we are very private, mysterious people, even to ourselves, and this sometimes makes us feel lonely. and more sensitive than we show, because of being so private.

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posted August 18, 2015 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool. I can read your response!
You can ask those kind of questions to me. I will give you either a honest answer or say at least that I do not want to answer it.

It is a difficult situation sometimes to find a way to guide him and sometimes I think to much. I am just a normal mother that loves her children

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posted August 18, 2015 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have kids, but I can feel this. There is a LOT of energy in his spread and I think the emotional power (depth, intensity) of the 5 of cups - so visible in his Scorpio stellium has this unusual way of turning into fire (no wonder the stellium is on ASC :thumbsup you can see this in the chart, the parellel between his spread and the chart: 6 of cups 5 of cups (which makes for either ace of cups, by substraction, or Justice, number 11)turns into FIRE (ASC ) 5 of wands - Sun - ace of wands, with the wands becoming 6: victory.

It's like a volcano erupting positively and I think what you can do is making or helping him find the channel for the lava

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