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Enneline
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posted January 29, 2016 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to know how high do you estimate the percentage of correct spreads/predictions?

Did reality prove that tarot and lenormand spreads are resonating?

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Ceridwen
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posted January 29, 2016 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not that high. Everytime a prediction comes true is a pleasant surpise for me (as I never expect them to come true).

To be honest for myself I mostly treat them as "reflection-tools", my internal reaction to the interpretation in relation to the question pretty much contains the answer already, doesn`t it?
At least when it comes to psychological questions.

Purely predictive questions it`s different of course.

However I AM surprised as to how often they actually do come true; Leeloo and you in particular come to mind (your december and november spreads were much too accurate for comfort. lol)

vacant also had very often hit it for me, too, with the cartomancy spreads.

And I remember just how many of you were right on my collective message spread for the august-thing, even though it was completely not foreseeable for me at that point, and I internally rejected those spreads as "too good to be true" or "too unlike me", yet they did come true to a degree that was alarming.


I am sure I forget many here, but those were the ones (also T-gem) that came instantly to mind.

But again, always a surprise if a prediction comes true.


Now and then I have surprised myself when doing a reading for someone else, and thinking to myself, this is so far fetched, cannot be true, and the one I was reading for said it was true (without me knowing anything about the background) - that was kinda cool. (but probably coincidental. lol)


But I guess we are more often wrong than right as readers, and also, sometimes people will want a reading to be true so much, that they are trying really hard to "make it fit" their situation somehow. And usually that works, too.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 29, 2016 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are unbelievably accurate.

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Enneline
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posted January 30, 2016 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for my part i can't say that readings are always accurate.

1/3 is simply false
1/3 false interpretation but right cards
1/3 accurate

I would love to tell you that all spreads were accurate but they are not, esp spreads regarding my headhunting project were almost never correct; the same with the professional and financial life.

love issues have often been accurate but not all the time

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posted January 30, 2016 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Enneline:

1/3 false interpretation but right cards


That`s what I am seeing ´sometimes, too.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 30, 2016 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was talking about the potential of divination with cards. When the skills and knowledge are polished, the cards will be at least 90% accurate.

The accuracy of interpretation is always smaller when reading for oneself; there is an unconscious tendency in all of us and stronger for certain personality types to draw the wanted cards for oneself. Or, when drawing for oneself, we tend to see the cards in a more positive light, which leads to inaccuracy of interpretation.

If you meant collective messages here, they are usually very accurate for me, more than 50%, by this I mean the cards, not necessarily the interpretation, also I think that most people playing with cards on LL are very talented interpreters or very intuitive and everyone has always given me a precious insight, even when let's say I thought the cards/interpretation were off, there was always something right about it too, if it makes sense.

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posted January 30, 2016 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the collective message in particular amaze me.
The weekly readings were a bit of "hit and miss" to be honest.

I do agree with you though about drawin for ourselves. Which is why I don`t do it that often and not really put any stock in it if I do. lol

However I also noticed that sometimes interpretations given are coloured by the interpreter`s mindset or belief-system, the cards however are usually spot on.

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posted January 30, 2016 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's true, Ceri, especially with some matters that trigger a strong response in us, some limits we have, it's hard to keep your objectivity.

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posted January 30, 2016 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for St@r2013     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The percentage of readings I had vs how many were accurate - yeah I guess maybe 1/3. For some reason I would get many similar readings during the same time - for example, I would get many readings saying I'd meet someone in September/October - and that would never happen... but how do they all get the same time frame?

My readings as well are probably 1/3 accurate - sometimes my cards are just very positive but the outcome is not... sometimes looking back I see how I misinterpreted the cards...

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posted January 30, 2016 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
That's true, Ceri, especially with some matters that trigger a strong response in us, some limits we have, it's hard to keep your objectivity.

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posted January 30, 2016 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is why I am still doing my daily draw of lenormand cards, they help me understand the meaning better.
For example I noticed that CROSS usually comes up at important days, but which are not necessarily negative, just basically leaving a grave impact emotionally, in fact, especially if followed by the Moon, it seems to highlight a suprising sudden fulfilling emotional experience and appreciation.

Another thing I noticed though is that often the cards will sometimes reflect more on the day before, not always the present day. but it is not a rule. lol
And sometimes the card are sort of talking about the most random of things.


Example
Well today I had

RIDER - STARS - HOUSE

P just left the message (Rider) on his facebook (Stars) that he is "on the road again", so leaving home (house).

LOL
And like sometimes Leno lets me lean back and say: "You can`t be seriously zooming in on THAT random thing, right? There MUST be some more CEri-specific wonderful star-like things happening today, after all it is MY spread. lol"


But so far I`d think that is it.

Of course it could also simply mean

Spending much too much time at home in front of my computer today (house) composing messages (rider) about astrology (Stars).

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LeeLoo2014
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posted January 30, 2016 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your messages are always a gain for us, Ceri, still remember to take care of yourself too with some actual stargazing perhaps

"Saturday, January 30
Five planets adorn the morning sky this week — the same quintet of “wanderers” (Mercury to Saturn) our ancient ancestors recognized as being different from the background stars. Head outside about 45 minutes before sunrise and you will see the solar system objects spread out across approximately 115°. Start with Jupiter in the west-southwest, then pick up Mars nearly due south, Saturn climbing in the southeast, brilliant Venus to its lower left, and lastly Mercury hanging low in the twilight. The waning Moon slides through the area all week; this morning, it appears between Jupiter and Mars and just 5° north of the 1st-magnitude star Spica in the constellation Virgo. Of academic interest only, Mercury passes 0.5° north of Pluto (invisible in twilight, of course) this morning.

The Moon reaches apogee, the farthest point in its orbit around Earth, at 4:10 a.m. EST. It then lies 251,377 miles (404,553 kilometers) from Earth’s center.

Sunday, January 31
Last Quarter Moon officially arrives at 10:28 p.m. EST. It will rise around 1 a.m. local time tomorrow morning and climb some 35° high in the south as dawn approaches. During this period, our half-lit satellite lies among the background stars of Libra. Mars lies just 3° south of the Moon and 1° north of Libra’s second-brightest star, magnitude 2.8 Zubenelgenubi (Alpha [α] Librae). The magnitude 0.8 Red Planet stands out most for its color. A telescope reveals a fairly bland disk that measures 7" across.
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Monday, February 1
Two dim solar system objects lie near each other in February’s evening sky. The easier to spot is 6th-magnitude Uranus. It lurks in southern Pisces and appears some 40° high in the southwest as darkness settles in. To find it, first locate the Great Square of Pegasus, which now orients to the western horizon like a baseball diamond. Pick out Beta (β and Gamma (γ Pegasi, the stars at the right and left corners, respectively, of this asterism. A line from Beta to Gamma spans 20°. Extend this line 15° more and you’ll be in Uranus’ vicinity. Center magnitude 4.3 Epsilon (ε Piscium in your binoculars and Uranus will show up 2° due south of the star. This evening, the 8th-magnitude asteroid Vesta resides 6° south of Uranus. Under a dark sky, both should appear in the same field of view through 7x50 binoculars.

Tuesday, February 2
For those who believe in folklore, the fate of winter rests on the shoulders of the groundhog. If the furry rodent sticks his head out of his burrow this morning and sees his shadow, we’ll have six more weeks of winter. But if the weather is cloudy, it means spring is right around the corner. What does this have to do with astronomy? Groundhog Day celebrates one of the four so-called cross-quarter days, which mark the midpoints between the solstices and equinoxes. February 2 falls approximately midway between the winter solstice and the vernal equinox."

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posted January 30, 2016 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To be honest it depends on who reads for me. If someone is starting off they're not going to be accurate 100% of the time.

I think it also depends on the emotional state of the querent at the time of the reading. Timing is also a thing. About 3 years ago i had a reading, i was relaxed and didnt have any expectations i didn't have a strong belief in this stuff then. I just asked for general personal life for that half year. The man who did the reading for me told me alot of stuff that didnt resonate at the time and he said his readings usually go into months rather than years. I brushed his reading off but i did get another one from him later on lol and he saw the same thing. Anyway what he saw as present actually happened a year later and his outcome looks like it is only about to manefest now. If it happens i will not doubt this stuff again. Leeloo also told me some of the stuff this man told me and enneline bits too in one of her readings. I checked my solar returns and transits from the past and things make sense.

I think in many cases timings are very off. But of course there are readings that have turned out to be wrong. Some readings have been off but the cards were correct too. I try not to put too much importance or emphasis on readings i get but i like linking stuff and deciphering.

Pls dont quote might edit later

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posted January 30, 2016 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that in general the readings would tend to be accurate if one remembered more often than the cards show explicitly current, imminent affairs (and anything can interfere with that) & asked more about the querent's situation (in terms that doesn't allow for cold reading, jeopardising the importance of having a context).

^ and good, competent people can roll with bad cards and get away with it.

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posted January 30, 2016 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's hard to say really. Like Ceri, I use the cards for insight. Guided advice more so than straight up prediction. There are times when I am eerily accurate about things that people tell me about later. Timing is something that I haven't quite worked out and I'm not quite sure how.

I do often read for myself and have learned when the cards are telling me to ease up. I will grumble at them and then put them away because I know I'm being too emotional at the time. Sometimes I let that emotion guide me in the reading, but more open ended, thinking about the situation, what I'd like to happen even if its not necessarily what will happen. Those types usually come up fairly accurate for me. If I have trouble or its a new deck I will consult another deck to see if there is a similar theme.

Numbers and images make an impact on my interpretation greatly. Yes there is a general theme in the card but bc of imagery some deck give me completely different insight. I remember someone here had asked me about a work think and in this one deck the 2 of wands had 2 people in it and so I took that 2 people being involved in this question, which she later confirmed.

Most recently I asked about a particular guy and got 1 of pents, 10 of pents, and either world or something else, and I new that it meant the cycle, the karma between us had ended. Yes the 1 and 10 are great and positive cards but when following the sequence of the numbers was very telling. It also reflects the situation itself. I don't feel any particular strife or upset about this.

Also court card sequences. In one reading about school I did a celtic cross for myself and started off with the knight of wands, ended with the page of wands. This is a sort a regression, a change of path. I ended up deciding to quit for now. Ever since then reading into the progression of the cards is really striking to me.

So my consensus is that mostly it takes time to develop one's skills but more than that, like a niche in their readings.

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Ceridwen
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posted January 31, 2016 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Leeloo,
I will.


my daily spread for today looks quite worrisome


Coffin - Heart - Rider


Mmh, usually the day cards are toned down a little in meaning (though I once had coffin in my spread the day I learned about a surprising death of a colleague).

Well, we`ll see.

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