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VacantGazer
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posted April 10, 2016 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello

I did the Tetraktys Spread for myself and got The Devil for the following position;

"The Sustainer Card depicts that which helping you remain balanced and healthy."

I know the devil is not always a negative card but in alot of cases it can be unhealthy so im wondering how to apply it in this instance.

I have some thoughts;
1. I feel at ease when i feel in control of my life(the chains) or when there is nothing controlling me(shackles are loose).
2. Having fun and not taking things too seriously
3. Exploring my negative qualities and work on them?
4. Breaking away from negative patterns and habits - there are chains but they are loose so i can break free if i really want to.

I'm inclined to think it is the second or fourth point - more on the 4th. I was wondering has any different opinions to me?

Thanks

pls dnt quote might edit later

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GeminiKarat
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posted April 11, 2016 05:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would make a connection to the 10th position.
10. The Premise represents the factors that form the the foundation for the entire spread.
(mine was King of wands )

I have turned the spread upside down and in this position the devil would be clarified by the light(#8) and dark(#9).

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VacantGazer
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posted April 11, 2016 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks GK! Will post my cards later. My premise was queen wands

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VacantGazer
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posted April 11, 2016 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These were mine, i will write my interpretation later. So my Light and dark was HP and 6 wands rev. What were yours (if you dont mind sharing) ?

The Fire Card represents your creative force, will, and ambition. - The Lovers
The Air Card Your current strategies and thoughts concerning your goals- 3 Pents Rev
The Water Card explores your emotional self.- 2 Cups
The Earth Card concerns how you dealing with everyday life.- 4 swords
The Creator Card explores that which drives you in new directions.- Knight of Wands
The Sustainer Card depicts that which helping you remain balanced and healthy.- The Devil
The Destroyer Card identifies that which must be jettisoned, so you can move forward.- Empress Reversed
The Light Card represents the cosmic force which is guiding you towards fulfillment.- High Priestess
The Dark Card represents the cosmic reaction to your being.- 6 wands rev
The Premise represents the factors that form the the foundation for the entire spread.- Queen of wands

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posted April 11, 2016 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some positive keywords I attribute to the Devil - Ambition, dedication, hard work

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GeminiKarat
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posted April 12, 2016 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure. Here is my layout.

I will be back soon.

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GeminiKarat
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posted April 12, 2016 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The interesting part is that I thought yesterday that the cards The Lovers and 2 of cups should be changed. I rrrrrrrrreally love the 2 of cups.

It will take my mind a little bit longer for your card

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posted April 12, 2016 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just to double check with you, your number 10 is the bottom card and then they go from left to right(9, 8, 7, 6.....etc) ? eg. Strength is number 4(The Earth Card ) and 4 wands is no. 1(fire card)?

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posted April 12, 2016 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But isnt the NN a goal we have to reach? Mine is in Gemini maybe in that respect the lovers card makes sense there? its a gemini card.

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posted April 12, 2016 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The queen is a beautiful card on its own. In this card is as black cat. Sometimes there is a dark side within everybody and everyone. High up on a horse (=page,knight) the fall hurts and there comes a disruptive quality with it along. The Devil can help to face the dark side and see the light. As there is the earth and fire symbol in this card represented. I tend to say:

It is #3 and #4 in a combination.

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posted April 12, 2016 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VacantGazer:
Just to double check with you, your number 10 is the bottom card and then they go from left to right(9, 8, 7, 6.....etc) ? eg. Strength is number 4(The Earth Card ) and 4 wands is no. 1(fire card)?

Yepp.

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GeminiKarat
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posted April 12, 2016 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VacantGazer:
But isnt the NN a goal we have to reach? Mine is in Gemini maybe in that respect the lovers card makes sense there? its a gemini card.

I will come back


That is true. My cards reflect more the money woman that I am at the moment. That is not very spiritual .

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posted April 18, 2016 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a try let me know how i do

[/b]The Fire Card represents your creative force, will, and ambition.[/b]
4 wands - completeness, you dont like not finishing things.

[/b]The Air Card Your current strategies and thoughts concerning your goals[/b]
10 swords - you have so many thoughts that pop out of know where, perhaps you ignore most of them.


[/b]The Water Card explores your emotional self.[/b]
2 cups - balanced. Emotionally fulfilled by spending time with loved ones.


[/b]The Earth Card concerns how you dealing with everyday life.[/b]
strength - alot of order and discipline.


[/b]The Creator Card explores that which drives you in new directions.[/b]
ace of pents - learning, exploring.


[/b]The Sustainer Card depicts that which helping you remain balanced and healthy.[/b]
10 wands - you like being busy?


[/b]The Destroyer Card identifies that which must be jettisoned, so you can move forward.[/b]
7 pentacles - perhaps it means learning to balance things ie work/money/exercise?


[/b]The Light Card represents the cosmic force which is guiding you towards fulfillment.[/b]
Judgement - Being open to ideas, using your own judgement.

[/b]The Dark Card represents the cosmic reaction to your being.[/b]
5 Wands - a challenges/tests that you have the strength to overcome and learn from

[/b]The Premise represents the factors that form the the foundation for the entire spread.[/b]
King of Wands - activity and creativity?

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GeminiKarat
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posted April 20, 2016 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The Fire Card represents your creative force, will, and ambition.
4 wands - completeness, you dont like not finishing things.
----> I prefer: I love to start things. I do not like routine.

The Air Card Your current strategies and thoughts concerning your goals
10 swords - you have so many thoughts that pop out of know where, perhaps you ignore most of them.


The Water Card explores your emotional self.
2 cups - balanced. Emotionally fulfilled by spending time with loved ones.

The Earth Card concerns how you dealing with everyday life.
strength - alot of order and discipline.
It is true for me, but according to astrology I am indecisive.

The Creator Card explores that which drives you in new directions.
ace of pents - learning, exploring.
. It is the fire in me and I will always learn.

The Sustainer Card depicts that which helping you remain balanced and healthy.
10 wands - you like being busy?
I like that more.

The Destroyer Card identifies that which must be jettisoned, so you can move forward.
7 pentacles - perhaps it means learning to balance things ie work/money/exercise?
I guess the term long-term is my personal destroyer. My live is movement and daily routine is my personal "destroyer"

The Light Card represents the cosmic force which is guiding you towards fulfillment.
Judgement - Being open to ideas, using your own judgement.

The Dark Card represents the cosmic reaction to your being.
5 Wands - a challenges/tests that you have the strength to overcome and learn from
I like yours more than mine.

The Premise represents the factors that form the the foundation for the entire spread.
King of Wands - activity and creativity?

I liked those words and there were some wands in the spread. In my case they made perfect sense in the position they landed.
Authority figure · Financial gain · Honest and trustworthy · Mediation · Professional

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Randall
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posted April 21, 2016 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
That is true. My cards reflect more the money woman that I am at the moment. That is not very spiritual .

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athenegoddess
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posted April 21, 2016 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would think since the devil also represents human life and being separated from God what is keeping you healthy is your human self and its something you need to experience to remain balanced in the world.

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VacantGazer
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posted April 22, 2016 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VacantGazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks athenegoddess and empress for your inputs. Would make sense there too, thanks


Thanks for the feedback GK, though what do you mean when you say "I like yours more than mine."?

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