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Topic: Help With Interpretation of the Devil
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FmVenusWLove Knowflake Posts: 404 From: It's cold here Registered: Jan 2015
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posted June 09, 2016 09:28 PM
Hi all, I'm hoping to tap into some of your Tarot wisdom I did a reading for a friend that I don't know how to interpret. I tried to read on a past life with her husband - I do believe they definitely had at least one past life together so I felt strongly that an in depth reading on their connection would be helpful to her. I pulled the Devil to describe "the nature of their past life connection" and the Heirophant reversed to describe the karma that was created between the two in the previous life and carried over into this one. Their current spiritual lesson is represented by "Death" with the advice card as Knight of Wands reversed. Any thoughts on the story this is telling? I have an idea, but I worry my interpretation may be overly negative. I don't want to deliver a shocking reading without being certain that this is indeed what the cards are saying. IP: Logged |
GeminiKarat Moderator Posts: 2749 From: Austria Registered: Jun 2014
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posted June 10, 2016 02:40 AM
Just a thought. I am not an expert.They have been chained together(=Devil) in an traditional school(=Heirophant). They were miserable students and did not learn the lesson. It is there lesson today to find a creative way(=Knight of wands) to break those ties and transform(=Death). IP: Logged |
Chryseis Knowflake Posts: 1180 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2012
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posted June 10, 2016 05:12 AM
Hi FVWL,I would interpret this as no past life connection. The devil card is only talking about one person. Their past life is in a city/big town constructed near water, fairly murky water with lots of boardwalk piers/wharfs interconnecting around fairly poorly but solidly constructed buildings that have the water soaking up the big beams that are like stilts for some of these water's edge buildings. There are stone buildings further back from the edge however the mini precinct, almost, around the wharf edge has a lot of wheeling and dealing in and around it with a colourful bunch of characters living or frequenting there. The person I think is a male in that life or a manly female that wore trousers. They have a pox which is evident on their face and the hair is cropped and just above the shoulders and not very well kept though not too unusual for the area. They will sometimes run at children and others to scare them with their poxy face and wild look. The person seems like a homosexual however it is hard to work out the combo of their liaisons with partners and whether the partners are male or female either. They are chiefly independent in their lifestyle and even know a few people higher up but at the lower end of the higher ups maybe. The Hierophant reversed reiterates that there is no past life connection and nothing to account for or address between them. The Death card indicates that both people do indeed have transformations to make and lessons to learn and they both have kind of like debts to offset. The Knight of Wands reversed says that they both have a similar debt to pay off regarding children. They have to be more responsible (so I'm not sure if it was just about scaring them with the pox covered face for this main person or whether there were other issues). The other person has a callous side where they have a history at some point of being sneering and kind of mean about kids and others who are living normally. The hope and lightheartedness kind of disgusted this person and they would be sort of sneery and vindictive. Mimicking in a nasty voice what they overhear someone saying and then laughing meanly and saying something nastily mean about the child/person. IP: Logged |
FmVenusWLove Knowflake Posts: 404 From: It's cold here Registered: Jan 2015
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posted June 10, 2016 11:13 AM
Wow, great feedback everyone! Thank you!Chryseis: Such a thorough look into these cards! Are you using intuition or are you getting all of this from the cards? I pulled a few cards early in another spread which would lead me to believe that my friend was male in this past life. So interesting that you picked up on that - I also saw someone who had many affairs and may have been irresponsible in relations with others. One thing - can you tell me more about why the Heirophant reversed leads you to believe that there definitely wasn't any debt or karma created between the two? Just need more clarification. Thank you both! IP: Logged |
Chryseis Knowflake Posts: 1180 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2012
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posted June 11, 2016 10:06 PM
Hi FVWL, Yes well when I'm looking at the cards there will often be imagery and scenes attached. However I'm sometimes way off I think perhaps and there can also be different perspectives on the same cards which does kind of make sense because there are probably levels to what the cards are expressing, whether everyday or more psychological etc. A technique I will use are keywords for a card and this will enable me to get a 'hook' that then can expand into the other information such as imagery, sensations, etc. I'm not sure if I naturally looked to the keyword first or not for the Hierophant reversed in this question though it is still consistent with a keyword for this card. So there are several keywords in fact for the card and upright meanings revolve around kind of like the wisdom advice and guidance of morality, religions etc. So ideas around approval and living according to established traditional ways of doing things based on things like precepts, religion, how people live well with one another etc. One book of keywords included 'relationship' and I know other keywords include alliance, marriage, servitude, commitment. So its the kind of relationship that has an emphasis on structure that is acceptable to a group of people that probably have a hierarchy of advisors and people who uphold and contribute to the guidance and support of living by such codes etc. So when it is reversed this qualifies that there is perhaps no relationship or that it is fleeting and there is no sort of business between the two. There was no reason for them to be involved. I guess there may have been a minimal liaison that sparks a minor necessity to reconnect and I can not be sure that there wasn't however the overally impression is that they have no importance between them that would be marked by any significance. I guess if there were other cards with it then the meaning might be modified. I just went by a definite impression and it makes sense by what I was seeing from the first card that there was no significant involvement if any in a previous life. I'm not really knowledgeable on the true nature of spiritual debts and karma however I do often see an indication that there is some kind of phenomena such as that and also that there are lessons in awareness in our lives. IP: Logged |
GeminiKarat Moderator Posts: 2749 From: Austria Registered: Jun 2014
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posted June 12, 2016 04:49 AM
^^^^I do like to read your words.IP: Logged |
Chryseis Knowflake Posts: 1180 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2012
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posted June 12, 2016 08:41 PM
Thank you ^;^ IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 4757 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 13, 2016 12:46 AM
The nature of their past life - the Devil The karma that was created in past life - The HierophantThey had an illicit relationship / affair in a past life which was condemned in their social circle. A liason outside of their marriage. IP: Logged |
Chryseis Knowflake Posts: 1180 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2012
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posted June 13, 2016 05:18 PM
+.+ Yes maybe you are right, in line with GK's tied togetherness.I just had the impression that they have really nothing between them and this is qualified by the advice card. Reversed Knight of wands, would say "not going anywhere". You can read that in a few ways or levels. Either the relationship is not going anywhere or if they were just dating it would be something like won't be going out together much, or you could read it like this whole question of the reading is "just not going anywhere" or "this is going nowhere". IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 66084 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 16, 2016 10:52 AM
Was it accurate?IP: Logged |