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Randall
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posted March 16, 2003 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"that is correct .. and stated with unusual clarity
you have summarized the only three choices
granted to any Owner of a flesh Body Temple
at the time of the Saturn-Seven-cycle
first -- to remain in control of the Temple selected at birth
second -- to trade "houses" with another Owner
and third -- to send forth the soul pieces
in order to gain simultaneous experience
within several Body Temples -- then recall them" Page 869

This is the Canto where we learn all the secrets. It will take a lot of Posts to explore even a small portion of Canto Twenty.

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posted March 17, 2003 01:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is *the* canto. Hard to get through...and it must be read SLOWLY. (which I didn't do the first time around.

I didn't fully understand everything in this canto the first time I read Gooberz....especially because I hadn't read Star Signs yet. So I read Star Signs and then re-read this canto and WOW...a ton of new things made sense to me that had never occured to me before! It was so....eye opening. "Third eye" opening! lol. I'm sure there's still some stuff I don't totally understand in this canto, but at least I understand what I think is definitely the main secret about Linda and her twin....and all the reasons why everything happened the way it did. I can't believe that after the first read-thru I didn't get it! It's so important!!! Well, hope I didn't give anything away by saying this.

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posted March 17, 2003 08:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 17, 2003 09:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I've just realised

I've upset the order of these cantos
I should of started a new thread
sorry bout that

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Randall
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posted March 17, 2003 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not true! They were only in order briefly. Not meant to stay that way! Post anywhere you want.

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posted March 17, 2003 09:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everyone~
Question: Should I stop where I am at and read Sun Signs?
Thanks in advance

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Love & Light,
Melissa

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posted March 25, 2003 12:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...but as for the predictive portion of astrological study
it is, even yet, sadly misunderstood by humans
simply because it has been so grossly misinterpreted..........

For the Higher Self is not subject to the influence of the stars.

Love that bit.

"what you have surmised is correct,
the physical Body Temple will always feel the influence of the stars
until one finally achieves true Free Will choice
by channeling or tuning in to one's Higher Self
then one is released from all planetary influence."

So incredibly simple, isn't it?
Not easy, just simple.

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posted March 31, 2003 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 31, 2003 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eee gads, good grief, Charlie Brown, this canto was so hard when I read it at 17. I actually skimmed it. Then, upon my second reading, I read it all in one intense candle-lit night and things dawned on me!

I have been away from "Gooberz" for too long. I've got to get back. This forum is a great start for me.

Thanks, everyone.

LMB

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posted April 01, 2003 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a tough one, for sure, but it has so much in it.

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posted April 03, 2003 02:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can some of you please give me your ideas on the Saturn-Seven-cycle. I have read Gooberz 4 times and am still drawn to this passage. (Maybe because I am twice ruled by Saturn.)

Does anyone have any other metaphysical references to the Saturn-Seven-cycle, such as Biblical references or mention of it in other metaphysical books?

Thanks for your input.

Heidi

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posted April 03, 2003 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She got much of it from the Rosicrucians and writings by Manly P. Hall (such as Secrets of the Ages).

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posted April 03, 2003 10:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm still an amateur but would I be right in saying you could search around the heading of Saturn Returns,the saturn seven cycle having being further denominations of the movements of Saturn and divisions of a Saturn return?Or have I got it wrong

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posted April 03, 2003 03:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was under the impression that the Saturn-Seven-Cycle was not the same as the Saturn Return which is approximately every 29 years.

Clarification anyone?

Much Love,

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posted April 04, 2003 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep. Two different things.

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posted April 05, 2003 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the SSC is approximately every 7.5 years or so.

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posted April 06, 2003 08:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Is it relatively easy to find out when you have an SCC?Could you for example use the information on astro.com or from an ephemeris.What exactly do you look for?

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posted April 06, 2003 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should read Gooberz. It's an experience that will forever change your Life.

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posted April 06, 2003 09:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall or Anyone Who Would Care To Answer:

Please give me your interpretations of the Saturn-Seven-Cycle. I would like to hear how other Knowflakes have interpreted it, particularly in relation to this part:

first -- to remain in control of the Temple selected at birth
second -- to trade "houses" with another Owner
and third -- to send forth the soul pieces
in order to gain simultaneous experience
within several Body Temples.

Yes Randall I will definitely look into the Manly Hall books and I have many of the Rosicrucian books but have never seen any reference to the S.S.C.

I am just yearning for more input!!!

Love and Light,

Heidi

"Twice Ruled by Saturn and Seeking Subtle Secrets of the Saturn-Seven-Cycle" LOL!

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posted April 12, 2003 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haven't forgotten you. Just trying to find time to type a long response.

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posted April 13, 2003 09:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Randall! Anxiously awaiting your response and who better to hear it from than another Cappy. (You are a Capricorn right Randall, or am I dreaming?)

Heidi

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posted April 13, 2003 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Might take a little while.

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posted April 14, 2003 02:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem Randall! Take your time.

Heidi

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posted April 15, 2003 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To say that it takes a long time to get through Canto Twenty is the understatement of the century in my case. I started reading Gooberz in the summer of 2000, quickly at first and gradually slowing down and then at canto twenty..became pregnant and put it aside for a while..now that my life is radically different, I have picked it up again and finding mys-elf astonished by some of the things here. Truly, "It possesses a mysterious chameleon essence, which may cause it to become, as you read it, your own personal biography."

Randall, I am eager to hear your impressions of the SATURN SEVEN CYCLE. It is something that I am particularly intrigued by right now.

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posted April 15, 2003 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for morgana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes me too

Isn't the Saturn return part of the Saturn Seven Cycle?

It's whenever Saturn makes a transit square, opposition or conjunction to your Sun, right?

For me this was the most fascinating thing in the book because I've never heard of anything like that anywhere before. Come to think of it, I must read it again

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