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grayheart
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posted October 25, 2003 05:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reading things here and reading some information I saw the other day about Linda, I am somewhat puzzled by one aspect of Gooberz.

She gave a lot of information on her life history, and people she met and things she learned. She talks about love, and she mentions two great loves. Will who she knew as her twin, and Bob, also her twin.

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posted October 25, 2003 05:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I Find confusing is the complete lack of any mention at all of her husband Sam Goodman. According to what I can find, Will was her first husband, Sam was her second and was also the one whose name she went by. and then there is Bob, who she so obviously love so dearly. And yet from what I can understand, the story of the times when she was moving on, she is reported as saying something like "Sam come and take me away with you"
And so, I am confused by the lack of mention of Sam throughout the entire book. Also, givein this information and looking at the information in Gooberz, I find it odd that Will dies as near as I can tell from what she said in november of 1970, of course they had been separated for many years during this time, but no mention of any relationships during this time. And then the part about the death certificate with the wrong date that turns out to be the date she meets Bob, and it only being a month later. of course, she does become separated from him as well for many years, but I am curious where Sam fits into all of this. And why he was never mentioned.

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grayheart
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posted October 25, 2003 05:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Though she herself say the words are prosaic, she said it is in a way autobiographical too. So, it just makes me wonder how such a large part of her life could be exluded. My only thought as to why have to do with the missing "Twelfth Night Secrets" Perhaps the answers were to be revealed in that later work, which has been postponed, until she returns and/or manifests it to us.

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Randall
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posted October 26, 2003 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Curious question. I don't know the answer.

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posted October 26, 2003 04:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I kind of wondered that too. I also wondered why she her surviving children weren't in the book.
But I was reading Venus Trines at Midnight and there is this poem, I can't remember the name but it is quite a long one and to me a tad confusing, in which she goes to a graveyard and sees three little headstones that causes her to be nostalgic and sad and I think that it is suggested or maybe I inferred that those were her three referred to in Gooberz. The odd thing about that would be that in the poem she seemed to relate to those headstones in a past life sense.
I don't know. Perhaps Gooberz was in small part an intergration of past lives into the "concious" < (oh! double quote) one of the "present" < (perhaps another double quote), that she was drawing on.
I shall look in my "Venus Trines" and name the poem for you.

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posted October 27, 2003 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those are the three tiny druids who "tumbled in the grass and fell."

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posted October 27, 2003 02:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes but I never heard of that before Gooberz. Was that a part of her "present" life?

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posted October 28, 2003 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.

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grayheart
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posted October 28, 2003 12:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am further confused by something else I noticed earlier, that I still have not yet deciphered.
A post was made by little one back in september, where she said she was with Linda when she moved on. and she said that Gooberz was a love pOem. but did not say to who, she only said,
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Randall, Her love letter Goobers was to her only true love? I know you can figure this out it's easy! Who did she adore more than any man?

and based on things I have dis-covered, of course, since I was not there so I do not know, Linda called to Sam before she passed to come and take her away, which would lead me to believe it was written for him, but he is never mentioned. Unless...
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grayheart
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posted October 28, 2003 01:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sam goodman lexigramed just now

no man as good as moon man sam
and obscure reference to 1940's comic hero
MOON MAN

“On nights when the full moon shines the mysterious Moon Man comes to the aid of those who have been oppressed and cheated by powers out of reach of the law. Like a nameless shadow he comes and goes, hunted alike by the underworld and the police!"

ORIGIN
The Moon Man’s origin and secret identity have never revealed.

HISTORY
The Moon Man is a wealthy urbanite who operates as a full-time superhero working from his penthouse apartment. He drives a powerful red automobile and has a special elevator that lifts him and his car from the street to his apartment. The Moon Man has only one recorded adventure against Boss McGool and his beautiful but deadly secretary Nadia La Sanne, who run a particularly heinous racket selling tainted meat to orphanages.

POWERS
The Moon Man has no powers but he is described as a “master of many sciences.” He is a fine athlete and, most importantly, a desire to do right for all

Was Sam just a visitor? Did he only come to "share" the temple of her Love, was Sam the name her Love used when he was helping here Know and Grow? Was Bob Sam returning to teach her more? Too much confusion, maybe only linda can answer for sure, though little one seemed to have insite. I wonder when it will be the right time for little one to return and share.

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grayheart
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posted October 28, 2003 01:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, wait a second, now I am more confused...

ok, going by goobers Bill died in 1970 and implies a long separation, now we know she Married Sam in 1955, and he died in 1983, and Gooberz says she met Bob in 1970, and he left in 1972, Gooberz implies that he cam back in the end, but I can find nothing saying this for certain, I know gooberz probably has som artistic license, but the dates imply that there were some things goin on no one seems to talk about. I will have to look deeper to see what else is there. But it sure looks like a lot of overlapping time with her Loves

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posted October 29, 2003 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for metoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was written for Mewho on 10/28/03 at 12:43pm .. after reading all that he posted in this forum. By no means polished, but how I felt - for True.


Fly Gemini

It is often again, just when I wonder .. When?
That he comes Forward, Dear Friend
Deep in Thought, Long in Ponder
His questions - Bring me Under
Curious Gemini, I wonder You
Destined for Great Things – of this it is True

Like Peter the Pan, and with all that I Am
You Open your Heart – it is more than I can Stand
You Fly by Night and Ride the Sky
You Sleep to Dream and Play to Win
You Hide these Things – until you Begin

Begin to Hear and start to Wonder
All a part of your Gemini Thunder
Double the Passion and Twice the Capacity
Open your Eyes. There is No Reality
So Sleep and Dream and Ride and Fly
Always to Ask and Wonder the Why

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posted October 29, 2003 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for metoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Randall
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posted October 30, 2003 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda was always very liberal with the timeline of Gooberz.

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grayheart
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posted October 30, 2003 05:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm, I just noticed that I noticed something, actually I saw it yesterday, adn it just struck me just now as I was reading in the linda's life forum, in the thread Where Randall is talking about maybe writing a biography of Linda, Someones post said the elusive Robert Brewer, and I just realized that at least on my copy of Star Signs, one of the first pages credits a Robert Brewer as the editor...

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posted October 31, 2003 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He edited much of her work.

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posted November 01, 2003 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear he has now remarried.

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posted November 02, 2003 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or rather remarried while Linda was with us.

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posted November 24, 2003 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
grayheart - yes, linda was liberal with her timeline. And remember, she used many different lives in this book, as she says near the prologue, about being careful about reading this the Truth, a true autobiography.

Sam Goodman was not mentioned in Gooberz, just as her kids weren't, because she didn't want to infringe upon their private lives. They were growing adults at the time and I think Linda respected her family. I wonder if they knew she was writing "Gooberz" at the time and if they had some say in their involvement.

HHmm.
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posted November 25, 2003 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 26, 2003 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder what Linda wrote and later decided not to place in it.

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posted January 13, 2004 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aselzion may have some answers as he has a manuscript

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posted January 22, 2004 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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TINK
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posted January 22, 2004 08:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always assumed that Sam Goodman was not included in Gooberz because he was not her Twin. Well loved, I'm sure, and clearly an important part in her life - just not a part of her Twin Self like Carousel Bill and Robert Brewer. After all, it was a Twin story if nothing else.

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posted January 23, 2004 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That makes sense.

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