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Randall
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posted December 09, 2000 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, so time really doesn't exist. That means that in special cases, when a Soul has not fulfilled a very important Mission (gets lost while attempting a Soul rescue, for example), that Soul can actually return attached to another body. What happens is that in the next Lifetime, the Soul chooses a similar birth time and place nearby. You would now have two bodies, but the same Soul. It is some One who would've been born already anyway, but the "occupants" pulled a switcheroo, so to speak. The birth time could also be several years apart, but still both would be alive at the same time. This is rare, but it does happen when a simple walk-in can't save the Mission. How does that affect the timeline? It probably creates a new One. This is very complex, indeed! Doesn't it seem cruel to have a body born with no Soul of its own? Not really! After the Mission is completed, another occupant will take over through a Saturn Seven Cycle, which happens all the time anyway. In this case, the new Soul will remain throughout most of the Lifetime of that body to ensure the Mission is accomplished. Each of us (with the memories of who we are phyically) is a different Soul many times over. It's a way of speeding up Karma in these days of the coming Earth changes. The only way to end the Cycle is to claim your Heritage of immortality. An unlimited Lifespan resolves the dilemma of Karma that is constrained by short mortal Lifespans. Still, I think it is rather neat that two bodies can have the same Soul! It's also neat that in cases of a major foul-up (those darn Free-will Tinker Toys), the Soul can have a second chance (when it is a major Mission that affects many others). I just re-MEMBERed an actual case. Jesus is asking, "Who do you say that I am?" A reply of, "Some say that you are John the Baptist" may indicate that Jesus fulfilled his Mission by having two body vehicles!


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"and the Mind will, through the Brain .. restore the memory
of the former Body Temple identity to the newly-discovered one
until finally, he or she will recall all which passed before

and this will be verified by the recollection of many incidents and phrases
many so-called fragments .. which no one else could have known" Linda Goodman in Gooberz, page 946

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posted December 09, 2000 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
What is really bizarre is that sometimes you may be dealing (a friend, son, sister, husband, etc) directly with yours-elf...a simultaneous incarnation...either you or the other you decided to parallel its-elf to help its-elf.


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Randall
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posted December 09, 2000 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think simultaneous incarnations happen often, but out of the times that they do, the other incarnation is frequently an "enemy" or source of conflict, which is the easiest way for our Higher S-elves to bypass Free-will to "trick" us into reaching our Mission!

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"and the Mind will, through the Brain .. restore the memory
of the former Body Temple identity to the newly-discovered one
until finally, he or she will recall all which passed before

and this will be verified by the recollection of many incidents and phrases
many so-called fragments .. which no one else could have known" Linda Goodman in Gooberz, page 946

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posted December 09, 2000 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gooberlily     Edit/Delete Message
Oh boy, this is some "heavy" stuff! I'm glad I've read this thread. Wow.

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Randall
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posted December 10, 2000 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
The mental owner of Twelfth Night Secrets (Linda, of course) would be proud that we are discovering some of them!

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"and the Mind will, through the Brain .. restore the memory
of the former Body Temple identity to the newly-discovered one
until finally, he or she will recall all which passed before

and this will be verified by the recollection of many incidents and phrases
many so-called fragments .. which no one else could have known" Linda Goodman in Gooberz, page 946

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posted April 14, 2001 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Zis boom bop, right to the top!

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posted May 19, 2001 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Australdi     Edit/Delete Message
Randall

2 bodies..one soul?...no
(IMHO) one individual soul to each body, but linkage to collective soul...through soul families, hence closer bonding to some souls

we are all fragments of the light, that makes up the collective, with varing degrees of awareness of the collective from time to time.
All is

being
I am
we are
all
are being
through one
by many

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posted May 19, 2001 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, Aus. I think I am not explaining this very well. Due to time BEing an illusion, a Soul may choose to go back to make a defining change, and for a short time (and with the express permission of the current Soul host), decide to inhabit another body. It isn't at the same time, though, because the past is always there. Past, present, and future run simultaneously like a never ending movie projection. It appears to be the same time in our linear perspective. I realize this is very confusing. We can likewise inhabit more than a single body to help "persuade" the real us to make certain decisions (bypassing those pesky Free-will Tinker Toys that the physical us use so haphazardly). Only a single astral body per individual, yes, but the Soul doesn't reside INSIDE the body. The Soul is sort of "attached." But through the illusion of time, several attachments can be made by the same Soul without violating any metaphysical dictates. I'm not very good at explaining this stuff. Where's Linda when you need her!?! Of course, I could be completely wrong in interpreting this information that I have received.

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posted May 19, 2001 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
AUS..what it boils down to is QUANTUM LEAP...but instead of 'leaping' in different times, you 'leap' into several people all together in the same room. They look different, but they are all Dr. Sam Beckett. From Sam's view each 'leap' is as it should be, they just all converged in the same time instead of spreading them out.

Talk about giving Al a headache...
"Gushy, get me out of here!!!"

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posted May 19, 2001 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the analogy, YIVY! Excellent! Of course, unlike Sam, we don't realize the Leap (only our Soul does). But the analogy explains the time paradox well. Sam might Leap to the exact same time dozens of times. In his perspective, each time he Leaps is once (he is not aware of the others going on simultaneously). Of course THESE Leaps we talk of can last up to 7.5 years each.

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posted May 20, 2001 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Australdi     Edit/Delete Message
hmmmm. I still have to think on this one...

sounds good in theory....but doesn't "feel" right.
I'm still not convinced on saturn 7

hehehe
....no-one can "learn" an anything...we have to find out for ourselves!

...usually the hard way
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posted May 20, 2001 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Better for a Ram to teach a Ram. Have you read Gooberz?

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posted May 20, 2001 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marigold     Edit/Delete Message
Makes sense. Also we (especially I) are not
"all there" all the time. Sometimes it's like parts of me are more floating around...

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posted May 20, 2001 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Australdi     Edit/Delete Message
Gooberz?...no unfortunately not yet....I've been having difficulty getting it over here...and the last quote I got to get it imported was going to be more than $60!
...still investigating, and hoping it might miraculously appear in a second hand bookshop like all the other books did.
(one can only live in hope)

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posted May 20, 2001 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
When you find the book (and you will), reflect for a moment before you start reading it. Take a mental photograph of who you are. Why? Because when you get finished reading it, you will be have been transformed (slowly) into a new person. This book is alive. You'll see...

THEN you can come back here and tell us about all the secrets it revealed to YOU (we each take in different things when we read it). Gooberz is probably the main reason we Love Linda so much. It is her greatest masterpiece. It is what she wanted to be re-MEMBERed for. Through it, we become close to her and a bond is created. Those who read it become a Member of her extended family.

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posted May 23, 2001 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oceanwench38     Edit/Delete Message
Marigold....

I agree about the "floating" situation. When I was eleven I was at the bowling alley with some friends and growing increasingly bored waiting for my turn.

Next thing I knew, I found myself across the alley at the snack food station just standing there and not rememebering how I got there. I looked back toward the bench I was sitting on, and there I was, just sitting there spaced out!

It seemed like forever that I stood there watching myself.....and I must have "popped" back into my body because I got up and WALKED over to the food station to pick up my drink I had ordered.

The lady at the counter couldn't fiqure out where I had gone.

I ran home and told my dad, all excited, but he was heavily into James Bond.....

Drasted James Bond!

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posted May 23, 2001 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oceanwench38     Edit/Delete Message
Randall,


I LOVE the idea about Jesus also being John The Baptist....

Last month an old book I had given away (seven years ago!) came back to me...The Dead Sea Scrolls......and there, in the cover, my old name "Oriana" which I had used for a few years.

I think I will reread it...somehow seems to fit with your thread...at least in my odd mind.

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posted May 23, 2001 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Not odd at all, Ocean. Not at all.

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posted May 23, 2001 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
GOSH, Ocean...you ARE full of surprises and mysteries

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posted May 24, 2001 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I second that emotion, YIVY!

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posted May 26, 2001 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
Hi All,
How do I know whether I am meeting someone with whom I am sharing my soul? Someone please tell me!

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posted May 26, 2001 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
Hi All,
How do I know whether I am meeting someone with whom I am sharing my soul? Someone please tell me!

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posted May 26, 2001 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Until you become very advanced, there's really no way to tell, and once you are that advanced, there is no need to split your S-elf like that, so it's catch 22. Best to just re-MEMBER when another person truly makes you angry, it might be you! And even if it's not, we all are One. So, as the Christ Master said, "Love thine enemies, as you would Love thyself."

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posted May 26, 2001 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oceanwench38     Edit/Delete Message
Raj...Randall is very correct, I believe. I have had some experience with something I can only call my other "self" but am not too clear on the terminology, so we may be talking about different things.

First, I believe it depends on the level of enlightenment each "person" has....I have noticed that when I am angry, it tends to manifest in the others life...if I am sick, it manifests in the other as sickness....happiness manifests happiness, etc...even during times we are not in contact. I tend to feel sympathetic pains of the other, both physical and emotional. I do know that being around the other feels freeing in many ways, and it feels as if there is no such thing as time. I feel safe, I feel FREE. However, he is much more "enlightened" than I am at this time, so I am sure there is much more to it.
Also, the struggles and/or emotional problems that we both have been through are VERY similar.....I do know that I had a sense of disbelief that it was actually happening...my logical side tried to take over...but my Spirit's voice kept insisting. Try to listen to the voice.

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posted May 27, 2001 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message
Isn't it true that we are all a part of a great giant (if that word is right) soul? Like a big bubble breaking into smaller bubbles?

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