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Randall
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posted December 26, 2000 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
This is going to be a long and detailed Post, so I will have to do it at a later date, but I just wanted to whet your appetites. It will be a doozy!

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"and the Mind will, through the Brain .. restore the memory
of the former Body Temple identity to the newly-discovered one
until finally, he or she will recall all which passed before

and this will be verified by the recollection of many incidents and phrases
many so-called fragments .. which no one else could have known" Linda Goodman in Gooberz, page 946

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posted December 28, 2000 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianIdeal     Edit/Delete Message
Yes!

I love the Cycle of Seven! It is close to my heart.

Can't wait

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Light Touch
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posted December 28, 2000 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Light Touch     Edit/Delete Message
AH, Yet Another Lesson from our WONDROUS Leader follower of the Stars!!

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Love&Light~bryan

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Randall
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posted January 15, 2001 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you all for your patience. I will have to post this information incrementally, because what I have to say is absolutely exhaustive.

First of all, as mentioned elsewhere on this site, we are now aware of the phenomena of simultaneous incarnations, short-term walk-ins, and the lifting of linear time as it relates to reincarnation. The Soul chooses any time or place to be born into this world. It is all keyed by One's natal chart (a purely symbolic representation of One's Mission in the current Life Path). If the Soul chooses to work on things rerflected in a natal chart which can only be signified by the year 1706, then you will be born at the appropriate time and place to reflect that in your following (NEXT) Lifetime! Likewise, your LAST Lifetime could have been centuries in the future (according to erroneous, illusory linear Earth time). The Eternal Now consists of a beginning and a destination, both of which are YOU as your Higher S-elf. The experiences in between are merely motion pictures that truly have no beginning and no end. We will all end up at the same place, but it isn't so much a destination (poor choice of words) as it is an endless journey. Now, as if you aren't all totally confused, let me conmtinue...

Some of you may not be aware of what the Saturn Seven Cycle is. I don't want to ruin the ending of Gooberz for any One, so I will speak in semi-quasi-code. Every seven years, a window opens in which Souls can return to another physical body without having to be physically born as an infant. It doesn't happen without the consent of both Souls in the transfer. It is called a walk-in if it isn't at the Saturn window. Grief is a strong magnetizer to bring back a lost loved One (see the movie Return To Me with Minnie Driver and David Duchovny). It has happened to most of us a few times over, and it is nothing to be feared. By choosing immortality, One can stop the Cycle Of Seven, as the soul remains in the same host body. It is merely a way of speeding up Spiritual evolution and reincarnation (although this is a misnomer of sorts, since time does not really exist in the equation). Walk-ins are a bit different. Take Drew Barrymore. As a very young child, she went from smoking, to drinking, to hard drugs. Now look at her! She is the sweetest, most accomplished person you can imagine. How is this possible? Perhaps, she is a walk-in. Perhaps.

By learning natal astrology, we rise above the symbolism of our charts. Immortality does so in a more permanent fashion. We cannot rise above our Nodes, though, because the South will always indicate where we have been, and the North will indicate where we are going. That doesn't change. A Saturn Seven Cycle facilitates through those Nodes. For example, the new Soul must have a similar Mission. It need not be in the same North Node, because it could also be in the House Ruler, which is the same thing. Soul Missions get very complicated, because the Sign of the North Node can be in agreement or conflict with its House Ruler (144 total combinations). So, a natal indicator of a returned loved One would be either same North Node or its House. As always, though--where the Uni-verse is concerned, there are no absolutes! This is the way it's normally done, but there could always be exceptions. If the Love is strong and the grief overwhelming, anything is possible!

Does the individual change? Well, yes and no. I went from an atheist to a very Spiritual person. But most changes are much more subtle than that. Mannerisms of the former pereson will be noticeable, but only if a grieving person is close enough to recognize it. The body retains all memories of the CURRENT Life (the "Growing" things), and the Soul will retain the "Knowing" things as it moves on. I have much more to tell, but I will stop here for now.

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"We may not know what is right, but we always know what is wrong." Mahareshi Mahesh Yogi

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posted January 15, 2001 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
You know most associate the number eight with Saturn..but in a book I was reading recently, it was mentioned they passed the Seventh Circle of Heaven..Saturn..

Randall...that is a very simple and easy to understand explaination.

I think at one time it was a very rare occurance, but in these times it is happening more and more..


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Randall
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posted January 15, 2001 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I do beLIeVE it was a rare occurance in past years, but it is becoming more and more commonplace. Of course, we are only thinking in a linear fashion...

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"We may not know what is right, but we always know what is wrong." Mahareshi Mahesh Yogi

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posted January 16, 2001 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gooberlily     Edit/Delete Message
That was very beautiful Randall, very well put together and easy to read and understand!

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posted January 16, 2001 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
you are probably right they happened all the time, but we are just becoming 'aware' of them.

rocks...

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Randall
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posted January 16, 2001 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Saturn isn't such a bad feller, after all!

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Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round?

Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines.

Chris Angelino

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posted January 16, 2001 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gooberlily     Edit/Delete Message
I've decided to call "Pappy". I think he likes it

Just figured I'd let you guys know, in case I mention the word "Pappy", that's who I'll be talking about.

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YIVY
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posted January 16, 2001 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message

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posted January 17, 2001 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for playfootzebec     Edit/Delete Message
Alright,I understand the saturn seven cycle,but what does it mean when I have my north node in leo in the ninth house.I have read the meaning of my north node from the book astrology for the soul by Jane Spiller.This is such a wonderful topic.My ninth house is ruled by Jupiter which also rules sagittarius which is my ascendent.This is very confusing to me!Maybe this frustrates me because I have my mars in Aries!(hahaha)
I'll watch for more to come up,this is very interesting!

Thanks for listening!
LOVE and LIGHT EVERYONE!
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Randall
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posted January 17, 2001 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Pappy?

Ann, North Node in Leo means you are here to pursue Ego needs (not a bad thing as far as the Soul is concerned). You also have North Node in Sagittarius (Ninth House), which means you are here to pursue esoteric knowledge. There's a minor conflict there. North Node conflicts make for very interesting personalities!

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Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round?

Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines.

Chris Angelino

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LMB
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posted January 18, 2001 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Randallheart,
Thank you dear one for your explanation. I look forward to more.
My north node is in Libra, I think. Do you know what that means?
Oh, and I just had a piece "return to me" this summer. It was "time" - June 7-8. I'm still processing what that means for me today.

LMB

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Randall
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posted January 18, 2001 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
LMB, in what House? The House is very important in determining a Node's influence!

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Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round?

Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines.

Chris Angelino

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posted January 18, 2001 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for playfootzebec     Edit/Delete Message
Hello everyone!
Thanks Randall for the information.Can't stay on here long though cause today is my beautiful daughters birthday!

LOVE and LIGHT EVERYONE!
From,Ann

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Randall
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posted January 18, 2001 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Happy birthday to her!

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Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round?

Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines.

Chris Angelino

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YIVY
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posted January 18, 2001 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
Ann...a big HUG and KISS to the "Birthday Girl"..

LMB...congratulations on gaining another "piece" of yours-ELF..

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LMB
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posted January 19, 2001 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message
Randall,
Saturn is in my first house. And Libra... I THINK it's in my second house. second or third.

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LMB
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posted January 19, 2001 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message
Wait. Saturn is just barely in my 12th house, it seems. Some online programs tell me it's in my first, some say it's in my 12th.
HELP!

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posted January 19, 2001 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gooberlily     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome to the club LMB, Saturn's in my first house too EEEEK! I wish I could help you out with this one, hopefully Randall or someone will have the resources to help ya out

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Randall
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posted January 20, 2001 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
LMB, which House is your North Node in?

I adhere strongly to Placidus. See what your chart looks like here:
www.chartshop.com

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Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round?

Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines.

Chris Angelino

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posted January 20, 2001 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message
where is the North Node again? (sorry)

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Randall
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posted January 20, 2001 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
It will be signified by an upside down horshoe-looking glyph with small circles on each end.

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Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round?

Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines.

Chris Angelino

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posted January 20, 2001 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for playfootzebec     Edit/Delete Message
Hello everyone!Thank you all so very much for wishing my daughter a happy birthday!She had so much fun,she ate alot of cake too! She is sooooooo sooooo sweet,all of my children are so wonderful!

Deanna is my beautiful girl with a capricorn sun,a gemini moon and a taurus ascendent.She has north node in leo in the fourth house.

Jason is my beautiful boy with a sagittarius sun,a leo moon and a sagittarius ascendent at the exact same degree as my sagittarius ascendent 22 degrees,and also a leo north node in the ninth house.

Jamie is my beautiful boy with a libra sun,a pisces moon,and a cancer ascendent,and a north node in aries in the eleventh house.His saturn is in the eleventh house also.

I love my family so much,and Geoff I love and miss him so very very much!

Why does love hurt and overwhelm US so much?One minute we are crying and then laughing....and when we are watching our children sleep..oh so many joyful tears pour out from the heart....and you just can't believe that you have such precious gifts!You just KNOW how very LUCKY YOU ARE!

THANKS FOR LISTENING EVERYONE!
LOVE AND LIGHT!
From,Ann

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