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ice Mists
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posted October 17, 2002 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
the technique/process is next
very short, i promise

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posted October 19, 2002 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
I was complaining in another discussion that I don't manage to forgive..And then I read this. Thank you so much for your time and efforts, ice, you're helping many people here!

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posted October 19, 2002 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
I. The Basic Process
by Diane Stein

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When I teach the Lords of Karma Basic Process to groups or individuals, here is how I begin. I ask them to get relaxed and quiet, close their eyes, and enter a light meditative state. Then I tell them to ask to speak with the Lords of Karma. After a minute or two I ask, “Is there anyone who has not made the contact?” Those few people raise their hands. When I ask those who haven’t if they experienced anything at all, most have received some impression. It may simply be a feeling of presence. People who are visual describe seeing colors, Light, picture images or symbols, or seeing the Lords of Karma themselves come forward. Those who are auditory hear the responses and may enter conversation with the Masters. Some people experience body sensations or fragrances. All are authentic contacts and all convey the required information.

Next I lead the group through a request that everyone agrees to. Since my groups are primarily all women, a good beginning is to have everyone ask for positive self-image. This is the first of the Universals that appear throughout the Lords of Karma processes. Universals are things to ask for that everyone seems to need. I recommend asking for them, as most or all will be useful to you. Other Universals for this Basic Process include: asking for release from negative interference on all levels, and asking for gentle release of all heart scars. A further important request is to ask to bring your life’s focus into living in the present.

Negative interference is an issue that will be repeated in a variety of ways throughout the Lords of Karma and Essential Energy Balancing systems. Evil and manipulation exist in the world and are real. When you are granted this release, you may be amazed at the images that came with it. Before asking to release heart scars – old emotional heart pain that blocks openness and your ability to love – realize that a heart scar clearing can be painful. The clearing may not happen immediately, but usually within three days. You may awake one morning in great heart-area pain, which can seem physical but is not. Fear, anguish, and flaskbacks of old hurts may come with the pain. The entire incident can last for up to an hour. Once a heart scar is cleared, however, you will experience new freedom and joy. Heart scars exist on the emotional body level. An uncleared heart scar becomes pain carried into other lifetimes, that is, karma.


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posted October 19, 2002 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
I. The Basic Process
by Diane Stein

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Another Universal request is to live in the present. Women in particular tend to focus too much on the past, reliving old hurts that are long since ended. When these hurts are finished, you can move forward and begin to live in the now. Many people also focus on living in the future (some live in past and future both, avoiding the now totally). They see their life as something that will come, that hasn’t happened yet, but will be wonderful later. However, later tends to move further and further away. Living in the past, or waiting for your life to begin in some future that never comes, prevents joyful living in the now. As you move further into the ascension process, you will find that the past is healed by the Lords of Karma (if you have done your work) and the future is created by the present and will take care of itself. Now is where we are and is all that matters; make the most of it.

Taking students through the Universals teaches the Basic Process. By the time they have experienced the first request in full, they have met the Lords of Karma, learned to ask for a karmic release, understood the response, and experienced the finishing process (all the levels, and all the bodies, etc.). I ask at each step, “If anyone receives a ‘no’ raise your hand,” and work with those people to clear it. Most “no” responses will clear easily, as previously described. Sometimes just making the request again brings the “yes” response. By the time the group has gone through two or three requests, the understand the process.

Next, I tell the group to “Ask for karmic healing for the relationship of your choice. If anyone receives a ‘no,’ raise your hand.” Again, I work with those receiving “no’s” until they clear them. If there is time, I lead the group through the process three more times – to release a situation, a character trait, and physical condition of their choice. I ask them to do more releases later, after the workshop ends. Try all of these for yourself now, using the full process outlined below. By the time you have completed these releases, you will be well on your way to healing your present life and all your unhealed past lifetimes on Earth.



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posted October 20, 2002 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
I. The Basic Process
by Diane Stein

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Because you are now sufficiently familiar with the process to ask for anything you need, you can keep going. Everyone has suffering in this life – it is the nature of living. You will find innumerable things to ask the Lords of Karma to heal. You may work days just on healing negative relationships and days longer when you ask to clear the positive ones. The things you need most will come to your mind immediately. This system was given to us to be used – use it thoroughly and often to heal all that troubles and restricts your life and joy. Consider the Lords of Karma angelic realm agents of the Goddess Source, as the best friends you will ever meet. Remember to thank them and appreciate them. Once you are thoroughly familiar with working with the Lords of Karma, teach the process to others for their healing as well.

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posted October 20, 2002 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
I. The Basic Process
by Diane Stein

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Once a Basic Process request is granted, the changes happen immediately; with the extended levels it takes a bit longer. You may only be aware that the request was granted – you may not feel any different, but the change is there. The next time the situation arises, or you encounter the person, or get medically checked for the dis-ease, you may discover that the problem no longer exists or that the situation has changed considerably for the better. It happens so naturally that you may not even remember that the change came from your request to the Lords of Karma.

Occasionally a detoxification reaction occurs. This happens particularly if you do a great number of releases over a short period of time. However, even then the detoxification is brief and rarely difficult or uncomfortable. Some detox symptoms include sleeping a lot, restlessness, depression, diarrhea, frequent or heavy urination, feeling hot, hot sweats, a cold or runny nose, or flu symptoms. Despite the symptoms you will still feel very well, and the symptoms rarely last longer than a few days. These symptoms are a physical cleansing that you need. Don’t use medicines to stop them. Drink lots of water with a slice of lemon in it while they are happening.

You may also experience flashbacks, old movies of past painful incidents. Simply watch them moving through. There may or may not be emotions attached, but the emotions and the scenes past very quickly. Don’t fight these, or try to shut them out. Consider them as pain leaving and just let them happen. Do not hesitate to ask for multiple Lords of Karma releases in fear of these detoxifications, as they are an easy price to pay for the gift they have granted you.



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posted October 20, 2002 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
I. The Basic Process
by Diane Stein

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If a karmic issue is a simple one, or only involves one simple past-life situation, the Basic Process is probably enough to heal it completely. However, if your issue is more major, for a serious dis-ease or long-term karmic pattern, you will wish to use the extended processes along with the basic release. Once you have learned the three processes that follow this first Lords of Karma method, use them to repeat the more serious of the healings you have already done with this first step. You may ask the Lords of Karma with each request if using the extended processes is needed.

Once you begin working with the Lords of Karma, ideas for the requests you need to make will come to you at all hours of the day and night. This is important information which can be lost very quickly. It seems to happen frequently that a request not asked for immediately is forgotten within a few moments. There are two ways to handle this. One is to do the request as soon as the idea occurs to you, or you can write a reminder to do it later. If you don’t do one or the other of these, the idea may be lost – and the karmic release you lose may be an important key to your healing.

Here is the Basic Lords of Karma Process. Begin working with it and with the Lords of Karma now.



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posted October 20, 2002 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
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WORKING WITH THE LORDS OF KARMA
I. The Basic Process

by Diane Stein

1. Ask to speak with the Lords of Karma. You will receive some perception of them.

2. Ask for the release you wish.

3. You will perceive a "yes" or "no" answer.

4. If the answer is "yes," ask to have the release

Through all the levels and all the bodies,
All the lifetimes including the present lifetime,
Heal all the damage (from the situation),
And bring the healing into the present NOW.

If the answer is "yes," the process is finished.

5. If the answer to your question is "no," ask what you need to know or do to have the release and wait for the response.

If you are shown a past life or something else that you do or don’t understand, ask to clear and release what you are seeing. You will get a "yes" or "no" answer – if "yes," do #4.

If "no," ask again, "What do I need to clear, know, or do to release it?"

Once you get a "yes" to releasing the obstacle, go back to your original question and ask again. You will likely get a "yes." Do #4 to finish.

6. If you get a "no" to #4, ask for a "yes" or "no" to each phrase. When you find the "no," do #5.

7. You may ask as many questions at one time, as often as you wish. Keep the questions very simple, one request at a time.

8. Use this process on four categories of karmic healing:

a. to heal dis-eases or physical conditions
b. to heal conflicted relationships of all types
c. to heal negative personality traits or habits
d. to heal negative life situations

9. Treat these Be-ings with great respect, never argue with them, and say thank you.

Universal healings: Do these one at a time. Ask for positive self-image, release form negative interference on all levels, and gentle release of all heart scars. Ask to bring your focus into present time.



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posted October 20, 2002 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
that's the basic process for working with the Lords of Karma...before you begin, it's very important that you know how to communicate with these beings...understanding genuine "yes" and "no" answers and not just figments of your imagination

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posted October 21, 2002 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message
icemists, you there?

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posted October 21, 2002 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message
oh, GOODY! GOODY!

previous post was a test.
couldnt log in until now.

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posted October 21, 2002 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message
can't send anything. server error 500.

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posted October 21, 2002 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message
oh, ok, i got it!

i think the idea is to post just bits and pieces and not a long one...

to tell a long story short, i haven't been able to log on the net since last week. i had internal server error 500. whatever does that mean?

anyway, i sent randall an email asking that my message be forwarded to you. well, i saved it just in case, so i'm 'rewinding' it.

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posted October 21, 2002 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message

here goes:

icemists,

you deserve every bright and positive smiley on this site. I MEAN IT.

so sorry not to have been able to respond immediately. i didn't go anywhere near a PC since my last response. when i did, 2 days ago, i found out i had internet server error. i hope you understand.

i don't own a PC because i don't want to. i guess i am my own disciplinarian. i know how much a habit can go bad with me at the helm. so it's a way of self-control. i don't own a TV as well. there are times when the temptation to have one lurks at the corner every now and then but then, thank goodness for that whisper over my shoulder asking me to imagine myself with a TV in my home. it lets me see that i would compete with a potato for the couch.

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posted October 21, 2002 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message

"The key here is recognizing what needs to be healed and what is beyond your own ability to release by simple choice and earthplane action. For example, if you know you don't look good wearing red, don't ask the Lords of Karma to heal it - just stop wearing red."

i realize that this so. i am in a situation at work now where the environment is the "vampirizing" kind. endless whining, lying, sarcasm, bullying, gossiping among workers. (heh. i better stop here ). so i said to the boss... "ok, this is it." i gave in my notice. she is very dependent on me but she refuses to listen to reason, preferring to evade rather than face and solve problems. well, short of turning renegade and and initiating a mutiny i told her, i wanted to help myself for a change. that i am a person with very positive energies and staying on will not do me any good.

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posted October 21, 2002 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message

now i am in the process of cocooning myself to get revitalized and recharge batteries. that's why what you're sharing is tremendously important for me especially at this time.

"Be careful what you ask for, you may get it. And since getting it will affect everything in your life, ask only for what you truly want and need."

i have proven in my life the power of the spoken word and its reverberating consequences. the after-effect guilt is immense, not to mention the astrological observation about the scorpionic tendency for self-destruction. whew! besides which, there are the Lords of Karma hovering. thus, i don't take knowledge of the spoken word lightly.

i'm printing out what you've shared to ponder over until i get a copy of the book. i have a week's holiday coming up. you are very generous with your time and energy, icemists. THANK YOU SO MUCH. c'mon, nudge me for a a bit of something in return.

by the way, i'm trying to understand one who has a scorpio moon. is it typical of you to be so very mum about what you feel inside?

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posted October 21, 2002 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message

so that's that.
i'm scrolling back up now to read all the new ones you've shared.

the brightest of blessings!

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posted October 27, 2002 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
hey taj, sorry for the delay, i've been studying for exams and havn't been on the computer for a week now...boy it's hard to keep away cause once i'm on, i never get off much to the nuisance of my brother...and then i always forget about my homework

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posted October 27, 2002 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
i think it's good that you're taking care of your needs and putting it into action...if the environment you work in is sapping you of energy, get out girl!!! (i assume you're female?)...from hard learned experience, i get a physical reaction to people who are too clingy...they seem to stick like a leech and then suck you dry...and then you're always wondering why they like being around you so much and you're always tired around them...did that sound bitter?...ahh my scorpio moon rearing its ugly head....

girl i just don't like to see that happening to anyone...you deserve a positive environment where you can let all that good old postive creative energy flourish...so let it rip!


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posted October 27, 2002 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
heh cocooning..that's such a cute word...undergoing transformation? sending love energy your way


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posted October 27, 2002 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
*scorpio moon* shhh!!

heh actually most of the time i try to be detach cause if i can have my way...hmm let's not go there...

what they say about the intensity is all true, but it needs to be directed carefully or it turns into jealousy easily cause they're the same thing...much like a candle flame and a raging fire...

to get to the point, i don't think scorpio influenced people divulge their inner feelings because they believe that the majority cannot handle it...besides who wants to know what lurks in that deep cave of a mind of theirs...hey you're a scorpio, you should know more

it's just that there are things they feel strongly about that the masses do not understand and thus label what they do not understand taboo...when in reality we really are sweet people....ok maybe with a bit of an edge

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posted October 27, 2002 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ice Mists     Edit/Delete Message
hey stella polaris

hope the posts help you

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posted October 28, 2002 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MARY     Edit/Delete Message
Wow....This is so cool!!!!!

But I am going to the library tomorrow I can't read this screen anymore.

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posted November 07, 2002 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taj     Edit/Delete Message
ice mists,

hi missy!

methinks you just nailed something in the head when you say "the majority cannot handle it" because i was actually asked if i could.

by the western zodiac, i'm a saggie with a scorp rising and merc in the sign of the eagle/phoenix as well.
by the vedic one, i'm a scorp.
so i guess that makes me a dweller of the dark depths or the deep darkness, whichever.

my moon is in "in your face aries" so i'm very forward in showing my feelings if not for scorp rising putting a damper to it. grrr.

thanks a plenty for the love energy.
it has definitely helped!
my spirit feels lighter and brighter these days.

sending some of that love energy your way.
here...........catch!.......
or put it in your pocket for a rainy day.

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posted November 08, 2002 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MARY     Edit/Delete Message
Hello IceMist,
I was wondering... This might sound ignorant but here goes. The Lords Of Karma, and Essential Energy Balaning , are two different books??? Right?
Are there any other books by this author that deal with Karma?
I haven't gotten mine from the library yet... I can't wait.
Mary

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