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Elewolfe
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posted January 24, 2003 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elewolfe     Edit/Delete Message
Hiya, I've been studying the hebrew alphabet and can find no correspondence to C - 3, J-1 or x-5. I can see with the first two that these single digits could come from their sequence in the English alphabet but what about X? Why is it 5 rather that 6?

Thanks for your help. This is my first posting and would like to say how much I've enjoyed reading your posts, real food for thought!

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Randall
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posted January 24, 2003 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome!

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theFajita
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posted January 24, 2003 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita     Edit/Delete Message
HI Elewolf I am sorry I do not know but many people here are smart and can help you!

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Aselzion
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posted January 24, 2003 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Elewolfe...

Have you looked into the string on the English Qabalah, you might find that interesting as well.

In terms of your questions, to the best of my knowledge:

X in the English alphabet would roughly correspond to Tzaddi in Hebrew. Tzaddi sounds Ts or Tz, and according to Paul Foster Case, a master Qabalist, may also be transliterated as X. HOWEVER, Tzaddi's numerical Value is 90, which reduces to a 9. The Chaldean Numerical Kabala that Linda uses does not assign the 9 vibration to any single letter in honor of the sacred 9 lettered name for God. How it became a 5 is beyond me... but I think it WORKS!

J is EASY. The Hebrew YOD, with a letter value of 10 can be transliterated into English as I, J, Y. As you can see, the Chaldean System ascribes all of those letters to 1, because the 10 reduces to 1.

The English C is a bit of a stretch. Near as I can tell, it relates to the way the C sounds when SOFT, as in ACE or Century. MAY be derived from the Hebrew SHIN (S, SH, SCH) which has a letter value of 300, reducing to 3.

However, the Hebrew Cheth, which transliterates into the English CH may hold the clue. Cheth has the letter value of 8. If we SUBTRACT the H (Heh, number 5) we would be left with only the C, and a numerical value of 3. See what I mean about a stretch?!

I haven't read these things anywhere, but from my limited knowledge of Hebrew QBL, this is what I came up with when I set my mind to spiraling on the subject.

The two numerology sources I have at hand are Cheiro's Book of Numbers and The Kabala of Numbers by Sephariel. Both mention the Chaldean system that Linda used in her numerology calculations, but never really explain HOW the letters got their numbers. Though I suspect, that it has to do with simple Hebrew/English transliterations.

Hope this helps some.

Blessed Be...

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theFajita
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posted January 24, 2003 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita     Edit/Delete Message
Like I said, someone smart here just helped you

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posted January 24, 2003 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Fajita...

Thanks.. I'm not all that smart. Just very interested, and persistent in my studies!

Pax et L.V.X.
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posted January 24, 2003 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita     Edit/Delete Message
Trust me A you are smart! And I beleive the persistent and interested part too

Have a great weekend

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posted January 24, 2003 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Fajita...

Thanks again, and have a great weekend yourself!

Live long and prosper...

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posted January 25, 2003 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
You are AWESOME, Aselzion!

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Elewolfe
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posted January 25, 2003 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elewolfe     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Aselzion, that explains quite a bit. From what I understand if you don't follow the pythagoras method which I think is pretty basic then the chaldean in some areas is open to your personal perspective. I just received a wonderful email from the writer Leeya Thompson who is also interested in the Chaldean method, but she combines it with Araamic alphabet, with regard to numerology she stated: "There seem to be some serious inconsistancies and for this reason I have to conclude that numerology is a soft science and depends greatly on ones intuition when using it." Which I'm beginning to see is quite true, perhaps Linda came to these conclusions on a spiritual level rather than scientific, and all though I find some of her conclusions to the numbers to the numbers quite harsh, they also have a lot of logic in them as well. Has anyone tried experimenting with the equivalencies?

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posted January 26, 2003 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Hello again, Elewolfe...

I've been doing numerology and astrology for about 20 years now, and I find them both valuable, and inseperable.

The Pythagorean System is basic as you say, in that it assigns English letters a numerical value based solely on their PLACE in the alphabet, A = 1, J = 10 and S = 19 which all reduce to 1. BUT, just because it is basic does not mean it is invalid.

I would have to agree that it would SEEM that Numerology is a "soft science", and open to interpretation. However, as Pythagoras said: Omnia in numeris sita sunt: Everything lies veiled in numbers. I believe that like astrology, the numbers never lie.. but our ability to interpret what they mean is always up for debate!

For instance, the Great Pyramid conforms to both Pi (3.14159265) and Phi (1.618034) ratios. The human body symmetry is based on a Phi ratio. It would seem that Pi is a number of FUNCTION and Phi is a number related to FORM or beauty. Phi has been called the Golden Proportion or the Golden Mean, and was used by MANY artists, particulary during the Renaissance, to ensure that their work would be pleasing to the eye.

I can only suggest that you try all the methods and see what works best for YOU. I find that the Truth always seems to lie in some combination... but that's me, and I have a Libra MidHeaven.

Peace and Light...

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