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Topic: Optimism or Pessimism?
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StarLover33
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posted January 29, 2003 08:09 PM
Hi I was wondering about how you feel with these opposites? Which one is better for the soul? Honestly, which one do you consider yourself to be? The reason I'm writing this, is becuase I know this boy at school who is very smart. He's a complete Capricorn.
Well anyway, this guy I know, has a very negative view of the world. I mean he's always depressed and lonely and the worst part of all he doesn't want to change himself. He actually thinks he's fine the way he is, but he isn't. He has such a bad view that he told me, that he truly believes he'll die a violent death...honestly. Yes, these are very ugly Capricorn traits and it gets worse.
When I met him, I thought he was the most wisest guy ever, I mean he knew things that I didn't even realize. We used to talk about everything as friends...it was fun while it lasted.
Now, he's a complete ******* , I mean he's so bad that when I told him about some of my views, especially with religion and spirituality, he got less and less friendlier. It got to the point, where the other day, he told me that I'm living in a fantasy world and that if I don't get a reality check in the next 10 years...I'll either commit suicide or go to an insane assylum...  He also thinks that I'm not as intelligent as he is becuase he thinks I'm ignorant and outdated with my views on the world... He says I live in a box and that my life is hopeless. He constantly makes fun of my intelligence and thinks I'm not capable of doing anything. Being a Pisces, I've become depressed, becuase I almost believe that I will go crazy and that I truly am living in a fantasy world...this frightens me to death! What if he is truly right?
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RubyRedRam
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posted January 29, 2003 09:10 PM
Star, I have read many of your posts and you are a very wise and intelligent young lady. I met a guy like him once and tried to change him, thinking that a little love and friendship can conquer anything. I am an optimist because I believe thoughts are very strong and what you think is what is. You need to forget what this guy has said to you about you. He doesnt know you and you know what they say about misery loving company....he got it right? You need to prove to him that his beliefs dont have the power to drag you down. Fight for what you believe in and what your heart tells you. And now for the reality of the situation (in my opinion). This guy is jealous of you. He is threatend by you intelligence (which is why he says hes more smart than you). Because he knows he is not. He would love to be like you, to have your fresh and realistic views on life. He would get power in the knowledge that he could make you doubt what you believe. DO NOT doubt what you 'know'. Remember about your thoughts and remain positive. There are many people in this world who will try and drag you down. Send them as much love and light as you can and try and move on from them. You cant change or help people who dont want to change or be helped. Is there a huge forum and so many great (and I mean GREAT) people to represent his beliefs? There are yours honey, and here we are  IP: Logged |
StarLover33
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posted January 29, 2003 09:23 PM
Thank you RubyRed,I have never thought of him being jealous of me, you've brought a very new perspective, perhaps your right, but then again he is a hard-headed Capricorn. Thank you for shedding me some light. -StarLover IP: Logged |
proxieme
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posted January 29, 2003 11:58 PM
See my reply in Free-for-All. It's not nearly as helpful as Ruby's; I think she's right - he feels threatened by you and your willingness to feel the joy and wonder of life  IP: Logged |
theFajita
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posted January 30, 2003 02:22 AM
First to answer you question Starlover optimism is the way to go!  Second, I really hope you see this guy is in a bad funk, and will never say anything positive about you and your beleifs. Misery loves company see, and you're not as miserable as him so he wants you there. I think you are very intelligent I remember being so surprised a long time ago at your young age with all the wise things you say. You are ahead of your time, and you are NOT living in a box. He has made his own box, true, it's not the same box as others so maybe he doesn't see it, but I think he is. I hope you don't listen to him. I hope you know to always talk to us about these things, I don't like people being mean to you 
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RubyRedRam
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posted January 30, 2003 07:33 PM
Hmm Star, from reading your posts you seem to me to be very strong with your convictions.. Why has this guy made you doubt yourself? You must really think alot of him....Just a thought, I hope all is well Ally. IP: Logged |
StarLover33
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posted January 30, 2003 08:23 PM
Perhaps, becuase I thought he was my friend, and the fact that I have insecurities, and he just intensifies them. Like I said, I thought he was wise...when I met him. But really he's just two-faced and highly CRITICAL with ulterior motives.
When I'm with him he seems to bring a negative and depressing aura that surrounds everyone near him. He has such a highly convincing speech, that you end up believing what he says weather it's good or bad, even when you know half of it is wrong.
I bet you, that he thinks in his mind, that I'm the one who will suffer, and that he should feel bad for me, that I'm so ingnorant and unintelligent. But to be honest with you, I guess it's the other way around, and yet he still makes me feel that my choice in life is all wrong. He's the one who thinks he'll die a violent death.
He is so consumed, with anger and hatered toward everyone else who dislikes him, but really he just brings it on himself.
He also hits my weak spot, for instance my Fantasy World, since I'm a Pisces, of course I have one and I can't stop believing in it, and it hurts my mind to think that I'm thinking dreams that are terribly wrong.
I still feel that he is good inside, but it is being intensly subsided by a much darker force in his personality that feels so unstoppable...unless he chooses to fall in love which will erase all anger and depression, but like he said he won't listen and dislikes the idea of being loving and forgiving.
He has violent ideas, like for instance, he talks about guns and killing. When the Sniper, was on the news, he talked about that intensly like he would want to become one. He also thinks that Malcom X was more greater then Martin Luther King. He thinks Martin Luther King was a traitor to his people and being puppeted by whites. He's Spanish!
He says that his family descends from Aztecs and that he is of Aztec blood.
I constantly tell him about reincarnation and how he must have been one. But instead he refuses to believe me, he's convinced that anything out of my mouth, is wrong and he's the one trying to teach me. He's controlling and he's manipulative. RubyRed you are somehow very intuitive please I would love your opinion.
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RubyRedRam
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posted January 30, 2003 09:30 PM
'He also hits my weak spot, for instance my Fantasy World, since I'm a Pisces, of course I have one and I can't stop believing in it, and it hurts my mind to think that I'm thinking dreams that are terribly wrong'How can your dreams be wrong?? I have many fantasies especially in love (I have venus in Pisces) I believe in everyone of my fantasies as strongly as I can!! As Linda says, you can manifest what you want if you believe in your dreams/fantasies!!! Thats why we must keep our thoughts and fantasies positive. They are what we beLIeVE! One thing with people like him is that they are so confident and sure of what they say (and believe) that you find it hard to doubt anything they say. He could probably convince you that the moon is sqaure because of his argument and his confidence in what he says. And, even if you could clearly prove how wrong he was he would still have a reason why he was right and you are so, naively, stupidly wrong. I think the best way to deal with this is to be as sincerley nice as you can be, even when he is a *******. Try not to let him get on his soapbox with his views and opinions. It is nice to talk to someone who opens your mind to new things but he is having a negative effect on you. I dont think it is in your best interests to listen to him if you dont have the strength to not let it get you down. On the other hand, you dont go through life without having your faith tested. He is a learning curve for you, he may be the one to make you question everything you believe in and question yourself. Whether you make this a positive thing or a negative (pess/opt) is entirely up to you. To rise above this guy is to show him that he can not make you doubt yourself. He can not teach you anything as a teacher does not actually 'teach' or control you. A teacher gently guides and allows you to learn youself. Do you understand what I mean? I think you have to agree to disagree with this guy. I think you have him sussed anyway... Want me to do a lexi of him??? you can scramble his name if you want...up to you!! IP: Logged |
StarLover33
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posted January 30, 2003 10:19 PM
RubyRed, you are extremely intuitive, and I hope that you spend your life helping others emotionally because your so talented.
When I was reading Sun Signs, by Linda Goodman, she wrote that the hardest lesson a Pisces girl has to learn, is to overcome her timidity and her doubts. This is truly the case for me, thank you for making me realize that once again.
I hope that I can be more optimistic and faithful about my dreams instead of allowing them to be abused and ridiculed.
I truly hope that he will find Love and Light inside his life. So that he no longer lives in the darkness he puts himself in, and I will still remain hopeful that he will...one day. This Lexie is very short and difficult and you'll have to use your extra powers to solve it. Antonio Aracio
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RubyRedRam
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posted January 31, 2003 12:02 AM
Thanks for the compliments I have always dreamed of being a councellor it would be my LOL!! I have just received some course info, its just a matter of finding the funds to do it!! I know I will get there one day. I want to include astrology and natural therapies and I want to own my own practice..I could go on and on. But thats my dream and soon it will be real!! I am on to this Lexi and will post soon. If only he knew !! It would give him something else to scoff at! I cant wait to see what our druid friends reveal IP: Logged |
Apollo
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posted February 01, 2003 04:59 PM
Sorry to butt in, but I consider myself an unquenchable optimist who wears a facade of pessimism. If pessimists really took themselves serioussly, they would assume that they were going to have a horrible car wreck the next day, be badly injured, linger a few days in extreme pain, then die after costing their family thousands of dollars in medical care; (since that is a prety bad way to go) and therefore, they would commit suicide right then to save themselves the trouble of doing all that.  Joking. Pessimists really aren't pessimistic if they hold hope of living for another day, and since it is impossible to have a life if you are sure you're going to die soon, I AM NOT A PESSIMIST! Anything less than the certainty that you are about to die is really just a faint shade of optimism.Moreover, hope is all many people have left. Without hope for a bette future, a better life, more happiness etc. where would we be?
 Cheer up people and be optimistic!! ------------------
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RubyRedRam
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posted February 02, 2003 03:36 AM
This boys name has had me reeling. Here is what I have so far:AN ANT CANT CON A NATION
CAN CIA OR IRA CON A NATION?
NATO CAN CON A NATION
IRAN IS TORN, IRANIAN AIR CAN ROT ANTONIO IS AN IRON
ANTONIO CAN ACT
AN ARC CORONA
AN IRON AORTA
NAN CAN CON ANTONIO INTO ACTION
AN ANTI NATION TRIO
AN ICON of CIA  Maybe this one should go into lexigram magic for some other people to look at. Very interesting. IP: Logged |
StarLover33
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posted February 02, 2003 04:51 PM
 You definitly picked up on his intense political view! Can you describe his future?IP: Logged |
RubyRedRam
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posted February 02, 2003 08:55 PM
I'll keep looking at it and see what I get IP: Logged |
Jupiter
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posted February 02, 2003 10:39 PM
Hi star lover33,
I read your post and it really hit home with he way i used to be. I'm bipolar but before i was ever diagnosed r on medication iwas very very depressed. I was a pessimist. Now i'm a sagitarius a it is not in our nature to be depessed. I was put on meication and i bean to experiene hapiness and now i am a n optimist. Ithinks this boy is depressed he may not know it i didn't. I think, it's so great your concerned, but i don't think his negativity has to do wit his sun sign. I think this boy is depressed. Take careIP: Logged |
Jupiter
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posted February 02, 2003 10:42 PM
I made a lot of typos i don't think this boys neativity has to do with his sun sign. It has to do with wha i realy feel he is going through. A depression.IP: Logged |
theFajita
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posted February 03, 2003 12:16 AM
Jupiter that does make sense. I take lithium to help me not feel horrible and I sure am not myself when I miss it for too long. ------------------
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DepTaurus
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posted July 07, 2009 10:05 AM
well for me im more pessimistic than optimistic but i think its good to have both. be optimistic is important have dreams and make them come true but be pessimistic because things might not always go the way yu wnat them to while your going for that dream. if you can be pessimistic it might not get your hopes up so fast when something is not definite. and about the capricorn thing i can relate i have th saturn uranus neptune in capricorn which if you were born from 1988-1991 you have to but im not that complelty against the world there are alot of great things. IP: Logged | |
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