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Topic: Landing on the Moon Conspriacy!
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Sunmeadow Glades
Knowflake Posts: 253
From: Brisbane, QLD, Australia
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted March 29, 2003 05:56 AM
 
I just saw a show on TV tonight about a conspiracy to do with NASA faking man's attempts/successes to land on the moon. Do you think NASA could have faked the whole thing of landing on the moon? The case against NASA was pretty strong.Love and Peace,
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RubyRedRam
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posted March 29, 2003 06:52 AM
Was there something about the flag where on TV, it was flapping in the wind? (The american flag I think it was) yeh, is it windy up there??IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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From: Belfast, Ireland
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted March 29, 2003 06:53 AM
Yep I think they faked it. I watched a documentary on it also but I can't remember it's name.
It was something to do with the directions of shadows that could not possibly have been made the moon that was a major argument against it.IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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From: Belfast, Ireland
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted March 29, 2003 06:54 AM
hey Ruby we nearly posted together!IP: Logged |
RubyRedRam
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posted March 29, 2003 06:56 AM
We are as one!   IP: Logged |
Quinnie
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From: Belfast, Ireland
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posted March 29, 2003 07:14 AM
lol yeah!IP: Logged |
RubyRedRam
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posted March 29, 2003 07:22 AM
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Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted March 29, 2003 10:05 AM
Oh, the memories. Ra and I had a big debate over this many "moons" ago (pun intended).  I personally think there was a lot of pressure for NASA to produce (after all the money spent yielded no results--possibly due to the funds being diverted to clandestine operations), so perhaps the first one was staged to appease the public. But I think we really did solve those problems and actually go there later. Now I think the opposite is true--that we not only went, but we go often to secret moon bases (on the dark side of the Moon).  ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Ra
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posted March 29, 2003 10:36 AM
Randall!  And part of my initiation was to admit that the landings were faked! That so-called documentary can be picked apart bit by bit with ease. This is good evidence of the power of the media to mold public perception. I will give some examples when I get a chance.  IP: Logged |
Ra
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posted March 29, 2003 11:03 AM
 Here is one example of the photos of the shadows that the "hoax-pushers" say were staged. The shadows are cast in different directions! This is a sure indication that there are multiple light sources! Right?! It only makes perfect sense. If there are at least two light sources, each of the astronauts should have two shadows. Very simple. You will notice that the shadows are different lengths - aha! The photos ARE faked! But if you look closely, you will notice that one astronaut is standing on an incline, the other a decline, and therefore different length shadows APPEARING to be in different directions, but not actually so. I will bet that if you look through your own photo albums, you will see the same effect, especially around trees in hilly terrain. And the waving flag? Another VERY easy point to explain ... but later.  Any guesses? IP: Logged |
kAHANyAH
Knowflake Posts: 43
From: Bklyn , ny , USA
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted March 29, 2003 01:19 PM
Nice and logical explanation... As for the flapping flag, I would think if we can move on the moon, why can't the flag ? I wouldnt call it a flapping flag since that connotes wind. Rather I would say moving flag. I think I need to see a photage of the flag flappin back and forth. If that is the case then the *hoaxers* may have a point. IP: Logged |
StarLover33
Moderator Posts: 1987
From: King Arthur's Camelot
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted March 29, 2003 03:57 PM
How coincidental, just two days ago I was talking about this issue with my school teacher. My friend brought this up, and said he was convinced it had been staged. He said that it would've been a very easy thing for NASA to do, and there was obviously a motive (They were racing against Russia and had no money.)
I on the other hand, don't really know what to believe. But I have a slight feeling you guys may be right. So it was staged, huh?-Starlover  IP: Logged |
morgana
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posted March 30, 2003 03:12 PM
I think the flapping of the flag could only be produced by the engine exhaust (is that the right word?) of the rocket, otherwise it can only be fake since there is no atmosphere on the Moon, hence there can be no wind. (???)I think if they wanted to fake it, they could easily have done it, but I sincerely don't know what the truth is (and that kinda proves my point). IP: Logged |
QueenofSheeba
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From: California, USA
Registered: Feb 2003
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posted March 30, 2003 03:22 PM
The flag was "flapping" because an astronaut had just touched it. Am I right, Ra? ------------------
Hello everybody! I used to be QueenofSheeba and then I was Apollo and now I am QueenofSheeba again (and I'm a guy in case you didn't know)! IP: Logged |
kAHANyAH
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From: Bklyn , ny , USA
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted March 30, 2003 03:24 PM
it could only flap in one direction not back and forth. Thats what I would think.IP: Logged |
RubyRedRam
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posted April 01, 2003 06:38 AM
Ooo oohhh!! I just watched a doco!! It had Nixon's ex advisers (including Donald Rumsfield) saying Nixon wanted to kill some CIA agents because they know that the photographs were fake. Now they didn't say this was because the moon landing was staged but because the photos did not turn out.They said Nixon had prepared and filmed a speech saying the astronauts were killed on their mission. He also had a staged landing filmed incase the moon landing did not eventuate. This was filmed with CIA agents and not the astronauts. Ok so the moon landing may or may not have happend at this time but Nixon sure went to lengths to show the public it happend, just incase it didn't 
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Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 01, 2003 01:37 PM
Anyone ever see the movie Capricorn One? ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
morgana
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posted April 01, 2003 03:20 PM
I know have, but I have trouble remembering the plot. I remember seeing a movie about the fake landing on the Moon, so I presume this is the one IP: Logged |
StarLover33
Moderator Posts: 1987
From: King Arthur's Camelot
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted April 01, 2003 05:13 PM
Thats so sad, if it's true people were duped pretty damn badly.
And that wonderful line was fake too?
"One small step for man, one big step for mankind." Something like that, I forgot but you know what I'm saying. IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 01, 2003 11:43 PM
Capricorn One is about a trip to Mars, but it was subtly referring to the Moon landings. They used Mars so as to portray it as fiction. NASA promised a Mars trip, but they found out they couldn't get through a radiation belt (sounds very much like our Moon landing, with the radiation belt between the earth and the Moon). The astronauts were locked up, and their families were told that they died. But they escaped and were then hunted down by the government and killed one by one--but one made it to his own funeral and blew the whistle on the whole hoax. Incredibly suspenseful movie.  ------------------
"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
morgana
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posted April 02, 2003 06:48 AM
Yes, yes, I remember now, but I don't remember that it was about a trip to Mars, I guess in my memory I connected the story with the supposedly fake Moon landing I remember how in the movie the government staged the fake scenery in the (Nevada?) desert and filmed the astronauts there so as to present the footage to the public as real... It's a good movie, I like sci-fi IP: Logged |
morgana
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posted April 08, 2003 06:26 AM
"And the waving flag? Another VERY easy point to explain ... but later."Well, Ra? IP: Logged |
Ra
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posted April 10, 2003 01:39 PM
Sorry for the delay! If you watch the video, you will see that the astronaut is holding the flagpole ... and TWISTING it! When you twist the flagpole, the flag begins to wave because there is another pole mounted horizontally across the top of the flag to keep it in a flag-like position (because there is no wind to make it stand out and flap!). Even when the flag is released by the astronaut, it SHOULD keep waving because there is no force to resist the flapping motion except for minute gravity and the friction that is inherent within the material of the flag itself. The flag in the video flaps in a most unnatural looking way, for good reason ... it is on the Moon! IP: Logged |
kAHANyAH
Knowflake Posts: 43
From: Bklyn , ny , USA
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted April 10, 2003 02:25 PM
Peace Ra,
come to think of it, that makes sense.
Thnx! IP: Logged |
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