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Distantdrummer
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posted June 12, 2003 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Distantdrummer     Edit/Delete Message
There is no excuse or reliable reason to kill! Period. A murderous killer is protected by Gods love as well as any saint!

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silverbells
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posted June 12, 2003 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverbells     Edit/Delete Message
What if someone is about to kill you and the only spot on their body that you can reach with your knife is their neck(maybe your hands are restrained in some way)? I do agree with you that a murderous killer is protected by God's love.

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hrj777
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posted June 13, 2003 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hrj777     Edit/Delete Message
So if someone is threatening to kill someone I love I am supposed to stand there and watch because I don't have a right to kill him?

If someone threatens to rape me, I am supposed to take it because I don't have a right to defend myself?

I am supposed to allow myself to become a victim because I am protected by God's love?

That's an interesting concept but completely irrational in a part of the world where I have to carry around pepper spray in order to protect myself.

Would you care to elaborate Distandrummer?

Love and Light,

Heidi

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naca8
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posted June 13, 2003 05:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message
can i ask something, i'm a little confused...how do you kill someone, when all these astrological places say that someone CHOOSES to die, does that mean that someone who is trying to kill you, but you kill them first realised that they were wrong and think they have to pay, or is it just that no one knows that they can choose???? -very confused!-

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silverbells
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posted June 13, 2003 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverbells     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I think that another option would be to injure them without killing them. And perhaps that was one of the things that DistantD was intimating. Am I right DD?

naca8-maybe the attempted murderer was supposed to die but he had to approach you violently and try to kill you for the outcome(his death) to come to pass. Or maybe you should let him try to kill you knowing that if you are in tune with you're higher S-elf, you could be really injured but you will not die, or maybe you would not be injured and something could make him stop what he is doing and you would be fine and if he still chooses to die with his higher S-elf, then he will have to seek death elsewhere. I don't necessarily stand behind these statements naca8(or maybe I do), I was only trying to give you some possible food for thought.

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naca8
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posted June 15, 2003 12:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message
actually that does clear it up a bit..but i still think some of these subjects are "murky" for lack of a better word.

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Mar y Sol
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posted June 24, 2003 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mar y Sol     Edit/Delete Message
Hi naca8,

I have read in some books, that no one can hurt you unless you agreed to be hurt on other planes.

That on The Other Side, our Higher Self plans our physical life in order for us to learn. We, with our Higher Self accept to go through certain events that will teach us a lesson. So, if someone tries to rape us or kill us, it is because we agreed to go through that.

I know this is difficult to grasp and understand, but the more I read about it, the more my intuition tells me it's true.

M&S

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Ra
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posted June 24, 2003 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome, Mar y Sol!

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MOONAT
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posted June 28, 2003 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MOONAT     Edit/Delete Message
no actually that makes good sense! i like to think that most things are out of my control...kind of something to blame things on...
(ps. this is the former naca8 )

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