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juniperb
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posted November 04, 2003 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Have you read The Gods of Eden authored by William Bramley? If so, opinion on it.

thanks, juniperb

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Ra
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posted November 05, 2003 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
I can see it on my bookshelf ... yes, I have read it.

I have a few books related to that issue, and it has been a while since I read them, so I do not remember his specific perspective. I will glance though it to refresh my memory ...

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posted November 05, 2003 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Ra. Could you share titles of your other books with the various perspectives?

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posted November 06, 2003 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I have it.

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posted November 06, 2003 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Randall, I just finished it. What do you think is the continued purpose of the warring factions? In the beginning when humans were chattle/worker bees to serve their purpose, I understand that. Yet after we no longer mine for them et al, what continued purpose are we serving

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posted November 06, 2003 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Don't have the answer.

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posted November 07, 2003 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
The Mesopotamians had a pretty good answer in their "stories". There were basically two often differing sides/families of Anunnaki "gods" here on Earth. One side was very much compelled to ensure Man's survival (and did so), the other was not so inclined. There was much conflict in this matter, a lot to do with the Anunnaki's own spiritual/philosophical beliefs. After several interventions of "Divine Will", or guidance, or direction, upon the Anunnaki (as the Anunnaki saw it), it was determined that Man was to inherit the Earth.

The "gods" had supposed that perhaps they were only being used as tools of the Creator for the purpose of creating Humanity, that perhaps this was destined from the beginning. After the last episode of destruction by the gods upon the Earth, they felt very guilty and decided to leave control of all civilizations to Man.

It was said that most of the Anunnaki left the planet for their home, but a few stayed to watch and perhaps guide from time to time.



It is an interesting story!

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posted November 07, 2003 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
I`m with you on understanding that much. I`m confused by why the 'brotherhood' is still so closely involved in human matters. Whats in it for them ? What purpose is the warring factions serving their needs/whims?

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posted November 11, 2003 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message

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posted November 11, 2003 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message

HEY RVERYONE! How ya been?

This has been one of my favorate subjects since about 2 years ago when I picked up my first book by Zecharia Sitchin [been trying to hin to peapleon this site to check em out for a while now!], GENESIS REVISISTED.

juniperb- By brotherhood do you meen the Anunnaki's top Gods?

Im not fammiliar with "warring factions" from Zecharia's books. What is that exactly.

Did this book talk about RAH's rain after the Sodam and Gamora incident ,when the age of Aries [his apointed age] started? According to Mr.Sitchiins reaserche It was during RAH's era that the Gods started to slowly [slow from our mortal perspective atleast] go back home.

As far as I know the Anunnuki still have a profound interest in us for a few reasons.
1. Because if we were to destroy the plannet baddly enough it could effect others in our solar system.

2.They will most likely need the resources from this plannet again that originaly sent them here [namely gold] again.

3.You can bet that ENKI and others of his clan still like to see how were doing out of their Love for us. He put to much effert and care into creating us to just forget about his mortal children and science project.

Ra- So what other books and authers do you think would be good for this subject???

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posted November 11, 2003 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Magus , the warring factions are in The Gods of Eden authored by William Bramley. He uses Zitchins books as referenced background for his subject. Figuring one has his knowledge of the Anunnaki, he tells of how they still are interfering with earth. Good point that the earth itself is still important to them.

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posted November 12, 2003 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Cool, MAGUS!

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posted November 12, 2003 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message

juniperb-sounds like Im gona have to get this book as soon as Iget the chance. Especialy since Im now on my last book of Mr.Sitchins Earth Chronicles.

I just cant get enough of this subject! Especialy when learning about the details of ENKI and ENLIL's tribes and often dramatick life and career's. THOTH ,RAH, and Isis are my personal favorates.

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posted November 13, 2003 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hello, Magus!

I always recommend Sitchin's books, and Genesis Revistited is on the top of the list! Have you read his latest, The Lost Book of ENKI? If not, you will love it. It is different from his other works, but no less fascinating, especially if you are already familiar with the story.

I have a few different books, presenting a variety of perspectives from a variety of differing material, some far less "scientific" in nature than others. Some are conspiracy-type books, such as by Jim Marrs or David Icke (or Bramley), some are psychic-type books having to do with Remote Viewing or OBEs, for instance, and some are metaphysically oriented or religious/spiritual. In many there are just mentionings of certain bits of material that make sense in the larger picture. There is a lot I reject or question heavily, but there is a lot that I am willing to accept and take seriously, especially when the pieces begin to fit together in my experience.

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posted November 13, 2003 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hi juniperb!

I read a bit of the book last week. I do enjoy reading about this perspective as there is much legitimacy to many of the aspects of this type of "conspiracy" research, but I also feel that there is much misinterpretation or misunderstanding as well. On top of that, there is also deliberate misinformation being delivered from several different levels - some consciously, some unconsciously, but nonetheless deliberate.

So it is a very good idea to be very critical/thoughtful/aware of the information that comes to you. Run it through your internal truth meter and see how you feel about it, then investigate a little deeper if the spirit moves you.

So, basically, I enjoyed Bramley's book and think there is much truth in it, but I do not agree with everything. I do believe that there are two sides to the Brotherhood, one "positive" and one "negative", and that this division occurs in the higher ranks. Those of the lower ranks unwittingly support both sides in the struggle for power at the top. And I do believe that there are entities other than present-day humans exerting an influence.

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posted November 17, 2003 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for replying Ra. That was pretty much my take on it. My truth meter clanged a few times .

Is there another author that you personally recommend on this subject?

juniperb

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posted December 27, 2003 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Still looking for some more constructive books.

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posted December 30, 2003 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Rule By Secrecy by Jim Marrs

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juniperb
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posted December 30, 2003 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Ra and it`s my lucky day as there`s one up for bid on e bay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3575498710&category=29325

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posted December 31, 2003 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Woo Hoo, even better I got it off Amazon for less. Should arrive next week.

Thanks Ra juniperb

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posted January 02, 2004 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Ra...

How the heck are you... long time no chat!

Hope you and yours had great Holy Days and looking forward to more indepth chatting when time and schedules permit!

Sub umbra alarum tuarum IHVH!


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posted January 10, 2004 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Oh my Ra, I`ll be digesting this book for a while. Thanks

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posted January 10, 2004 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Randall, the answer is in the book recommended.... it; I promise you can`t put it down!!!

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I've been eyeing Zacharia Sitchin's books for a while now. Should I start with #1 ?

Should they be read as factual or mythical or both?

I read The Illuminatus a long time ago and so I totally get what this is all about. Plus got "the great lectures" from the active underground here (in Orlando that is)... Ummm....

Don't know how much I want to go, maybe that one book "Rule by Secrecy" will satisfy my palate for now.

I've got a lot on my plate right now, trying to decide how to simplify it.

Thanks,

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posted January 10, 2004 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Gloria, if you are trying to simplify, then perhaps you should not read any of these books! Just kidding.

As for Sitchin, I think you could probably read his books in any order, except for The Lost Book of Enki, save that one for last.

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