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sesame
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posted March 03, 2004 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Hello all,

i don't post many new topics myself, but this I had to "share". It is a scan from the book "Fingerprints of the Gods" by Graham Hancock, 1995.

This is a schematic diagram of the Kings chamber in the great pyramid of Egypt:

Now, what Graham says is that the Egyptians knew pi based on the fact that the height of the main pyramid times 2pi equals the perimter. Well, I think this picture is even more amazing! This room was built a third of the way up in the middle of the pyramid, at a point where the area of the square equaled half the are of the base square. This pic represent the Egyptians understanding "basic" geometry - that we learnt two thousand years ago, but built exactly into a HUGE PYRAMID!

It just boggles my mind, and I had to share, or I'd go crazy...

Dean.

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posted March 03, 2004 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
A great and wonderful book that you will be interestd in is;

The Great Pyramid Decoded by E. Raymond Capt.

This book may be out of print but see if you can find it used somewhere - check the online sellers like Amazon, Half.com, etc.

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posted March 06, 2004 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message

... and this is the King's Chamber itself:

"A very accurate approximation of Pi is obtained from the double square. The diagonal of such rectangle is a sgr(5), and the sum of the sides of rectangular triangle give very close number to Pi (a = 0.6):"

(from aiwaz.net_institute)

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posted March 09, 2004 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OKANGEL     Edit/Delete Message
Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life. You guys are so cool!
Kim

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posted March 09, 2004 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message

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sesame
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posted March 10, 2004 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, OK, but pi is also used in the base to height ratio: Pyramid base = 4*pi*Height = 1:43,200 ratio of the Earth's polar radius to it's perimeter of the NORTHERN hemisphere - even more striking here is that 4320 is the amount of years it takes to go through two "ages" (for example Pisces plus Aquarius). It is also located at the centre of Egypts East-West "borders" which were exactly 7 degrees in width (as measured from the centre of the Earth), and half way of the Delta. If the axis of the main pyramid is extended, the northern triangle almost encompasses the entire Delta, etc. The Orion Mystery by Robert Bauval also stated that in 10,450, Orion's belt was at the southern most point of it's precessional movement which takes 26000 years to complete, of which we are in the age of Aquarius which goes for ~2160 years. The pyramids are also extremely close to the angle of the nile, as Orions belt was at that time. The two shafts of the Kings chamber if extended (at 2450 BC - the time it was meant to be created by Khufu) point at Al Nitak (the southern most star of Orion's Belt) and Sirius - known as the Dog-Star (another amazing book here relates the Dogon tribe of southern Africa to the Egyptians through this star) and represented by Isis (the fact it was also a binary star was mentioned in some texts by the "Ancient Egyptians"). So yeah, the pyramid itself is very amazing...

However, the reason the above picture broke the camel's back for me, is that this room is surounded in 6 million tons of finely cut limestone and represents a value that means very little really. 1.618 is the value of phi - as mentioned in the pic, it was the limiting value in the fibinacci sequence, but also "..obtained schematically by dividing a line A-B at a point C in such a way that the whole line A-B was longer than the first part, A-C, in the same proportion as the first part, A-C, was longer than the remainder, C-B"! I just think this is amazing! Not to mention 16.18 is the height of the Kings chamber plus half the width (which is half the length as Ra pointed out), BUT, it is also 1.618 * the width! This keeps spiraling my thoughts, as I think it represents infinity - 10 * 1.618 = 16.18 so 10 = A-C and A-B (16.18) is the same proportion greater than A-C is greater that B-C would be (in this case 6.18) - which consequently if mulitplied by 1.618 equals 10!!!! The width of the King's Chamber ... Does anyone get me? Isn't it AMAZING!!!

Dean.

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posted August 23, 2004 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
*bump*

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posted August 23, 2004 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Dean,

That book I mentioned has all similar information like you posted. You should really try and get that book, I know you'll love it!

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posted August 24, 2004 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
That was super interesting, Dean!

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Sheaa Olein
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posted August 24, 2004 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Oh wow .. Ancient Egypt! I need to read those books, I have a deep affinity with this topic

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posted September 12, 2004 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message


Hey you guys that know about this stuff... where'd you go? Just 'cuz we're not posting doesn't mean we're not consuming every word

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posted September 12, 2004 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
F'sure!

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posted September 12, 2004 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Suzume     Edit/Delete Message
Wow,

I think I consumed some of that information, although I have majour troubles with math. What I did understand was great though, keep it comming, interesting.

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sesame
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posted September 13, 2004 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
OK, so the gist of "The Orion Mystery" by Robert Bauval concerned the allignment of the three main pyramids, and the Nile (Milky Way). It really is a startling book and is a great intro into the amazingness of Egyptian thought. He goes on to say that maybe the Great Pyramids purpose is to catapult the dead Kings soul into the sky and Orions Belt. There was a precession when the Pharaoh died that supposedlt traversed a huge triangle. I think it was Thebes - Heliopolis - Giza, but it's been quite a while since I read this book. My point here is that the last line went towards Orions belt. The body might've been taken into the pyramid and ascended into the sky. Anyhow, back at 2500 BC, two shafts pointed at different constellations - The Kings to Orions Belt, and the Queens to Isis/Sirius - the Dog Star. The other two shafts pointed at other constellations but I didn't see any real relevance here, but I suspect another book will come out sometime.

Now these allignments are for 2500 BC (an awesome article I just found is at http://www.kolumbus.fi/lea.tedder/OKAD/sky2475.htm ). But for several reasons, the Sphinx must've been built 8000 years prior to this. I'ev always been wondering when the pyramid was built as it would seem sensible to be at the time of the sphinx. However, there doesn't seem to be any real relation. BTW, did you know the sphinx was built in the age of Leo? At sunrise it would've watched Leo rise above the horizon. I think that was also mentioned in this book. Anyhow the blocks used for the sphinx were also amazing as Mentioned in "Fingerprints of the Gods". The blocks taken from the Sphinx were moved about 100 metres away to build a complex. This Complex was formed of 200 ton blocks! There is apparantly only two machines in today's world capable of moving blocks of this magnitude. But of course, my guide skipped this when we were there. There are many interesting things to learn about Egypt out there. I just thought, as I said, phi broke the camels back for me.

Dean.

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posted September 17, 2004 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paras     Edit/Delete Message
Check out Secrets of the Great Pyramid by Peter Tompkins. It goes through almost every theory, fact, and figure available about the Great Pyramid.

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posted September 18, 2004 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
I have a really great question for everyone, one that I've wanted to ask for awhile, but keep forgetting...............

What do you think was the capstone on the top of the great PyRaMid?

I think a crystal goes on the top of the pyramid, and I think it was stolen and is now hidden somewhere. Perhaps this crystal is in the ocean floor of Atlantis, near the Bermuda Triangle..............perhaps this crystal contains much power.

If anyone is curious why I type PyRaMid, it is because I believe that the word taken apart, means;

Py - the entire structure of the pyramid was designed on the basis of pi, 3.14159, the mathematical ratio upon which the whole physical universe was designed and the value of y, 365.242, the number of days in the Earth's solar year. (the time interval in days between two successive vernal equinoxes in the earth's journey around the sun).

Ra - Ra, the Sun God

Mid - the Great Pyramid was placed in the exact center (middle) of all the land area of the world.

I real-eyes'd this many years ago, I took apart this word like this.

Paras, I have that book too

I also have a book by Betty Bethards, about Atlantis, where she talks all about the Great Pyramid and Ancient Egypt.

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posted September 18, 2004 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
I should give credit where credit is due;


The 2 books I have the Great Pyramid Decoded, and Secrets of the Great Pyramid were my father's books. He passed away 14 years ago and I aquired his books. Can you beleive, when I was a youngster, I had no interest in all of this, and he did then, and now I DO!!!!!!!! If only we could talk now about it!!! How cool!

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posted September 18, 2004 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
If anyone is interested, you can get a used copy of The Great Pyramid Decoded by E. Raymond Capt, at Amazon. Here is the link for used books people are selling;

The Great Pyramid Decoded

I really recommend it!

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posted September 18, 2004 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Nepthus, how's Isis doing? And what's the deal with Hathor, she's such a Bully!

Um, I got an error

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*** We're sorry. The item can't be shipped to your selected destination. You may either change the shipping address or delete the item from your order by changing its quantity to 0 and clicking the update button. ***

I find this a funny error message as it basically says "either don't ask for this, or move to America". So anyway, I'll prolly find it around here.

Yes, the "Egyptians" really were marvelous. The reason I keep using " or the question mark in the title, is because I don't know what they did, or whether their were peopl before them. I totally understand if they inherited their beliefs, but they still made awesome tempels etc. I just question the Necropolis. And the pyramids at Dashour for that matter. The "unacknowledged" pyramids. Closed of to everyone. You can still see them from the Saqqara pyramid, but no one's really allowed in them. It's interesting that they seem extremely boring schematically, yet there's so much hype.

This might take a while:

The bent and red pyramid (and a man with camel). Anyhow, I've read many books so far which were concerned mostly with the timing of the buildings and where they pointed etc. I will read more in the future, but we have only so much tim right now

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

ps. I aim to post more of my pics someday, so I'll be back

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posted September 18, 2004 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Dean,

I still curious what you think about my question? Not what the books say; but what you think.

Also what do you think of my PyRaMid?

Hmmm....try buying the book from another seller. I don't see why they can't send it to Australia, if Amazon is supposed to be World Wide?

I don't know anything about the pyramids at Dashour. Will see if it's discussed in any of my books.

You are lucky to have visited Egypt. Did you get any "feeling" there like a past life recognition?

P.S. saw your website, it's cool and you obviously spent a lot of time on it.

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Hello Nephthys,

Yes, the capstone. I haven't really thought of it too much, but I thought it was golden or something. The pyramid was supposed to be covered with shining white limestone, so imagine a gold tip on that? That could be stunning. Otherwise, maybe an eye of some sort - representing Atum when he first stood there and witnessed creation? Maybe there could've been a perched bird representing the Phoenix as the pyramids were also connected to the ben-ben stone - which was said to be laid by the Phoenix?

You know, the crystal idea of yours is very interesting (do you mean crystal puramid?) - it could've been used like a telescope or magnifying glass from the ground. Also, it re-minds me of the crystal skull (I think mentioned by Cayce?) found in Guatamala which could date back around 12000 years (not that I know how ot date crystal). My point is, the people who made the skull would've known how to make a crystakl pramid - also imagine the lights pouring from such a prism? That would be awesome!

Yes, pi ra mid has a cool ring to it, very spiralling. It represents mid in many ways - as mentioned above it was the mid of Egypt horizontally and was mid inbetween the delta (lower egypt) and the nile (upper egypt). Also as you said, the land masses of the northern hemisphere. Very cool interpretation

Yes, Egypt was awesome. Apprantly Cairo has the same population as New York, except two million people commuted every day so I think the traffic was worse. Did my pic turn out OK? I can't seem to see it, but I could get it. I'll work on the others (might take a few weeks though).

Well, there's a lot of speculation regarding the Dashour ones. For starters, it Egyptologists believed that one man built both which contradicts the "tombs" theory (which I think is utterly wrong anyway). But also to build two pyramids in forty years or so was questionable. Also why one was bent and one red was questionable You can see the bent one in the photo, but the red one doens't look too red from this distance.

I can't say I felt past life stuff, but I loved the country and its people except for the pushiness of some sales people, but still we got pretty good bargains. In many ways, visualising the size of some of the temples was the best fun. They were huge!

Yeah, I spent some time on it posting theories and thoughts, but mostly that was years ago when I was procrastinating studying at uni. I find posting thoughts here more fun as people can reply if they want to. I think my page isn't too popular. My programs doing OK though - almost 1.5 thou

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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posted September 19, 2004 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Dean,

I got goosebumps reading about your description of the capstone. I also wondered if it was gold. Fascinating about the Phoenix. I can picture that too!

I, too, have heard about and read about the crystal skulls. I may have a link. Yep ` here it is; The Ancient Crystal Skulls

How old were you when you went to Egypt? I mean, was it recent? Wow, 2 million people.........Wow. I can't see your pic either. It's a little red x in a box.

Linda said that sound was used to levitate the stones to build the pyramids; Betty Bethards said that the 3rd eye acted as a laser beam (using psychic energy) to cut the blocks of stone *and* to levitate them across the desert and then into place. She said it took 9 men to move 1 block; and that they had to stop and rest their bodies mentally and physically. They could levitate a block 2 miles a day until their energy ran out. Did you know that there are (supposedly) no tool marks on the blocks of stone? She also says that the purpose of building the pyramids was to raise and restore people's energy. The shape of the pyramid enables man to manifest energy.

I meant to re-read the Great Pyramid Decoded today but didn't have time. Maybe this week.

Anyhow, have a great week ~

Nephthys

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posted September 19, 2004 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
This is off the subject but the Crystal SKulls reminded me of it;

The StarChild project

Being a scientist, do you believe in aliens????????

To me, this is proof of alien life. I posted this once before here at LL but no one was interested nor did they respond.

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posted September 19, 2004 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Navia     Edit/Delete Message
It's very interesting, but why can't it be the crystal butterflies?

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