posted April 11, 2004 11:29 PM         

Juniper... thanks for the vote of confidence, hope I can live up to it!

Raine6... Well, having never heard of the Kabalarians, I cannot speak to their use of Numerology.

However, I would have to also take exception to the statement that the Chaldean System is the only VALID system of numerical interpretation. Granted that is what Linda said, but she also tells us to question everything and to decide for ourselves.

I have used the Pythagorean method (for years before Linda wrote about the Chaldean system) as well as the Chaldean system and find them BOTH to be valid and accurate. Like different House systems in Astrology, or even differing astrological systems such as Chinese or Vedic... it is all a matter of interpretation; and knowing exactly when to apply each system.

For example, I uses the Equal House system when I cast a chart for an individual, when I want a picture of that person (or entity's) Soul. That is, if all things were Equal (as they are in Reality, with the capital R) then the Equal House chart would always apply, and on a Soul level or esoteric level.. it does. However, in this Physical world where almost 90% of the money/power lies in the hands of approx 10% of the population... we can see that NOT all things are Equal. Therefore, when I want a picture of how that Soul projects into the Material world (of illusion) I use a Quadrant House system that creates interceptions and unequal houses.

That having been said... a system is only as good as the person APPLYING it. If it provides useful and valid information... so be it.

The older I get, the more I realize that Truth is plastic, and manifests according to our level of knowledge and outpictures according to what we believe. In other words.. "The All is Mind; The Universe is Mental." What we think and believe is what outpictures in our reality ("small" r).

The short answer.. I don't know the system of the Kabalarians... for me the Chaldean system speaks to me on a more Esoteric level, where the Pythagorean system seems to be descriptive in the world of Physical reality (again with the small r). For the most complete intepretation, I generally consider BOTH.

I don't know if this makes sense.. but I'll be happy to clarify anything if you have more questions.

Blessings...
A

posted April 12, 2004 09:37 AM         

Umm.. no don't add the extra day, in no way does that make any sense to me. We have a calendar that is in popular, if "incorrect" use. We agree that it defines our reality, past, present and future; and for the most part we live according to it... so that would be the one to use.

What I mean here is that TIME has no validity except that which we agree upon. Einstein and many others much wiser than I have theorized, if not proven, that Time is not linear... so I say we go with what the majority have agreed upon. After all, that is what is being projected out into the ethers more often than anything else.

I am opposed to change for the sake of change alone, unless someone can convince me otherwise. So I say, with Penn and Teller.. that is BS and just to discount the assertion.

As to would 70 years of Kabalarian use make the 1 day thing so? I'd say only if you were a Kabalarian. If you buy into everything that they teach, then it WOULD be so for YOU.. but would their use make it so for the general populace who have never heard of them? No! We're too busy manifesting the calendar that we know and love. See what I mean!?

Hope that helps.

In the Light...
A

posted April 13, 2004 09:39 PM         

your signature has me intrigued--about the mind. are we not to escape the domination of our minds? i know the tyranny mine exerts when i try to meditate

posted April 14, 2004 01:45 AM         

Hrmm interesting question and one I'm not sure that I can answer definitively.

My thoughts... humans can relate to the word MIND, as we claim to be in posession of one and at least pretend to understand how it functions.

Spirit is a bit more etheral.. we can conceptualize it... but in order to do so, we need the MIND.

So I suppose it's like the Bard said, "a rose by any other name...".

I think we are supposed to overcome the little mind in favor of the more Universal MIND, but to say it dominates us I believe is in error. If that were the case, we would never be able to manifest magic or miracles. It takes an alignment with the ONE MIND (another name for God/dess, The All or whatever monicker you choose to apply to Higher Power) to be able to rise above the darkness that we create with the little mind to make practical use of the greater Mind.

Perhaps if you don't worry so much about overcoming the "domination of the mind" but instead focus on allowing the distractions to come and then simply putting them off to one side in favor of that which you are choosing to meditate upon? Make any sense?

Hope that helps a wee bit... it's the best I could do on short notice!

In the Light...
A

P.S. Perhaps you may want to read The Kybalion for yourself and see what you think. There is also a thread about The Kybalion in the Through the Looking Glass forum.

posted April 14, 2004 09:15 AM         

Trillian... thank you so much. You made my day!

In the Light...
A

posted April 15, 2004 10:02 PM         

My last thought here is on that saying about roses. You know this is 17 - the star of the magi and 8-point star of venus in Chaldea? So you have to wonder if given a different name, whether the romantic conatations we give to it would exist? I think not. But again, just me.

Dean.

ps. as an experiment I did the days of the week:

Monday: 22 - Submission - and Caution (adequate?)
Tuesday: 24 (I wouldn't expect this)
Wedenesday: 25 Discrimination and Analysis
Thursday: 26 Partnerships
Friday: 17
Saturday: 22
Sunday: 20 The Awakening

posted April 16, 2004 05:31 PM         

thanks for the reminder...i got a little way into it, decided it was exactly what i needed, and then got sucked back into this world that is "too much with us"