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sugarlightning
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posted May 23, 2004 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sugarlightning     Edit/Delete Message
My sister and I decided to check out a movie the other night, "Van Helsing" I thought it was pretty good, it looked like a staged fantasy comic book come to life. There are so many vampire movies in existence that it's mind boggling. And it poses a couple of questions in my mind, such as...do vampires truly exist besides the known vampire fetishists and psychic vampires? Or might they have existed maybe in some bygone era laying dormant beneath dusty, silent tombs? I wondered about that as we were driving home that...if enlightened immortals can exist then would it not also be a possibility that beings such as vampires do also? O_o

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Randall
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posted May 23, 2004 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
If by "exist," you mean in this particular space/time reality, then I would say probably not; however, I do feel that there are many strange alternate Uni-verses (far away from our current frequency) that parts of find their way into collective consciousness and end up as creative works of fiction in this world. Of course, with simultaneous time being what it is and the nature of Uni-verse after Uni-verse stacked upon one another almost infinitely, upon a much broader examination of the question, I would have to say probably so.

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purplezen
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posted May 24, 2004 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for purplezen     Edit/Delete Message
Hey sugarlightning, I wondered the same thing when I saw the movie "interview with a vampire"...if a vampire looked like brad pitt or tom cruise, then I hope they do exist in this universe

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trillian
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posted May 24, 2004 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Randall, a most excellent reply.

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LibraSparkle
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posted May 24, 2004 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
It's funny someone should post this. I was just thinking about this same thing last night. I decided I wanted to re-read The Witching Hour by Anne Rice. I've read most of The Vampire Chronicles. In the beginning of The Witching Hour one of the main characters runs into a man that works for the Talamasca (a secret agency that studies the occult and keeps tabs of it's members... psychics, witches, and vampires and much more).

I thought to myself how fascinating it would be if something like this actually exsisted. Wouldn't it be exciting to meet someone from such an agency that could answer questions like these?

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pixelpixie
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posted May 25, 2004 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Well, now, you just sent it up to the Universe, so who knows.
Please share (if you are allowed) your experiences when this happens!

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Yang
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posted May 25, 2004 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sugarlightning

Thanks for asking that question as I have been thinking about it for years and still don't come to a conclusive answer.
years ago, there was a period when their was constant vampire movies and series on tv(I think it started when BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER first came out on tv).Ever since then,I have been wondering.It blurred my line between reality and fantasy.To tell you the truth,I sincerely hope their aren't any out there as I dont want to think about vampires roaming the Earth looking for fresh blood.I think one night they might come knocking on my door.Then what?

Ps- I watched INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE on tv a few weeks ago and on a waiting list from the library to read the book.

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Irish Eyes
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posted May 25, 2004 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irish Eyes     Edit/Delete Message
LibraSparkle-

What makes you believe that a group like the Talamasca does not exist? I met a woman many years ago that is a physic for our government. She and a team of others investigates all types of paranormal activity. When I met her she was investigating a house for a family I knew. Talk about a job that requires dedication!

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LibraSparkle
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posted May 25, 2004 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Yang~ I warn you... they're addicting! It's a really long series, but each book is different from the last in many ways. The fact that they are vampires is really sorta just in the background. You really get to know and fall in love with the characters. They're sensual, witty, horrifying, loving, romantic, exciting, and above all entertaining.

The movie Queen of the Damned really p'd me off. It totally butchered the book. I think I may have enjoyed the movie otherwise.

Happy reading! Let me know what you think, and if you're going to continue the journey with Lestat and the many other vampiers and beings you will meet along the way.

Irish Eyes~ I kinda figured something along those lines does exist... but the Talamasca doesn't capture, dissect, and make it's "subjects" vulnerable the way I would imagine anything associated with any government would. The Talamasca just watches. Just stays informed. Collects evidence, but doesn't interfere. It's entirely possible that something like this does exist. Until what pixel said comes true, I will just have my fantasies.

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sugarlightning
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posted May 25, 2004 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sugarlightning     Edit/Delete Message
Goodevening everyone (^_^), I've read The Witching Hour that was a good book! So much history and depth that you would almost think Anne Rice actually researched an entire family history and threw in a little voodoo for extra mix. I'm positive something similar to the Talamasca does exist, there's a book called "Spiritual Politics" which explains what I mean. It has to do with the Invisible Government (Adepts working behind the scenes with people in power) and about how they've worked to help mankind in general, it's really good. And I agree with Yang lol I wouldn't want to meet a vampire either but I remember someone telling me that, everything that comes into existence in the material sense means that it does exist some place else... I think Randall could be rightO_o.


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Irish Eyes
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posted May 26, 2004 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irish Eyes     Edit/Delete Message
LiberalSparkle-

The woman I met and her fellow "teammates" only gather data. No disection or tampering with.

When I met her, the team was working on documenting the strange occurances in a house that a friend's cousin lived in. The team did all the background history research on the property but also contacted the spirits and "other thing" that the house contained. Eventually, the house was boarded up and no one is able to live there. The team did not preform anything to try to rid the land of what was there, they only made the family move after it was determined that it was a very active site and that the family was in danger if they stayed.

I guess that there is a chance that Anne Rice has also met or heard of such people. I personally think that the Talamasca is modeled in part after the Illuminati and the Knights Templar.

I agree that the books are wonderful. I love both the Vampire Cronicles and The Mayfair Witch's Stories.

And I too was not happy with the way Queen of the Damned was done as a film!

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paras
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posted May 26, 2004 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for paras     Edit/Delete Message
Anne Rice!

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Yang
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posted May 29, 2004 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message

Quite sexy yet deadly,hey?

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LibraSparkle
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posted May 30, 2004 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Yang... did you get the book yet?

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Randall
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posted May 31, 2004 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Cool pic!

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Yang
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posted June 01, 2004 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
No I haven't got the book yet-the library hasn't got it yet!WAITING WAITING...

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Yang
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posted July 03, 2004 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
I am still waiting for the book INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE but today I took out another book by Ann Rice called:VITTORIO THE VAMPIRE.

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LibraSparkle
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posted July 03, 2004 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Yang,

I bought the first several books at www.half.com.

They use Media Mail. The cheapest of all shipping. Also, Half.com sets the shipping fees, so the seller can't rip you off the way they can on Ebay.

I don't remember exactly what I paid for the books, but I know they were ALL under $4 a piece including shipping.

Couldn't hurt to check Ebay. You could get several of the books at once and find a decent seller who doesn't charge a fortune for shipping.

I recently bought the Flowers in the Attic sieries + some other VC Andrews books (9 total) on Ebay for $7.something including shipping.

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juniperb
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posted July 03, 2004 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
I am a closet Anne Rice fan

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Yang
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posted July 04, 2004 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks LibraSparkle for the advice.
BUT when I do get the book from the library,I will decide after I have read it to buy it or not

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BloodRedMoon
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posted July 06, 2004 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BloodRedMoon     Edit/Delete Message
I tend to think that they do exist.

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Battle of Evermore
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posted September 16, 2004 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Battle of Evermore     Edit/Delete Message
i really don't that anything that we humans dream up is impossible(or anything at all for that matter), i don't think we know how to. all myth springs from truth, even if in the end the myth is quite different from when it began, a story never gets retold the exact way it was the time before, so maybe our vision of vampires is a bit embellished from the real thing but i haven't got any reason not to believe that they didn't once exist, or as randall said they do in an alternate reality.

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LibraSparkle
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posted September 16, 2004 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
The real world Talamasca has yet to contact me

I sure wish they'd hurry up. I have loads of questions.

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Moon666Child
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posted November 07, 2005 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
being a person with deep intrest in vampires, I wish they existed, but as a mortal, I am not sure if I would apprecite if they really existed!

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Iqhunk
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posted November 07, 2005 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting view point from a kinky kundalinist: www.domin8rex.com/serpent/vault/vampire.htm

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