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iAmThat
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posted October 11, 2004 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Ever since I came across this number, I am fascinated and contemplate what it means.


Heres some important background if you are interested too.

If you have ever read Cargo Cult Science by Richard Feynman, you know that he believed that there were still many things that experts, or in this case, physicists, did not know. One of these 'unknowns' that he pointed out often to all of his colleagues was the mysterious number 137. This number is the value of the fine-structure constant (the actual value is one over one-hundred and thirty seven), which is defined as the charge of the electron (q) squared over the product of Planck's constant (h) times the speed of light (c). This number actually represents the probability that an electron will absorb a photon. However, this number has more significance in the fact that it relates three very important domains of physics: electromagnetism in the form of the charge of the electron, relativity in the form of the speed of light, and quantum mechanics in the form of Planck's constant. Since the early 1900's, physicists have thought that this number might be at the heart of a GUT, or Grand Unified Theory, which could relate the theories of electromagnetism, quantum mechanics, and most especially gravity. However, physicists have yet to find any link between the number 137 and any other physical law in the universe. It was expected that such an important equation would generate an important number, like one or pi, but this was not the case. In fact, about the only thing that the number relates to at all is the room in which the great physicist Wolfgang Pauli died: room 137. So whenever you think that science has finally discovered everything it possibly can, remember Richard Feynman and the number 137.

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Dr. Bill Riemers writes: classical physics tells us that electrons captured by element #137 (as yet undiscovered and unnamed) of the periodic table will move at the speed of light. The idea is quite simple, if you don't use math to explain it. 137 is the odds that an electron will absorb a single photon. Protons and electrons are bound by interactions with photons. So when you get 137 protons, you get 137 photons, and you get a 100% chance of absorption. An electron in the ground state will orbit at the speed of light. This is the electromagnetic equivalent of a black hole. For gravitational black hole, general relativity comes to the rescue to prevent planets from orbiting at the speed of light and beyond. For an electromagnetic black hole, general relativity comes to the rescue and saves element 137 from having electrons moving faster than the speed of light. However, even with general relativity, element 139 would still have electrons moving faster than light. According to Einstein, this is an impossibility. Thus proving that we still don't understand 137.

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iAmThat
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posted October 11, 2004 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Heres a spiritual explanation.

1 is the number of God (formless, power, unseen, the life , the creator)

3 is the number of trinity (1 became three).
Imagine how from the power(life) thought arose, the thoughts became intelligent words.

This trinity was yet to be manifested.

Also notice, 1 is the only number that does not have a beginning because nothing precedes 1. Someone may argue zero precedes one. Well Zero is an invention. There is nothing called nothingness.

Ok, will 1 end. No 1 is the basis of all numbers. 1 would never end. Can life exist without sun.

Someone would also argue that 1 may had a beginning from nothingness.

Hmmm... have to think of that, because anything that has a beginning has an end.

OK now the number seven. OK Let me think about it. Will be right back.

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posted October 12, 2004 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeshells     Edit/Delete Message
Hello, IAT,
I also dreamed about the number 137 last night, it add up to 11, and 11 is a master number. Still working on it as well, thanks for the info. Blessings, Sue

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iAmThat
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posted October 12, 2004 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Seeshels,
I am wondering, how did your dreaming state dream of that number? Were you reading about the number while you were wake?

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posted October 13, 2004 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeshells     Edit/Delete Message
Morning IAT, not sure where it came from, I dreamed of 135, 136, and 137. Don't remember
anything except those numbers. So I am waiting for futher info. Got any more on your end? Peace. Sue

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coldiron
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posted October 16, 2004 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coldiron     Edit/Delete Message
seven...

The number of notes on the scale or the number of Nafs stages to be traversed to attain the angelic state...

Ahh, what sweet celestial music is that?

The Song of the One carried on wind's delicate whisper?

Heard in the Triplex Unity of the soul?

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iAmThat
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posted October 16, 2004 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Seven is indeed a Mystical number
seven continents,
seven colors,
seven notes(do re me fa..),
seven chakra in body,
seven main orbiting heavenly objects,
seven oceans,
seven days of week
seven diatomic atoms (Oxygen, Hydrogen, Chlorine, ... Also similarity of elements after seven in the periodic table)

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iAmThat
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posted October 16, 2004 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
1 3 7


The three is testimony of the one in HEAVEN.

The three (soul, mind and body) is tesimony to the human-spirit here on EARTH.


PEACE


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iAmThat
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posted October 17, 2004 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Is there a computer science pattern also here:

1

2 + 1 = 3

3 + 3 + 1 = 7

4 + 7 + 3 + 1 = 15 (6)

5 + 15 + 7 + 3 + 1 = 31 (4)

6 + 31 + 15 + 7 + 3 + 1 = 63 (9)

7 + 63 + 31 + 15 + 7 + 3 + 1 = 127 (1)

8 + 127 + 63 + 31 + 15 + 7 + 3 + 1 = 255 (3)

9 + 255 + 127 + 63 + 31 + 15 + 7 + 3 + 1 = 511 (7)

10 + 511 + 255 + 127 + 63 + 31 + 15 + 7 + 3 + 1 = 1023 (6)


11 leads to 2047 (4)

12 leads to 4095 (9)
........


This pattern can be stated as a simple equation :

(2 raise to n) - 1 where n = 1, 2, 3,....


I think this equation also denotes the maximum number you can store in a n bit chip in a computer. Computer only remembers information as 0 and 1.

For example an 8 bit chip can store (2 raise to 8) - 1 = 255 as the largest number.
This number is stored as 11111111 in the computer.

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Petron
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posted October 17, 2004 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
that is the formula for mersenne numbers....


The Perfect Number Journey http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~novelway/MEW2/lesson1.html

mersenne numbers
note the corresponding binary forms
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/MersenneNumber.html


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in hebrew gematria, the words 'wheel' and 'qabala' add up to 137


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iAmThat
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posted October 19, 2004 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Mysteriously the 1 appeared. Self born.
She is in everything. When you see a sun, the sun light is like her, the sun(power) could be HIM (formless). The combination of the two is that He is a Writer of the Play of the Primordial Mother (His Ruh(soul)). Its hard to describe in words this relationship from a human point of view.

She is subtler than the subtle.
No one can see her but. She sees all.
She is in everyone.

The world moves as she ordains. She created the first three (the Triune God), after her love for HIM.

They all sing praises of her (the 1). Glorifying her.

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iAmThat
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posted October 21, 2004 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
In nature a prism explains this reality.

Take a look at this diagram:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prism_%28optics%29

See how when a ray is incident on a triangular prism. The light is split in to seven colors.

See the pattern 1(light) - trangular prism - seven colors of light

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posted October 21, 2004 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Suzume     Edit/Delete Message
the topic (i am your guru *crap*) is up to 137....

hmmmm....

scary

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juniperb
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posted October 21, 2004 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
It is said Ishmael lived to be 137 years old....

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If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot

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sesame
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posted October 21, 2004 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, now you've got me iAmThat uni-tri-seven. You could say Universe - Triune being (body/mind/soul) - projected seven something into the world. Emotions? Thoughts? I always believed 7 = God. Mystery. Magic. I always loved the 7 combinations as Linda talked of in Star Signs:

7 x 1 = 7
7 x 2 = 14 = 5
7 x 3 = 21 = 3
7 x 4 = 28 = 1
7 x 5 = 35 = 8
7 x 6 = 42 = 6
7 x 7 = 49 = 13 = 4
7 x 8 = 56 = 11 = 2
7 x 9 = 63 = 9

and so on. I love the continuous cout down of odds/evens/odds etc. 7's such a cool number.

Dean.

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iAmThat
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posted November 01, 2004 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Great. Dean.

Heres another interesting observation connected to seven and 360 degress of a circle.

1 * 360 = 360
2 * 180 = 360
3 * 120 = 360
4 * 90 = 360
5 * 72 = 360
6 * 60 = 360
7 * 51.428571428571428571428571..... = 360
8 * 45 = 360
9 * 40 = 360


Only seven does not divide a circle perfectly.

Seven is indeed a mystical number.

Also,
(circumference of a circle) divided (by its diameter)= pi

Also pi is the constant pi = 22/7 = = 3.14.....

Therefore a perfect circle does not exists.

Incidentally the outer angle of the Great Pyramid is 51 degree 51 minutes. Did it ring a bell for anyone?

Coming back to the circle.

22 = the 22 alphabet of Hebrew
= also the 22 keys in the Major arcana of the Tarot

If 7 is indeed the number of Man, of the divinity within.

What do we then conclude?



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juniperb
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posted November 10, 2004 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Excellent info

How goes the new job? Global implementation traveling must be an exciting adventure.I hope you can share here with us the adventures

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juniperb
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posted July 16, 2005 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
IAT, any updates to share?

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If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot

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iAmThat
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posted July 17, 2005 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Juni,

Thanks for salvaging it
I haven't made much progress.
To revise what we said earlier:

7 = The number of Man and of ALL

10 = The number of GOD, of HE

My thinking cap is still on

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amisha121877
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posted July 18, 2005 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amisha121877     Edit/Delete Message
1 = sun
3 = jupiter
7 = neptune

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