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sesame
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posted December 21, 2004 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Now this is getting pretty deep. Theorectically, and in fact practically, if you consider we are all one, but in many forms, then you are in fact everyone you see now - regardless of previous lives. I mean, how do you define a previous life? You could say it's the one soul passing back into "time", but there are many paradoxes here. 1. There is only one soul. 2. There is no time. This leads into the fact that we are everyone now. I mean, Linda's beliefs regarding Higher Selves ccompletely makes sense too, and in this sense, your previous "soul experiences" could relate to who you are now, but Ultimately, you are who you are right now. There is no other reality.

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merlinesque
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posted December 22, 2004 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for merlinesque     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I think my Higher self is every person I ever was.
I remember reading somewhere, that once a certain level of enlightenment is achieved every past existence is dissolved. Hmm...to my mind, there being no time, we are every person we ever were, as you say, right now. Therefore, it could mean that it is the karma and personality that is dissolved, in order for the person we chose to be, to truly Be. Hehe, probably not making any sense, but I'm writing as I think.

I'm not sure about us being everyone we see. My impression is that we are all part of each other, that the cosmic energy of life runs and binds us all, but still we are individuals.
Having talked about time, doesn't it go that until we are in total control of ourselves, earthly things will still control us? There is no time, but on this realm, perhaps even our souls are tied to it, along with the merry-go-round of reincarnation. Still I want to get off now, I'm dizzy.

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sesame
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posted December 22, 2004 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I love where this conversation is going. I was thinking about this this morning - re the individual soul paradox. There is another thread where someone asked about what the soul is recently, but anywho, it is a paradox. What is reffered to as the "Divine Dichotomy". Here are some:

We're all one, and yet all completey unique.
There is no time, and yet we can measure thousands of years, and no formulas to determine spacetime etc.
Love is all, and yet contains fear, hate etc. How is this so?

The only thing I don't exactly understand is where the creator comes into it - like is there an opposite of God? I don't believe so as God is all, but of course, where did she come from?

Anyhow, I'm getting sidetracked - you touched on a few things very interesting. One of which is karma. What if you predestined your life to go through a certain period of "karmic action/reaction". Half way through, you realise you don't care much care for this karma. Do you think it will just disappear, and if not, why not? I mean, what if karma is all about what we attract based on what we think we deserve - think being the operative word because really, we all deserve the best. But then even the best is subjective. I mean, your karma could be instantaneous based on what you attract at any given moment. If you choose not to attract anything, then so be it.

Heaps of Love,
Dean.

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posted December 23, 2004 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for merlinesque     Edit/Delete Message
Hello

I think that it's within anyone's grasp to eventually be able to know that karmic debts are no longer a required action. That if the Higher Self decides, as you say, that a particular string of karma is no longer needed for any purpose pertaining to cosmic cause and effect or even self-education, it can fall away, as if it never was.
I take that line of thought from where Linda mentions that once a person has reached a certain level of spiritual evolution (can't remember exact wording or where in Star Signs) that all things such as time and astrological influence will no longer shape that person. I would guess the same would be true of karma.

I was thinking, whilst out doing my Christmas shopping today, after reading your post here mentioning the soul, I would liken our place like a whole plate of gelatin/Jelly/Jello...the Jelly was whole at one point, then pieces were seperated and taken away, but even though they are now very individual pieces, all looking different, but made of the very same substance, those pieces are still very much apart of each other, one together. Because they came from the same force that made them what they are. Some pieces of jelly vibrate faster than others, wobbling along on the spoon...perhaps God is the holder of the spoon. The maker of the jelly...the plate that holds the jelly. Hehe...

I often wonder who God really is. I wish to know Him sincerely, and to understand certain things.
I read that, God was the first, then He (or She hehe) made Divine Beings, Gods and Goddesses, who in turn made their own creations...those creations I think are us. I also think it is those Gods and Goddesses that Linda speaks of in her book.

Back to karma and whether we choose it...I think we both cause it and in some special circumstances, also create it specifically for a pre-destined purpose. I have a problem with an addiction to a computer game, it's the silliest thing, I don't like the game yet I am drawn to it by my lower-ego. When my higher-ego gets a look in I withdraw from the game and the battle goes on and on. I considered the other day, that somewhere, somehow, I chose this battle, that not really knowing what I would choose, I hoped this me would make the right decision. It's purpose, I believe is to focus my mind on what is real and what isn't. And to finally recognise the difference between my past self and the present me.
And with people, a strange feeling of pre-arranged events between myself and a person I came across recently. Another, Higher self poke in the head saying "hey wake up."

Heaps of Love back, and Merry Christmas.
I don't think it's a coincidence we are drawn to sparkling lights this time of the year. Almost like a rememberance that Light is part of us in some way.

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sesame
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posted December 23, 2004 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, the little fairies of our origin

What game are you addicted to? Yes, we are all like jelly, and yet, very unique - like the frequency thing, but simultaneously completely equal, masters and paupers - where all peices experiencing life. Life is God. And yet, everything's God. Death is God. When you try to understand who God is, it's funny that so many paths lead inwards - to the God within. That is the true God, for without your personality or inquiring mind, you would never look for God. Hence by looking, and undestanding that you are God, you realied you are everything. And yet, there is still yet to learn. It amazes me how we can say God is all, but still go about thinking of Earthly things or problems. We still live, dream, cry, love. Relearn. Reforget. Reexperience. In fact, another name for God is Ra, sometimes written Re.

The Gods you speak of may have originated (in it's most popular modern understanding) as the Ennead of Egyptian Gods - Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Nepthus, Isis, and Seth. Horus was the first "Man-God" to walk Earth as a man, and yet, the offspring of Osiris and Isis. This link goes into more detail: http://www.nemo.nu/ibisportal/0egyptintro/1egypt/index.htm . Linda had certain beliefs regarding Osiris, Isis, and Horus as well. I think she related Horus to Jesus - there are many similarities. Early egyptian art of Isis holding Horus is so similar to Mary holding Jesus. Its kinda freaky. But anyhow, there are many stories out there hey?

Merry Christmas,
Dean.

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posted December 24, 2004 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for merlinesque     Edit/Delete Message
Hello

Sims 2, is the bane of my addiction. I have many Jeckell and Hyde moments where a window opens in my mind and depending on which ego I'm in touch with, it will jump through that window. The lower-ego will get me to install the game (again) and I honestly feel I can't stop myself. Then when my higher-ego steps in, I immediately come to my senses and uninstall the thing (again). It's a merry-go-round of idiocy. The last time I uninstalled this game, I destroyed the disc as well, so since then when my lower-ego has popped up it's hungry head, it's been unable to satisfy itself. Lol...It's important for me to conquer because when I do satisfy that lower-ego with the game, all hell seems to break lose within. That little weakness lets all of my negative personality seeping through. The elements of all my worst points that cause unhappiness. Sims 2, for some reason, is the doorway, a piece of maya I have to destroy forever.

I don't know who God is, or how to percieve Him in my mind, but you are right all paths leading to God, do end up leading within. And then what is found inside, ends up radiating outwards and affecting our everyday decisions and actions.

Yes, you could very well be right, about the Egyptian Gods, it would not surprise me at all.
Thank you very much for the link, I will take a look at it. Anything to do with Egypt interests me no end. I went to Egypt in June this year, and I've never felt more at home in a foreign country than I did there. The only thing that really disappointed me was that there was so much rubbish around the Pyramids, bottle tops and cigarette butts.
There is many stories out there, I'm starting to see that even in some of the most seemingly obscure ones, there are small sparkling pieces of truth.

Love & Light.

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posted December 24, 2004 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpbaby     Edit/Delete Message
Yes I 've always believed God lived within (and out) also. I guess ever since I was little I've had trouble believing God to be one thing or at least anything Tangible like a human. Maybe God as a whole is just an energy form like electricity and it (God) generates pure Love(Fulfillment) continually. As humans we are always connected to this frequency although we may neglect, abuse, misinterperate, what this Higher Power within us is.
I know I sometimes forget it is there, and then the Universe reminds me in countless ways.

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posted December 24, 2004 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpbaby     Edit/Delete Message
*edit* oops double post

The number of this post is a little ominous too. gulp!

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sesame
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posted December 28, 2004 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm, yes, not sure if I stated it in this thread, but Linda once said God is Love, and his partner is Light. Ultimately the same thing, but kinda romantic hey?

Merlinesque, I have some photos of my trip in January at www.megspace.com/science/porsche911/galleries.htm .

It could be you are trying to see the God in you through Sims 2 - ie you get to control someone else as you are "controlled" by your higher self. Is it possible to clock this game? Don't you just die? I bet expansion packs will come out to be gurus or spiritual healers so you can walk the Earth healing others through your sim powers. Then, you will litterally take on the karma of the character and experience the healing projected by other characters through your character. Isn't it alreay online? The weirdest thing hey, to play a sim over the net talking to other sims. Next step is to have your sim play the sims and connect to a virtual internet where other vitrual sims all come and play.


Oooooohhh. Spooooky.

Dean.

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