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Ra
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posted December 04, 2004 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been thinking about this for some time, and cannot really come up with an answer that feels right. I have a young friend with diabetes and I just have no doubt that it is karmically related, but I cannot seem to see the connection ... overindulgence is all I can think of, but that just doesn't seem quite right.

Any ideas? What past-life condition could manifest as diabetes?

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Motherkonfessor
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posted December 04, 2004 04:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Indulgence could be one thing to look at.

Or, just an idea...maybe its karmically tied to ignoring oneself, one's needs in a previous life. How many people die young simply from neglecting themselves, what their body needs to stay healthy?

With diabetes, you have no choice BUT to pay attention to things like nutrition, exercise, mental state... or at very least, to give oneself insulin and go to the doctor regularly. Perhaps the soul wants a chance in this life to live a longer life, and is forcing itself to pay close attention to the Physical Self.

Or, i could have no idea what i am talking about.....


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Yang
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posted December 04, 2004 04:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Ra for asking that question!

I have diabetes(type 1) for nine years now(Sep 1995) and I am only 21!

I have also asked that question too in the past and haven't come up with a suitable answer.
BUT you cannot get diabetes simply by over-indulgence or eating sugary foods all the time-other factors come into play.
Diabetes is either hereditary, cause by too little exercise,come as a result of severe shock( such as an unexpected death in the family.
In my case, the doctor STILL doesn't know how I contracted it. It's a mystery.
No one else in my family has diabetes.

Believe me, I hate it still.


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Balance is the Key to Life

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Irish Eyes
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posted December 04, 2004 07:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good question RA!


I agree with the others about this. It is to teach one to care for themselves. I have diabetes too and know that it was God's way of telling me to take care of myself.

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neostar
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posted December 04, 2004 09:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ra,
Of course it's related, everything is related to karma, karma is energy, everything operates through energy, and energy alone, which is indescribable.

Past lives, i feel is irrelevant. Only because it does not matter in the now.
If you knew what past-life conditions would manifest diabetes in the next is irrelevent. Karma is not a law, karma IS.
Things that just ARE, are above human perception. Forget karma, people just need to learn to respond, not to react.
Why do you think at birth, the past is shut off? And we think we have a right to know!

I have a few health afflictions, and I accept it, BUT, we have to live through the energy cycles until it's balanced. I don't accept the fact that many of us are truly balanced, we in the now, are always creating new karmic patterns, because we are always asking the wrong questions, instead of just being aware that tomorrow is today.

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26taurus
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posted December 05, 2004 01:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ra,

I dont know if youve heard of Louise Hay, but she has a book called Heal Your Life and in it she talks about the correlation of diseases and their connection to mental states. I found this:

Diabetes Longing for what might have been. A great need to control. Deep sorrow. No sweetness left.
Abdominal cramps Fear. Stopping the process.
Aging Problems Social beliefs. Old thinking. Fear of being one's self. Rejection of the now.
Bone breaks/fractures Rebelling against authority.
Fatigue Resistance; boredom. Lack of love for what one does.
Female Problems Denial of the self. Rejecting femininity. Rejection of the feminine principle.
Fever Anger. Burning up.
Indigestion Gut level fear, dread, anxiety. Griping and grunting.
Sciatica Being hyprocritical. Fear of money and the future.
Sore Throat Holding in angry words. Feeling unable to express the self.
Teeth Problems Longstanding indecisiveness. Inability to break down ideas for analysis and decisions.
Vaginitis Anger at mate. Sexual guilt. Punishing the self.
Warts Little expressions of hate. Belief in ugliness

Here's another interesting link I found: http://www.snowlionpub.com/chapters/hethba.htm

Wish I could help more.

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neostar
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posted December 05, 2004 08:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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thirteen
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posted December 06, 2004 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would look at the emotions that having the current illness creates. Then look to see how the person might have created those same emotions in another person some lifetime ago.

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Ra,Yang and Irish Eyes, when we look at the word disease, its actually Dis-ease, so what are you or your friend having Dis-ease over? yes Dis-ease can be over indulgence, unhealthy life style, overweight etc, but there is a solution.

if it is karmic, it can be fixed. its amazing doctors say they dont know what causes, the american diabetes assoc said:

"The cause of diabetes continues to be a mystery, although both genetics and environmental factors such as obesity and lack of exercise appear to play roles."

a mystery, they dont know anything. I believe they try, but they dont get deep into the soul. if you go to a doctor in the states, you wait in the waiting room, you wait in his office, he/she comes in and ask you the problem, they leave, you wait again, and then you leave. no social skills, no emotions. this is the problem.

I believe in magical things, not hocus pocus or such, but I have seen things that are wonderful.

if it is karma, is it defined as linda said about your the four and karma:

" A rare few have chosen the number 4 as the birth channel are illuminated souls who have erased all past Karma by balancing it in previous lives, and have incarnated in the present existence to "Rescue" a Twin Self who has become-or in danger of becoming-a fallen angel. In such cases, the 4 vibration is chosen to aid in keeping this person on the path of light; to lessen the temptation to form new, negative Karma, therby also becoming a fallen angel in the attempt to rescue the fallen other half of the self."

now I am looking beyond the four issue, because we all must have a twin self that watches and warns us of what to do. Did the Twin self warn us of health issues?

Well I believe there is always a solution or something close to it, you can be led to the road, you just have to keep walking.

lets look at the body,
its so wonderful your body,it is the ultimate mystery to some, but we know that we can go within ourselves and talk to our body, to know what it needs.

the nervous system is the key.
you have a nervous system, messages are sent back and forth through your spinal cord to the brain and and back down again. you have a central nervous system, peripheral nervous system, and autonomic nervous system. all playing important parts in the driving of your body everyday, its so amazing, because these systems control your motor functions as well as thought, emotion, etc.
we have the brain, cerebrum, brainstem, spinal cord, , then you have the spine that holds the spinal cord, you have 12 cranial nerves in your brain, massive amounts of spinal nerves and brances, and they are going all along your spine to send messages to parts of your body, and the kicker is, some of these nerves and branches connect to different organs and functions in your body.

if you ever have seen old karate movies, the guy will hit the guy two or three times and the person will die, seems kinda impossible, but its not, that person hit the opponent with such force that it sent a massive shock to the nerves or meridians and what ever organ that nerve or meridian control, it was either injured,,or exploded!

You are in control of your body, you can tell it to do anything,and fix anything, only it takes a leap of faith. a big leap that we humans on this wonderful planet are afraid to take.

I am telling you this because I know that some things can help you. well a thing. I am a Clinical Massage Therapist, I know that if you get massage or your friend gets it, it will help them with their diabetes. it does wonders,and it boost you up to fight it, to win a longer life, one where you dont HATE it, and arent afraid of it or depressed. TOUCH is the key.

having someone massage your back, your spinal section this is stimulating nerves and sending messages of pure love that someone is trying to help you. jumpstart you. why is it that a lot of diabetics lose their feet and such to amputations-because the blood circulation stops going to the feet and they lose blood, nutrients etc. I bet you a massage therapist can get blood flowing back to your feet. done it, seen it done, to diabetics!! if your a diabetic and your overweight or you have a larger tummy because of the dis-ease, chances are you cant massage your feet like someone sitting in front you can. this will help to save those limbs and such, and thats a execise. the body is fascinating, if you put your feet together and look in a mirror at the soles, you are actually looking at your body. the medial part of your feet below your big toe, thats your scapulas on both sides, when your feet are together, the middle is your spinal column, it has the same amount of bones as your spine! and your lower foot, thats your sacrum. and all the organs and nerves and everything is in your feet. so if someone massages your feet and your body i think they are going to do you some justice. it works, there are contraindications in massage pertaining to diabetes, but a experienced massage therapist will see them if they occur and stop, but its rare they come up, because your body your soul is saying "whipppeeeee"

now back to the 12 cranial nerves. everyone knows about spock and the mind meld......I know the whole worlds knows about star trek, dont deny it!!! well the mind meld actually works..kinda. listen:

there is a technique called Cranial Sacral therapy. do you see it? its from the cranial to the sacrum all in between. this massage technique uses about 5 grams of pressure, the weight of a american nickel, upon your skull. the therapist will put the fingers in different positions and the skull will pull away from fascia, and restrictions that are stopping us from going on. we have so much trauma and now one knows it,but it goes to our heads, our jaws. what do you do when you get in a car crash, before impact you brace and grind your teeth together, all that stress in your head. the finger techniques that are administered to your skull, in different parts, stimulate movement in the skull partials, and bone in the middle of your skull, under your brain,and all those cranial nerves which are the begining of the highway all the way down to our sacrum.

the sacrum symbolizes, security, sensuality and sexuality. and it locks up alot...from stress, from dis-ease and fear. you have three big butt muscles and they help you walk, run, jump, other things, they apart of the bridge that conects your trunk to your top. these babies attach to your sacrum and other bones. the sacrum is about the size of your hand with your fingers together, thats a small bone holding all that muscle!!! some times it locks up from emotional processes, but cranial sacral can actually free it!!! pressure on your skull and a hand under your bum can make this baby move anew.

if you look around the word indigenous people dance their delights away, they move there hips, their pelvis is free and their sacrum, and their rate of birth is higher than other cultures in the world who dont dance freely, but are very stiff in posture and attitude.

i know that Linda has talked about being as a child....free and unlimited....this is what we need to be, in order to be invinsible, to live a immortal life.

you guys need to find a massage therapist or a cranial sacral therapist,sometimes a massage therapist is good at both. its very intense and very magical, I promise you. it will change you life and you will meet your Twin Self.

Now maybe some of you are thinking, "well Linda died of Diabetes!" Well yes she did, and what Dis-ease did Linda have in her life? Sally...not knowing where she was, you have some saying this is your daughters body, but you dont believe it, you know she is alive. this can hurt a person. I know that if my daughter was missing and was brought upon a body that didnt look like here, well I would feel the same, my mission would go on to find her, until it ended me with sadness.

I dont know what other Dis-ease she had, but I know we are all human (sometimes) and we have Dis-ease in our lives, but we can win the battle and destroy the DIS and live with ease and simplicity.

I believe Chapter nine in Star Signs. When you read a good persons words, you know when they are speaking from their heart, you know they are telling you something, that they probably already know, but they cant show you the short way to it, you have to work and see the road for all its pot holes and fix them and finally get to your destiny.

I believe that you can fix anything in your body, anything, but you have to believe and you have to say, "help me when I sleep, tell me the secrets so I do not weep....anymore" where there is a will, there is a way.

I believe that if you pursue that avenue and go find a GOOD massage, one that Cares and loves every person that comes though there door, if you believe that they can help you to help yourselve, your life will change eternally.

Hope my big mouth helped some. lol

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Ra
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posted December 07, 2004 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have all helped a great deal. Thank you. You all have given me more to think about.

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sesame
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posted December 07, 2004 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I agree with everyone. Ever since I heard about diabetes it just made me thank that God want these people to learn to take care of themselves. As far as I'm aware, exercise and good food solves all the problems doesn't it? I can't say I do these, and I wonder if I'll get it later, but by then hopefully I'll fly straighter. Otherwise, it will be enforced by God I guess

Dean.

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HRH-FishAreFish
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posted June 11, 2013 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HRH-FishAreFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember the Taurus/Scorpio connection of the onset of male puberty and voice change?

Diabetes has a Virgo/Pisces connection.

I've always thought the word "diabetes" to be a curious word druid. Sounds like...DIE-A-BEAT-ES...implying itself to 'beating death'.

I don't think gestational diabetes has been brought up yet...so I mention it now to ruminate upon for a spell.

LOve & LIght,

Stephanie
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posted June 12, 2013 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Ra
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posted June 12, 2013 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks HRH-FishAreFish

He was a scorpio, and he died several years ago. He was a musician, among other things.

Rest in Peace, Bruce.

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