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Topic: Relativity of Truth
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NeoKitty
Knowflake Posts: 298
From: Heaven
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 05, 2005 11:27 PM
 
Relativity of Truth
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Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise.
Seek what they sought. Basho. Truth is relative because perception is limited and partial.
The non-linear manifested universe is the domain of relativity,
part of the world illusion.
Every state of being is dependent to something else. The unmanifested universe is the absolute domain, beyond
consciousness.
Everything that deals with life, consciousness or form is relative,
not absolute.
Attachments are quite futile, and flexibility is necessary for progress. Those who are relatively coherent and able to proceed sensibly
in the face of relative phenomena,
are able to evolve much more effectively. View things relativistically and embrace the absolute.
Progressive meditation leads to detachment.
It is the nature of the absolute to recede, and of the
evolving lives to approach that absolute. God is LOVE as the TRUTH, the only correct response to any
circumstance, expression of free will in TRUTH;
any other consideration is an expression of
FREE WILL in ILLUSION, what we think as opposed to, what we
know to be TRUE.
Faith will carry one through any trial of illusion. It is eternal and will reveal itself at the correct time.
The truth lies in reversing the supposition that all has been
predetermined. The quiet mind comes in contact with the TRUTH.
Anything with foundation in falsehood cannot last. We are tirelessly trying to find the truth in the universe.
Truth lies inside the heart of human beings, in the all-knowing,
non-judgemental higher Self. In communication with an inner resource, contacting an inner guide.
Trust that the wiser part of you has found a way to get in touch. To know myself is to know the miracle of my life; my virtues,
my strengths and my role as creator of my own experience.
You will begin to create a new concrete reality
of health and happiness.
 "May you always swim in the ocean of abundance while
manifesting your own divine destiny"
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LeoSweetHeart
Knowflake Posts: 170
From: San Diego, CA USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 12:01 AM
That was a really nice reminder to me and it actually relates perfectly to a problem I'm facing right now in my life. I needed to hear it  One thing I'm a little unclear about is, the title and parts of the quote describe truth as being relative, then say that it is the only real thing that rescues one from illusion? I'm asking this because I really need to understand this right now. I have always felt that if you tell the absolute truth, think purely and in the interest of everyone and put faith in God then you are following the right path. But what if that truth is really painful to someone else? Is truth relative? I think if truth starts being relative, than where do you draw the line and who can you trust? I agree with the quote when it says God is LOVE and TRUTH, but then how can Truth be relative? I think I am misunderstanding something, can you clear things up for me? Thanks Did I mention I love your strings, they always come at the right time. Hey get out of my head! haha  
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NeoKitty
Knowflake Posts: 298
From: Heaven
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 05:29 PM
Hey Leo!,
Excellent questions, your a bright spark!
And I love ya!
It's early morning for me at the moment, and I really want to reply because I think I may have an answer that seems sound, it may come as obvious but, I'd like to take care before I start making assumptions, and of course this may start to become interesting thread, don't you think?  I'll be back after a coffee, or two... p.s I'd like to hear what you have to say 26T!
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LeoSweetHeart
Knowflake Posts: 170
From: San Diego, CA USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 05:42 PM
Neo Kitty!!! Morning? whats the time zone in heaven anyway?? hehee  Okay can't wait to hear this..yes I think there must be something else in coffee besides caffeine, like it magically turns you into a grumpy inarticulate monster to a very alert, insightful person just like that! haha It probably will be obvious when I hear it, but I somehow missed the bus on that one. Maybe I should go get some coffee too oh yea and I think this will be a popular thread  I think you have a talent for writing catchy strings Love ya too
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NeoKitty
Knowflake Posts: 298
From: Heaven
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 06:35 PM
Dont know if im a catchy type really, I don't attract alot of people, only a couple of really nice, and genuine types of people, so it's not quantity,rather it's quality.
I used to wish I was popular and have alot of friends, instead of just one or two....hang on..Im not talking about the strings...oh well ...
...runs off to grab that coffee...
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NeoKitty
Knowflake Posts: 298
From: Heaven
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 08:15 PM
Okay, I think the coffee has settled in.Your first question was this
quote:
the title and parts of the quote describe truth as being relative, then say that it is the only real thing that rescues one from illusion?
and I believe it's relating to this
quote:
God is LOVE as the TRUTH, the only correct response to any
circumstance, expression of free will in TRUTH;
any other consideration is an expression of
FREE WILL in ILLUSION, what we think as opposed to, what we
know to be TRUE.
Faith will carry one through any trial of illusion.
What that says to me is that Truth is what is absolute, that is what IS.
Any response to a circumstance that you express with LOVE is in TRUTH, which is an expression of free will in TRUTH.
Any other expression NOT of LOVE, is still an expression of Free will, but in ILLUSION, that illusion is what we think in terms of why and how. FAITH in LOVE, and using LOVE in all responses will rescue yourself from ILLUSION. ie. embracing love in your reason, will and senses.Your next question was quote:
But what if that truth is really painful to someone else? Is truth relative? I think if truth starts being relative, than where do you draw the line and who can you trust?
If TRUTH is painful to someone else, that is their OWN ILLUSION, Truth will always be relative, ie. the eye of the beholder. Like beauty. If you offer TRUTH with love as the essence the receiver will benefit from it, whether they feel pain or joy. We all have our own Truth-o-meter, and to TRUST, for myself, I know, when I sense LOVE, then I know the intentions are TRUTHFUL, and there are no other hidden motives. Your other question was quote:
I agree with the quote when it says God is LOVE and TRUTH, but then how can Truth be relative?
There are many TRUTHS you may come across, and what are YOUR TRUTHS may not be some-one elses TRUTH, depending on perception entirely, thus being relative, GOD on the other hand, being of LOVE & LIGHT, ie. he is LIGHT, she is LOVE, is absolute, and so, absolute TRUTH. Can we comprehend this? I don't beleive so. TRUTH is above Mind, but we cannot stop ourselves from searching for it, and trying to understand it, then understanding we know not, ie. we are endless galaxies, we have seen but one star ....and that is what makes us individually unique with our own Truths, no wrong, no right, only LOVE & LIGHT. IP: Logged |
NeoKitty
Knowflake Posts: 298
From: Heaven
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 09:03 PM
I also want to make this clear relating to be able to TRUST.. quote:
We are tirelessly trying to find the truth in the universe.
Truth lies inside the heart of human beings, in the all-knowing,
non-judgemental higher Self.In communication with an inner resource, contacting an inner guide.
Trust that the wiser part of you has found a way to get in touch.
 If your honest with yourelf, tapping into this source will be an easier entrance. edit: i noticed i wrote your-elf, instead of self...hehe IP: Logged |
LeoSweetHeart
Knowflake Posts: 170
From: San Diego, CA USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 10:35 PM
Ah hah! Your saying Truth stems only from Love, it is never a seperate entity. That is very true, you Trust those who Love you and know that your safe with them. OKay that makes perfect sense...I was relating to something very specific in my life as you could prob tell when I said " what is telling the truth hurts someone?" But that is another story, I'm thinking about making a seperate thread about it, though it is very personal  I'll write more later, I have to go a slumber party Thanks for taking the time to exlain..I'll have a thoughtful response for you tom. Love ya lots! MOnica IP: Logged |
NeoKitty
Knowflake Posts: 298
From: Heaven
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 10:45 PM
Yep your spot on... Yeah telling Truth althought it hurts would be a good thread, I'd love to hear everyone's views. Enjoy the slumber party!
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NeoKitty
Knowflake Posts: 298
From: Heaven
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 10, 2005 09:09 PM
Where's everyone else's ideas?...I'd love to hear more from the wise knowflakes!  IP: Logged | |
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