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Kat
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posted March 28, 2005 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kat     Edit/Delete Message
I was wondering if there is anyone out here that is familiar with this book? What are your views and insight do you have about this?

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FishKitten
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posted March 28, 2005 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message
Its basically about manipulation of the physical world through use of rituals. It works, but there are other ways of realizing that all is one without repeating ritual words all day. It is an interesting concept and exercize. It is actually based on ancient mystery religions that taught initiates to utilize ritual sounds, vibrations, and thoughts to tap into a different reality.

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Gia
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posted March 29, 2005 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
I think it's a fantastic book. It helps you to move beyond yourself and the illusion that all of reality is just what you see.

I think everyone should study it.

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Gia
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posted March 29, 2005 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
I profoundly disagree with you on this one Fishkitten. Please let me explain why.

First of all the whole purpose of the book is to teach through demonstration. YOU actually do the work for YOU. It cannot be taught, as nothing really can be. All things have be Self realised to have any value at all.

We have been indoctrinated for eons about our salvation. The course makes you realise that there are no accidents in salvation. There is no separatness between you and God. The affirmations allow this this knowledge to sink in. It's not ritualistic any more than normal prayer or meditation, such as saying a rosary,or a mantra, really. It's whole object if I had to sum it up would be this, the course would not have to subsitute in the first place if people didn't attach signifigance to symbols so much. It is a tool. It is more important than the Bible in my opinion. FAR MORE IMPORTANT.

Yes, I do hear some of you gasp as you may. However, doing the course will propel you to greater heights. It is not a religon nor a movement though some people have tried to make it seem that way, sadly. It is not the only way, but it's the fastest way in my opinion to God.

It teaches love and forgiveness, in many ways it's a self therapy book. There is an enormous difference between the course and virtually every other spiritual thought system in exsistence, from ancient Eygptian, to Hinduism, Koran, New Testament etc. Everyone of them talks of duality and a separatness. The course will help YOU demonstrate to YOURSELF this is not so. It will show you true AT-ONE-MENT.

It combines physics, healing, nature. I challenge everyone to do the course and then tell me it didn't change them.

Gia


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Aen
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posted March 29, 2005 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aen     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Gia,

This is really strong statement from you.
I'm seriously intrigued. Run search in Amazon and found a book "A Course in Miracles" -- by Foundation of Inner Peace. Is this what you are talking about?

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FishKitten
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posted March 29, 2005 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message
Gia...I'm glad you got so much from the Course In Miracles. I'm not sure we actually disagree all that much. It does encourage people to see through illusions and to be self teaching, which I firmly agree with. I think where we seperate is with my use of the word ritual. Any time one is supposed to repeat a set pattern of words or sounds at specified intervals or for a certain number of repetitions each day, that is, by definition, ritual. (And that includes any Christian rutuals as well.) I'm not saying that ritual is wrong. In fact, it works quite well. I'm just saying that there are also other ways to discover enlightened thought that do not involve such specified behaviour. The thing that I like most about the book is that it illuminates the fact that we are not seperated from God (or the source or whatever one wants to call it). I guess my previous answer was too short to say all I meant to say. Sorry for any confusion.

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wildflwrs
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posted March 29, 2005 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wildflwrs     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I don't want to knock something I've never tried...I know quite a few people that find their peace in the Course of Miracles. It seemed to "cerebral" for me...but I do believe each person has to find his/her own path...and there sure are plenty to choose from. But these two friends that I have that are into it seem to live in denial...that doesn't mean that it doesn't have value for most people tho. To each his/her own, I say!

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Kat
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posted April 02, 2005 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm FishKitten are we talking about the same book? I'm trying to recall where it has you repeat words. Perhaps your referring to the daily exercises.

I have not read the entire book, but I find many parts of it to be helpful. My Unity church uses the CofM quite a bit. I wish there was a "Cliff Notes" version that everyone could get. I found the concepts of asking yourself if your coming from love or fear in a situation incredibly helpful. Also, the definition of the ego as not only feeling separation, superiority, specialness, important, right, etc. but small, incapable, lack,"I'm wrong" attitude to be freeing. There is nothing "godlike" in playing small.
I feel if people got the basic concepts of the ego and separation from the course, wars would a thing of the past." I can choose____ instead of this." It's very empowering.

Yes I can see your point of view, Gia, I know many that feel that CofM is more important than the bible. Unity churches are split between whether the bible or CofM should be the official "book" of the church. I think CofM can do much more to transform the world. However, the bible is the basis of understanding for it and hold many truths.
I'm also taken aback by the section of CofM stating that God did not create us since God would not have made us, this world, so imperfectly to kill and die. Many Christians consider CofM to be the "devil's work" because of this. It puts a damper on being accepted by many Christian, because this runs contrary to all they believe. God supposedly created us, they do not believe that We created us - this human body/separation.(Which makes me want the cliff notes version even more.)

I also wish that it was written more abbreviated. the Course repeats over and over the same message in different ways. I personally don't think Jesus would talk this way. I've read some of the sections that were edited out of the text and I have concluded that they are not "Jesus" talking.
Many were upset that the COURSE was edited just like the bible, but if I were editor, I would have ditched them as well. To me this book is from the authors' higher consciousness. To say a book has been channeled through Jesus makes people want to avoid it, though there are good messages

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