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Topic: I want to face Fear, once and for all
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Christinaeavynwarner Knowflake Posts: 454 From: USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 06, 2005 10:21 PM
Does anyone know how to do it? I don't care if I get scared, really scared, or if it turns out horribly (I'll go on with protection) but I want to stop being so afraid. I'm sick of fear, and I want to stop it, to make it go away. Last night, I had the wildest idea that I could ask to see Fear, and have a conversation with him, and ask him to release me. It was a crazy idea, right? Either way, it didn't work. I went to bed afraid of what I would dream up. I got nothing...::sigh:: except I woke up feeling not as happy as I was yesterday...but that may be because I've got a cold...can anyone help? IP: Logged |
lovely* Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: CA Registered: Jul 2003
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posted April 07, 2005 01:12 AM
"Fear"...can you elaborate?Does this fear manifest itself physically? As in sweating, rapid heart-beat, sleeplessness? I'm wondering if these are anxiety attacks? IP: Logged |
Johnny Knowflake Posts: 1041 From: Colorado, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted April 07, 2005 01:17 AM
What are you afraid of? Fear's not always a bad thing, you know. For me, I think it is giant squid. Really, really scary. But see, it's a good idea to avoid them, too! IP: Logged |
thirteen Knowflake Posts: 640 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: May 2004
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posted April 07, 2005 08:30 AM
Something I read a long time ago and has stayed with me for all these years. " Feel the fear and do it anyway". In other words let the feeling of fear be there but don't let it stop you from doing things and taking risks. When you feel afraid say it out loud to yourself. Example: If you have to give a speech or something, just before you go say to yourself " Im really scared" it immediately calms the feeling down. I suffer from general fears of everything but i tend to stuff it down. Im always looking for ways to not let it control me. Im thinking of making a list of every fear I ever felt to see if that will release some of the pressure. I think what you did was a great start. IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 3171 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted April 07, 2005 08:31 AM
yes, fear. fear has many forms or lack of and many faces, which fear do you speak of?IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 3171 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted April 07, 2005 08:37 AM
The quest for knowledge can lead to first terror and then ecstasy. It will turn your preconceptions every which way.As said in "Dune", "fear is the mind killer". But it can be embraced and moved through. Warning, it is not an easy path. IP: Logged |
Christinaeavynwarner Knowflake Posts: 454 From: USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 07, 2005 09:34 PM
I don't know. I didn't exactly meet him, but I had a picture of him. He was just like any other man I know. Kinda tall, string beeny. Sad. Lonely. And frightened. Civilized, oddly enough. No, not anxiety attacks. I wasn't sweaty, but my mind was conjuring up images of things I was afraid of, and that made my heart beat faster. I'm afraid of a few things; madness, insanity, ghosts, deaths of loved ones, grief, turning into a monster, having my world the way I know it be wrong, destroying someone else's life unknowingly, bugs, heights, None of the fears are keeping me from doing anything, exactly, its just that I aviod things I'm afriad off, and I don't feel like doing that anymore. I want to...I don't want to abolish it, not from the world, just from my life, because I have no right to abolish him, unless he wishes to leave himself. But I want a release from him...you know what I mean? The quest for knowledge? fayte.m, do you know how? I will do anything. I'm not at all brave, and it'll probably take me years to recover from a mast amount of fear, or hardships, but I'll do it (unless it invovled bad consequences that big to afford) I'd like to come to terms with fear, and not have him control my life, not even a second of it...it can be done, couldn't it? IP: Logged |
thirteen Knowflake Posts: 640 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: May 2004
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posted April 08, 2005 08:33 AM
I dont think fear is an entity that has to release you. That would mean you are a victim. Maybe the way to change is to see it as your perogative to release him.. ( P.S. keep in mind that I am teaching myself here too.)IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 3171 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted April 08, 2005 10:16 AM
In my psychic research and living, I have seen and experienced things that I have yet to find anyone else speak or write of. So many have found pieces/parts, but have not connected the fragments. The quest can often be a lonely one, in respects to sharing experieces with other people. It will cease to be lonely when you are at peace with self and do not need others, but desire their company by active choice without fear or need. It is not an easy thing, but it can be done. Most people are not friends with self. That hurdle to overcome is one of the firsts. When you are ready the fear will be held back by the desire for enlightenment. If you ask yourself "am I ready?" and you do not get a clear YES, then step back and have patience. If you are sincere and ready, it will come. It is not a thing which can be aquired only when you are in the mood, because eurekas or epiphanies will come to a true seeker in many forms and does not adhere to the rules of a 9to5 or any other regular time schedule. It can be two in the morning when it happens. You can even be in the bathroom!{we use to joke about the bathroom being the sacred throne room because for about a year an amazing number of flashes of insight etc. happened in there)Know Thyself as much as possible before you embark on such a journey. This is not a thing like just taking a class, or meditating, when you are only in the mood. Yes, lightly testing the waters is a way to begin, but a true seeker{not a searcher) will eventually choose to live the eternal quest. Most are searchers, not seekers. There is a vast difference. You seem like a person casting your nets out to the universe but you aren't sure if your boat is leaking, or who is driving it, or what situations or things stand in your path,or do you perhaps stand in your own way? Any aspect of yourself, now, past, conscious or unconscious? Know Thyself!-----Ok as to your "manifestation" of Fear, I wonder if perhaps what you have encountered is a past life memory. Or perhaps more than a memory, but actually communicating with yourself from another incarnation. Is this man perhaps a part of you or does some part of yourself recognize him as someone you knew in the past? {this life or a previous one or more}Does he speak to you only in dream? Ask yourself these questions. Could it be simply a symbolic representation of what you call fear? Is he hansome or ugly? Do you pity or hate him? Do you wish to comfort him, banish him, understand him,or destroy him?...Ponder these things. You say you are afraid of many things, but are you truely afraid or simply cautious and not a fool running blindly into things and situations your intuition knows you are not ready for? You appear to have a very subtantial desire to figure things out, a desire to know even though you are afraid. Is this fear or are you actually being cautiosly wise?...Ponder that, but again be honest be brutally honest with yourself first. When you have set a firm foundation of you, then ask again "am I ready". It is good to take small steps. It is a perfectly fine thing to even advance and then retreat on your quest You must find your own pace and path. You do not have to go so far in this incarnation, but you can go as far as feels right for you. Everyone is on paths, at different points, and that is just fine. A master is only someone who is farther on the path than you, but the master if truely wise knows that the student can teach him also. Therefore ask, "what is the actual difference between a teacher and a master? Is there really any or are the differences only a peception of said differences depending on point of perception? Discover you, then you will know more they way.IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 3171 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted April 08, 2005 10:27 AM
sorry for the typos.IP: Logged |
HRHFishAreFish Knowflake Posts: 2 From: The Land of 10,000 Seas Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 08, 2005 12:54 PM
Hi Christina,Just sprinkling some magic fairy dust to ease your cold...better than Nyquil (sp?)...although Tinkerbell says it can sometimes give you quite a sneezing spell. Ahhhhhh-chooooooo Fear of death is a delusion Harbored in the breast of sages; He who lives a single Springtime Is like one who lives for ages.
-Kahlil Gibran LOve&LIght, Stephanie ------------------ If you smile at me I will understand that is something everyone everywhere does in the same language. Wooden Ships-CSN IP: Logged |
Christinaeavynwarner Knowflake Posts: 454 From: USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 08, 2005 06:43 PM
No no, I didn't dream up the man. When the idea first occured to me, the form of the man popped in my head. It might have been me in another life, maybe. He wasn't handsome, nor was he ugly. He was kind of both, and kind of neither. His features were...sharpish, and he was in a dark blueish room when I first thought of him. I think that I don't quite fear all the things I've listed, but there are things I am hugely caustious about. I mean, ghosts, I am afraid of. But what do you do to become a seeker? Beside knowing yourself? I've been doing that a bit lately, looking through astrology and numerology, and then asking myself questions of how I am feeling, what I want to do right now, what I think, what I felt when I saw him or her...IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 3171 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted April 08, 2005 08:36 PM
Christinaeavynwarner-You don't have to say but how old are you? Often I have observed even in myself that at certain ages we are more able to grasp certain concepts or perceive things in new ways that were near to impossible before. It appears to be a matter of synaptic density amplified by time living within these bodies and aquired life experience. I am not now as I was years ago or decades or for that matter even days. As we grow and learn, yes even what may appear to be mistakes, are not so in the big picture. All that we do and experience are things to enhance our learning and spiritual growth. You seem to have curiosity and the desire for knowing the important things of existence. I only ask your age because I can then be able to properly answer you. As for the man/woman. {no, I did not think you just imagined the person, but one can encounter people by mind touches in dream. This does not mean people in dream are only products of imagination. Sometimes it can be actual communication} or It may be an aspect of yourself, a personification of that which you call Fear. It could be someone you knew or will meet. The personification senses to be the answer I think, based on what you have said. YOU are a seeker! Are you ever in any estimation of your self ever going to reach the point where you would with all ego and id say, I know everything? Or do you evision yourself on the eternal quest? People who claim to know it all are deluding themselves. They may know more about things but there is always more to know. The destination is not as important as the journey. A destination is a stop not an ending. You stop and stay awhile or even a lifetime and you're off again. The desire to keep moving forward to learn are one of the hallmarks of a seeker. The searcher lives in a world of stops not wanting change for any reason. But change does come even to those in their complacency wether they want it or not. You appear to be moving by choice. I'll wait for your next post before I go on more about all this.Hang in there,you're talking and exploring! __Oh, ghosts are nothing to fear. They are people too. More about that later.IP: Logged |
PinkPearls&Stars Knowflake Posts: 82 From: San Diego, Ca, USA Registered: Apr 2004
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posted April 08, 2005 11:41 PM
i believe there are a variety of paths depending on each individual. I as well use to live in a world of fear, it was the majority of my life. i prayed, and it helped, and I have learned a lot since then. it meant a lot that you said you don't necessarily want the fears to dissapear from the face of the earth, but you just dont want to be afraid anymore. I've learned that it's so important to accept that fact. Here's how I've dealt with my fears. I realized that all those things that we may not want in our life exist and for a reason. some things that we may not want, others may want, and that's ok. So we will accept that those things can exist, but they dont have to be apart of our lives. If you just take your focus away from it, and focus on what you want, instead of what you do not want, and you slowly begin to fill your day with nothing but positive thoughts, one day you will wake up in the morning and realize that there is nothing to be afraid of, because your thoughts will now only manifest things that you do want. It's basically the law of attraction that Linda talked about. Anyway, all of this was so helpful for me, and hopefully this or something else will guide you into a release. A book I would highly recommend is Ask and It is Given. It's what taught me about all of this, and it is wonderfully inspiring. One of it's themes is to simply reach for a happier thought. When you feel bad, simply think of something that makes you feel better, the law of attraction will give you more thoughts that make you feel better, etc. And soon all these positive thoughts will manifest into positive things. Whatever path you choose I wish you all the best. Lots of love to you and to all of you!IP: Logged |
Christinaeavynwarner Knowflake Posts: 454 From: USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 10, 2005 08:06 PM
I am fifteen, but please don't let that stop you from telling me anything. I've heard and seen quite a few nasty, not-good-for-kids things, and really, I can take most. Are you sure ghosts are nothing to fear? They're always portrayed so...scaryly! Oh, and thank you PinkPearl&Stars. That did help, and I'll try to be as positive as I can from now on... IP: Logged |
Gia Knowflake Posts: 1154 From: California Registered: May 2004
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posted April 10, 2005 08:40 PM
I think the best way to understand your fear is to look at it in the complete light of day. That means stop hiding it and face it.Do you understand that you feed your fears and allow them to grow stronger because you hide behind them? It does not really matter where the man came from does it? What matters is why you felt uncomfortable. Think about it. He cannot hurt you unless you convince yourself he can. When I first sat in my first circle we were taught how to defend ourselves from what we call outside elementals. Our greatest defense was to learn not to fear. To face it and confront it. Always. I know it's not easy but try and master your own emotions and never let anyone or anything else control your feelings.
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Gia Knowflake Posts: 1154 From: California Registered: May 2004
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posted April 10, 2005 08:41 PM
I think the best way to understand your fear is to look at it in the complete light of day. That means stop hiding it and face it.Do you understand that you feed your fears and allow them to grow stronger because you hide behind them? It does not really matter where the man came from does it? What matters is why you felt uncomfortable. Think about it. He cannot hurt you unless you convince yourself he can. When I first sat in my first circle we were taught how to defend ourselves from what we call outside elementals. Our greatest defense was to learn not to fear. To face it and confront it. Always. I know it's not easy but try and master your own emotions and never let anyone or anything else control your feelings.
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Gia Knowflake Posts: 1154 From: California Registered: May 2004
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posted April 10, 2005 08:41 PM
I think the best way to understand your fear is to look at it in the complete light of day. That means stop hiding it and face it.Do you understand that you feed your fears and allow them to grow stronger because you hide behind them? It does not really matter where the man came from does it? What matters is why you felt uncomfortable. Think about it. He cannot hurt you unless you convince yourself he can. When I first sat in my first circle we were taught how to defend ourselves from what we call outside elementals. Our greatest defense was to learn not to fear. To face it and confront it. Always. I know it's not easy but try and master your own emotions and never let anyone or anything else control your feelings.
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fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 3171 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted April 11, 2005 09:37 AM
Christina.....You are doing remarkably well for even someone older than you in your quest for knowing. No, contrary to Hollywood and popular opinion etc., ghosts are nothing to fear. know. Without the help of the people, that you call ghosts, and are afraid of, are what/who I am so grateful to be in contact with! They have saved my life and protected me many times! I do not know if I would have survived the stroke I had last year{without damage or physical death} and other near death or potentially fatal situations if not for them. I have been warned about men with knives, and many other things and what action to take to prevent or mitigate trouble. You are doing fine! Relax and live!--You have alot of wonderful things to learn and experience in life! You also have what seems to be a good attitude.----------Also know that there is no such thing as a stupid question. Ignorance is not a crime, and can be fixed. Stupid is "choosing" to stay ignorant. You are Fine! PS. I am known to be brutally honest, and to receive a compliment from me, means I feel you've earned it. Otherwise I would either tactfully ignore you, or give you "what for" in spades on a silver platter! People who know me, know full well, to not ask me for my opinion or veiw, unless they really want an answer. I have learned to ask back to a question, "are you sure you want my answer?" I also warn them that I WILL NOT LIE to make them happy etc. Often I will say "I'm not permitted to answer or it's not time". Tact is something I had to learn. Tact is not lying. IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 3171 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted April 11, 2005 09:43 AM
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Christinaeavynwarner Knowflake Posts: 454 From: USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted April 11, 2005 05:33 PM
giggles...you're like my mom! She wouldn't care a spat about my feelings...just the other day, I asked her how I looked in this dress, and she said preguant! lol...gee, thanks mom. Anyway, thank you. What kind of job do you have? That would have men with knives along? Oh, and dont' answer if its rude (I really don't quite know what question is rude and waht isn't...for a Libra, I'm not very tactful) And well, I guess I'm a bit more better with the fear thing. Everytime I feel myself getting afraid, I'd imagine a white light, and then whisper "archangel micheal, protect me" and then I'd feel slightly better... Which I have a question..if you start to dream of people dying, or being murder (not actually seeing them being killed of course, just knowing that they are to be killed) or maybe a pair of blue eyes..? Actually, I'm not sure if the eye part is a dream or just a movie, but it's deeply imprinted in my mind--which is odd...in itself.. IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 3171 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted April 11, 2005 06:59 PM
I'm probably older than your mom! Hey better a mom than a stranger telling you if something looks odd. Well..if she's a nice mom. I hope so. Mine is a raving lunatic. I'm not kidding. The men with knives were a couple of new tenants who moved into the apartment next to mine {I have my own house now!!!!} These guys were bad news. I was told {by my discarnate friends},their names, ages and more, including that they were mentally handicapped and had some unnatural afinities for knives. It turned out ok, but not something I ever want to experience again. I don't know what to say about your scary dreams. When I was your age they were usually symbolic housecleaning of the days anxieties and worries. OR...directly related to something I saw on TV. That is one reason why I have not watched TV much in my whole life to date, and none at all in almost a decade. You're normal and at an age where you are working things out and finding yourself. You'll be fine....PS....I took that fantasy character test. I am both Yoda and Galadrial. It fits. But I look more like Yoda.IP: Logged | |