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Christinaeavynwarner
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posted April 15, 2005 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Christinaeavynwarner     Edit/Delete Message
First of all, what are your thoughts on decrees? Do they work? I've found a karma clearing decree, the Violet Flame, and some others...

And second, are ghosts ever evil? And if yes, can they harm you?

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fayte.m
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posted April 15, 2005 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Don't mess around with obe's or trying to contact things if you don't know what you are doing. The discarnate world is for the most part, NOT what Hollywood and others have portrayed or said. If you are gullible
and think that just because some entity is lovely, you could get in trouble. As for ghosts hurting you...only your fear can do that......But WHY are you so obsessed with ghosts?.....are we getting the whole story here? Alot of us have answered you, many different ways. You need to conquer yourself and your reasons for so much fear,...well before you go out into the unknown realms.
The cautious traveler will know what to do to be safe. You are not ready I feel. You have indicated that this is so. As I said before, some of my best friends are not in body. Did you understand any of what I and others have said? I am worried about you is all......

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Gia
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posted April 15, 2005 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with all the above.

I sat in a circle for many years and even the most experienced of us often got stuck.

A few years ago I tried to clear something on my own but it was stronger than I antcipated and after 29 years experience, I got stuck again and needed help myself.

I am 46 years old and it's taken me years of training to do what I do. It's not a game and can be dangerous so please beware.

Etheric shields are often not constructed properly and it takes enormous amount of training to know how to sustain them once they are. Just an image of a shield or a quick prayer is not enough.

Ghosts are of the variety of people you get in life. Some of them are ripe in consciousness and some are not. Don't dwell on ghosts it's not healthy. As Jeshua Ben Joseph said, let the dead bury the dead and follow me - meaning life of course.

Gia

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fayte.m
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posted April 16, 2005 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I have been in touch with the so called other side all my life. Gia is right, it can be dangerous even for those of us with experience. This is not an idle warning! By the way I am 50. I work with "them" every day. I do not watch TV. Once in awhile a movie I own, but no TV. I do not have time. I "walk between worlds so to speak every day and I take it extremely serious! If they need to communicate it can be anytime,day or night,2, 3, 4 or so AM. To do this kind of work, to communicate freely is something an adept cannot stop doing. I warn those who want to just dabble a little or are looking for cheap thrills to stop immediately! This is a way of life and not a game of amusement for giggles and screams. That goes for obes, spells and so forth.

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Christinaeavynwarner
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posted April 16, 2005 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Christinaeavynwarner     Edit/Delete Message
No no, I don't at all want to get in touch with them, or have funs and giggles. It was just that last night, a movie comercial was on, and they were claiming it was a true ghost story, and I was wondering if really ghosts would go around and try to kill people. But, if there is reincarnation, then why are there ghosts? Shouldn't they have been reincarnated already?

And the decrees---what do you guys thing?

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Christinaeavynwarner
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posted April 16, 2005 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Christinaeavynwarner     Edit/Delete Message
And another quick note...er...do you know any protection spell or charms? To protect us against all harm (bugs, people, ...?)

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marcia
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posted April 16, 2005 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for marcia     Edit/Delete Message
Fayte, Gia?

*gulps*

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Gia
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posted April 16, 2005 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
It is my experience that it is totally possible to shield yourself from unwanted influences so that you are not bombarded constantly, or that your physical body is not left totally strained through lack of sleep. I do it all the time and I know you must be aware you can do it also. Although you are quite right in saying that the physical body always remains intimately attached by sympathetic vibration to the astral realms. You can't switch it off totally, however you can block it out.

Christina, all of us are constantly been influenced by the unseen entities although most of us have no idea at all that this is the case. People who have parents that have already transitioned would probably tell you they feel watched over, maybe protected, deceased husbands watch over their widows, great musicians feel influenced by old masters and so forth. It happens more than you know.

Sometimes though because of the variety of the human consciousness there are some entities who remain earthbound and they can influence the physical through a medium - meaning another person or a place, there by gratificating their passions either good or bad. Sometimes it can be both disturbing and undesirable.

Think in terms of energy and how it moves to really help you understand the astral realms.

There are protective shields such as mental, astral and etheric. They are NOT all the same. The greatest protection is what I call "Thought Hygiene" because every thought although unseen, produces a radiating kind of undulation. It is for this reason I am totally against all these horror movies now produced. Don't believe for one tiny moment that they are harmless. They are NOT. The energy they produce causes waves in the astral that are harmful to all of us. They do influence behaviour both astral and physical.

Since the 'Silence Of The Lambs' movie was released we have had a wave of cannibalistic crimes mainly by young people world wide. It is particuilarly bad for younger children, for they are so eagerly receptive in regards to all influences. Like little sponges really. The thought forms, or what I call elementals these movies produce and the fear they feed on are more far reaching than just the physical eye. Sometimes I can't help but marvel at our extrordinary slowness in catching on. No wonder violence is increasing amongst our younger generations.

I hope this helps you Christina.


Gia

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fayte.m
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posted April 16, 2005 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
OK...........firstly, Gia; good answer.......second.....ooooh boy!
The things I have seen, done and places I have been, the entities I have met, the discarnates I cherish and work with. Hmmmmm....it is so hard for me to answer in a way to help you. Ok...first, I think you need to SLOW DOWN! You said you are only 15 years old. I DO NOT MEAN THAT AS AN INSULT OF YOUR MATURITY OR INTELLEGENCE!!!!!! But time and experience does matter! An oak does not become mighty over night. Are you aspiring to be an oak or a short lived, fast growing willow? Who are you? What do you actually believe and fear and love, down to the very core of your soul? Keep talking to us, but please step back and take a deeeep breath and seriously reconsider the validity or usually lack of what the movies,TV, tabloids etc. are touting. Gia is correct. You must not allow the popular influences and notions to influence you. I will have to get back to you on all this. Keep asking questions....I, and I'm sure the others, will try to help you. RELAX!

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Gia
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posted April 16, 2005 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
I've just be taking a shower and whilst washing Christina I have been mentally pondering over my answer. I have been instructed to answer you more clearly on decrees as you call them. I am so sorry I that in my earnestness to help I became quite complicated.

Decrees are useful, very much so. The reason is that they help to concentrate the mind on the subject at hand. Try to keep your mind on one subject for five minutes and see what happens. All kinds of thoughts slip in unawares do they not? That means your mind and your thoughts are not quite under control. Decrees because they are repetitive do help enforce habit. When habit is so familiar to you, you will have attained the power to hold any thought steady with little or no effort.

The violet flame is good, if you are Christian, Christ or the Lords prayer, in fact it could be anything but make it something of higher ideals. Something loving and good.

Good luck.

Gia

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Christinaeavynwarner
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posted April 16, 2005 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Christinaeavynwarner     Edit/Delete Message
Gia, how do you block it? The unseen entities and all? And decrees--do they hold powers? I mean, there was one where they said if I say it enough, I could wash of most of the karmic debts I've held, and asked to be released of them. Will that work? Will the karmic debts really be released? Can karmic debts be released?Or decrees for the world? Light workers and all that? And do you have to be Christian to do it? I'm an athiest...or...close to one. I believe in god, or something like god, but I don't belong to any religion.

Fayte.m--slow down? How? What do I actually believe and fear and love? Er...believe, I believe in the powers humans hold, fear--well, there's many things I fear. Some superficial, others...core frightening. And love--depends on what mood I am in. I love most things, but only show it on certain days...And I understand what you mean by either being an oak or a willow. But--I don't know what you mean by slowing down? Should I stop looking for things? I'm not acting hugely upon what I find--I'd research astrology, palmistry, facial analyzes, higher selves, numerology, and I apply a bit of that in my life...but...

Giggles, relax. True, I should. I panick really easily, I mean, I'd be walking along, or watching tv, and then something small or insignificant would pop into my head, and I'd have to get answers on those questions immediately. Anyway, thank you all for taking the time to answer my questions...

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Gia
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posted April 16, 2005 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Well Christina, there are forces all around us all the time. Have you had an experience that has made you feel in danger? The reason I'm asking is to know exactly how to direct you. I can tell you how to construct a etheric shield, but that would not suffice if energetically you cannot sustain it. I can help more if you tell me why and what you need to be blocked off from.

You do not have to be Christian to do it. Christ was not Christian and he made himself available to all and still does. Light workers I presume are people who work to elevate consciousness. Well they can only ever elevate their own. We all do it one at a time. When like minded groups send out loving thoughts those thought waves are obviously stronger and far more powerful. The thought of a single person can produce a powerful wave but the thoughts of million people directed to the same cause can produce a greater power.


You share your space with many other entitities even if you don't like it. Just as we exert an influence on our surroundings even those we consider inanimate surroundings, which by the way, are often not so inanimate as we are apt to think. All these influence us. Some people see nature spirits for instance, understand that the mineral kingdom rocks, crystals, etc. etc. have their own energetic influences. There are other dimensions which bleed into ours. If you are talking general cleansing of space from entitities that may do you harm then you just have to remember the simple laws of attraction and magnetics. Thoughts of a higher level generate a much higher field of action. A clearer field if you wish.

Decrees do work but it takes training to sustain them. We have to train the mind to keep the intent strong. A prayer is a decree.

"Forgive my transgressions as I forgive those who have transgressed aginst me." Now that's a good karmic cleanser is it not?

Actually it is my belief that your karma has been paid however your realisation has not.

Now will you tell me whats really bugging you or what has spooked you so much?


Gia

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Christinaeavynwarner
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posted April 16, 2005 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Christinaeavynwarner     Edit/Delete Message
Nothing specifically has been bothering me, just little stuff, dreams, faces I've seen with my eyes closed, growing pains and all. I've never been extremely frightened, but there are times when its hard to breath, and I feel horridly lonely. I'd just like something to protect me from all harm, at all times, I suppose. And then thus be able to help my friends, if they would believe. I mean, all I really want, is to be protected, from all hurts and fear. I want to...release myself from my fears--which are really great--but I don't know exactly what I am afraid of--

And, I think I was a somewhat not so nice person in a past life, and I'd like all my karmic debts to be paid, as quickly as possible, so life...won't keep being so hard. I mean, life is fine, everything's well, but before, it was...horrid (last year--change years and all Linda Goodman talked about those) and I want to be protected from that, if possible. And minimize the pain.

Do you really think my karma has been paid? How can you tell?

Oh, and really, sometimes you guys shouldn't pay attention to me! I'd panick easily--I think tis either the five vibration in my birth number, or cuz of the moon in cancer...not sure which one...giggles

Thank you though. I'm really glad you're here.

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fayte.m
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posted April 17, 2005 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Yes we are here! Just keep communicating OK?
Alot of people have been where you are. Gotta go! I'm busy at the moment, back to you asap!

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