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posted May 12, 2005 08:39 PM         

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Hi! I just found this site today and registered. I wanted to find out if anybody else had problems with what I call demons around Easter this year. Here is my story. I was lying in bed and was just dropping off to sleep (I thought) and became fully awake with terror as I was being pulled and dragged away by my ankles by what I thought were demons. I screamed and grabbed for my husband, but it seems that I didn't actually move or make a noise. This seemed to go on and on until I was finally able to move and I sat up in extreme terror. Has anybody else experienced this? I have also "woken up" to what I think are aliens around my bed (not clear, just shadows). I don't know if this is something to do with the house I live in or if it is me, but these things have been happening since we moved here almost 4 years ago. Any thoughts are appreciated!

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posted May 12, 2005 09:42 PM         

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Welcome!
Sorry to hear about your scary experience.
I know some knowflakes here a very good in giving advice with this sort of thing, hang in there Epona, you'll be fine.

In my personal experience I've found these types of 'entities' feed off fear.
Show Love and BE Love.
Even with a little faith these things will leave you alone.

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posted May 13, 2005 12:06 AM         

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Yeah, scary stuff! Sounds like the house if it started when you moved in, but there should be ways to clear them out. (Where are you Gia?) Apparantly sprinkling salt on all four corners of the room can help. Otherwise, yeah, I'd proclaim aloud that "nothing can harm me unless I say so, and I do NOT say so". Best of luck!

And Welcome to Lindaland!

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posted May 13, 2005 05:24 AM         

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Welcome!

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posted May 13, 2005 05:52 AM         

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Thanks for the welcome.
I have done the salt thing several times and visualizing white light to surround myself. There's been nothing since the demons and before them, I had gone all winter without any 'visitations". The first summer here, I woke up to balls of green light around the room, with them resting on window sills and furniture. I went to the bathroom and came back and they were still there. That didn't scare me, but it sure was weird! That was when there were lots of what I called "aliens" at night.

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posted May 13, 2005 10:02 AM         

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Epona! Hello!
You sound like what you experienced is what is known as galvanization. I'll explain that later.
I do not believe it was demons or any other type of vistors from "outside".
The questions I want to pose are:
Are you happy? Are you happy with your "new" home/house?
Or are you unhappy about something or stressed out?
Lastly, does your "new house" cause you stress or a sense of contentment?
By the way, the green balls of light are nothing to worry about. I'll get back to you on that too. They are actually a rather common phenomena.

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posted May 13, 2005 11:39 AM         

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Fayte,
Well, I have mixed feelings about the house. My cat doesn't like parts of it and I feel "cold" in the same parts of it that the he dislikes. I loved the house when we looked at it and I now realize that I only like the sunny parts of the house. I avoid the other areas. I do wish the renovations/improvements were further along, but that is going to have to wait for funding and time, like everything else.

On days off, when I am home all day, I end up with a migraine if I hung out on the computer or read a book. (I get migraines a lot)!

I have been struggling with some depression and stress for several years now. I am in the military. I went through a lot of changes in 2000/2001 and just haven't been able to bounce back. I've had a lot of health problems too, especially this winter. I started seeing a professional and she has helped me a lot. I have a bad childhood history, as I see you have too. Mine was sexual. There are some marital stress right too, due to some of the work I am doing with my therapist. I am feeling unsettled. Tired of the military, but feel committed to get that retirement (6 years more). I am struggling with trying to get a new job in the military. I don't do well with interviews and have failed 2 so far, in positions that I have been working in for years. I am going to try again for one of them. If I don't get it, I will have to find something else. So, I am pretty stressed. I hope this gives you some insight. I did consult with a medical intuitive and she said the majority of my health problems were due to the sexual abuse. That was why I started seeing a therapist.

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posted May 13, 2005 04:14 PM         

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fayte.m and epona,
speaking of which, is there a place in lindaland where people who have experienced sexual abuse can go to talk once in a while? I mean - as much as I think it's in the past, that I've grown out of it, that I'm still alive and such - I can't help but think that a lot of my interactions with people, especially men (and my strain with women because of the feedback and reactions from the females in my family during the time of the sexual abuse) - i wish there was a place here we could go to talk about it sometimes. i know i should check in with a therapist but...........

as for your house epona, i don't know what to say. i do know that a relative of mine has dreams sometimes where there might be a "unwelcomed" influence trying to scare him. I don't really have dreams like that because I am one to turn around to face the "unwelcomed" influence and talk to them without fear / sort of like shooing a giant who is screaming obscenities at me. i.e. my relative had a dream that one of my dogs was standing upright. he was in a holding room with one of those mirrors that you can see in and the person on the other side can only see their reflection. needless to say, my dog couldn't see out but only his reflection and he was posing in front of the mirror sticking his middle finger up and such. i got a chill up my spine when my relative said - it was weird but i know one thing, i didn't want to open up the door.

i just started with trying to reach out to others via dreams (by permission only, of course but then again, i'm forgetful too so no one has to worry about me ever intruding) so if you would like me to give it a try one day / i would be glad to.

for instance, i tried to go to one of my relatives dreams when he was having a problem........they were in a cafeteria and there was this "unwelcomed" force there and of course, he was scared and the force was feeding off of that but i came up and confronted it. now - obviously, just me "going" there is not going to solve the problem (see, another unwelcomed force might have been in the dog dream) - that's totally up to the person who is fearing the "unwelcomed" force. you will have to eventually confront and find a reason/way not to fear it anymore. they say if you confront evil with love - the love may be able to defeat it. well - with a lot of these "unwelcomed" forces - it's a pastime to be feared. just like an obnoxious bully - sometimes you have to make him/her/it feel like it's presence is hilarious, unnecessary, whatever you do when you are confronted by a bully.

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posted May 13, 2005 04:40 PM         

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amisha121877....We can join with others in dreamings. One name for it is "dreamfasting".

As for somewhere here at LL, for a place to talk about sexual abuse...not sure, but it would be helpful for many. I too was a victim of such. I was raped at 9 years old, and then again at 15. The first a realative, the second a friend, or so I erringly thought. My mother abused me. Some of it was sexual, alot just pure violence, like getting whipped until I was bloody, and having to wear black stockings/tights. and long sleeved turtle necks, and long skirts or pants to hide them from others. There were other almost sexual abuses from others I should have been able to trust. One of my ex-husbands abused my son. I'll have to find the titles, but I have read some very good titles on this subject. I'll try and find them. There are also support groups. I am beyond my issues now, it wasn't easy but I am able to let it go now. Of course any questions you would like to ask, PLEASE feel free to do so...I am not ashamed, and tell whatever you want to also, I don't think I can be shocked either! I do let certain people have my e-mail...but it depends on if I feel they are being honest with me and really do want to talk or just have a shoulder to cry on.

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posted May 13, 2005 05:12 PM         

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Epona! You seem to have resonances. These are NOT ghosts, or demons. You are stressed and it appears that these resonances are being recharged by you. These things are usually dormant and degauss by themselves in time...if they are not recharged. These can be left behind by people who have died and also still incarnate people who lived there or visited there. Think of it in someways as a sort of emotional ( these can be scary, sad, happy, anything)radio broadcast that is left behind in a stasis bubble or field. Or better yet, a kind of recording with sensory output and until you recharge the batteries, or plug it in, the recording won't playback.
You seem to be charging it. The only other theory I have is a question. Is there anything that you have done in the military that could have angered someone,or frightened them? Or in any part of your life, that could be traced back to about the time you started having these experiences? If none of that applies, I shall continue with my original assessment and advice. Since your cat notices something too, then yes you do have something. But I do not think it is ghosts or any conscious/sapient entity, simply a resonance that needs degaussed, rather than letting it linger and dispersing on its own in time. It won't if it keeps getting recharged.
OK....a solution. It usually does work or mitigates the situation. The concept is to create an alteration in the areas where you have experienced(and the cat has also) the phenomena. You do not need to do them all. Any should change things. When the resonances were left, things were a certain way. Things need altered. Painting, etc..all can have this affect. If any of the original (before you moved there) light BULBS are stil in the house or any other areas such as the garage,(not the fixtures, just the bulbs) then replace them, break the old ones and throw them away in bags separate from your other trash.
Next way..take a spray bottle, a new(and cheapo one is just fine)put into it a mixture of water and vinegar of equal proportions. Add to that salt, and powdered sage. No, nothing new age fancy here, like sacred sage or sea salt...you can, but it is not necessary. Shake it up and then as you go from affected area to affected area, spray/spritz and say out loud as you do so, " this house is mine! This is my home! Begone anything that is not of my making!"...or whatever words sound right to you. Any of these things once done, should "clear the air" so to speak. This wee bit of kitchen magic, or practical magic does usually do the trick, unless there are other factors at work. That is why I posed the question of, have you done anything to scare or make someone extremely angry with you. I hope this helps!

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posted May 13, 2005 05:40 PM         

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Fayte,
I have done what you said with the spray bottle with just sea salt and water and did the "begone" thing. I also have placed quartz crystals in those areas too. The cat seems better and for the most part, it seems better to me, but I haven't heard about the light bulbs. There are original ones in nearly every light here. We bought the house in 2002. My husband thinks I'm crazy. He is a "see it to believe it prove it to me physically" kinda guy. He doesn't even believe in seeing a therapist.

I can't think of anyone I angered or hurt badly. I usually hurt myself before doing anything to upset or hurt anybody else. Unless, my husband is the one upset with me for the lack of sex lately. He has been pretty grumpy about it. Maybe he is expressing his anger at me in a different way. He is an Aries and I am a Leo, though most can't tell what I am. He knows his angry outbursts scare me, so he keeps his anger hidden from me.

Amisha121877, I do a lot of work with my dreams. My therapist and I discuss them. This was totally different from my "normal" dreams, even though those would scare the pants off a lot of people. I have never tried to join someone else's dream nor have I had anyone that I can recall join my dream. I have experimented with Lucid Dreaming. I have managed to have 5 really good lucid dreams, but I don't try anymore. I like to have the dream take its course, usually. I have a journal of the most memorable and significant ones. I do a lot of my healing from the abuse in my dreams. Do you?

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posted May 13, 2005 06:01 PM         

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Epona!

I am glad it has seemed to help, you and the cat and the areas. Be careful with crystals. It is best if they are not the fancy cut and polished ones. The rough cut ones are best. Leave them in those places at night, then in the daytime, place them outside in direct sunlight for a few minutes. This will remove, or effectively "bake/burn" out anything they may have absorbed during the night. Then keep repeating this ritual for as long as you need to. Also you have clarified something for me, it is not you perhaps who is recharging these resonances. It appears to be your husband. Place a rough crystal under your bed, better yet place two under the bed under both yours and his sides of the bed. You do not need to tell your husband, in fact I wouldn't if I were you. I based the notion of it being your husband who is recharging the resonances on what you said;Quote:

"He has been pretty grumpy about it. Maybe he is expressing his anger at me in a different way. He is an Aries and I am a Leo, though most can't tell what I am. He knows his angry outbursts scare me, so he keeps his anger hidden from me."

When people are angry a "sensitive" will pick up these emotional storm waves, expressed openly or kept inside. It appears that you are a "sensitive". I am that also, and a myriad other things of the psychic arena of gifts and or skills. I feel for you, it is hard when someone we love or care for is angry or upset and is holding it in and refuses to find a way to constructively cope or express their feelings. My first hubands were like that. My current is the opposite, which pleases me to no end! Ask me anything, anytime, and I will try to help. I try to reply as quickly as possible, but please bear with me if I am ever slow in replying. I always do get back to reply. Thanks again!

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posted May 13, 2005 06:46 PM         

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Just a little note here. If you are on any kind of anti depressants etc. they can decrease your libido. If so explain that to him.

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posted May 13, 2005 09:23 PM         

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Thanks Fayte. I do think I am pretty sensitive. My crystals are the rough kind and I do take them out into the sun to "clean" them. I am glad of your information and help!

Philbird, I am not on antidepressants. I have been taking 5-HTP as a migraine preventative. It is supposed to give my body the building blocks for more serotonin. It seems that the triptan meds kill the headaches, so my naturapath put me on the 5-HTP. It does seem to help the headaches, but the libido problem started before I started the supplements. My "normal" doctor tested my hormone levels and found that I have high levels of DHEAS and low levels of progesterone and estrogen (been having some of those per-menopausal symptoms too). He says I have polycystic ovarian syndrome. Any adjustment to hormones, be it chemically (birth control pills) or naturally (herbs) will send me into a nightmare migraine that lasts for days. So, the libido issue is probably physical as well as mental. Still working it all out.

Sorry if I turned this thread into a medical one!

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posted May 13, 2005 09:28 PM         

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Epona....You are welcome! It was my pleasure.
I know this isn't a medical thread, but I too have suffered with the low progesterone levels for decades. Nightmare Heavy MPs
and 26 miscarriages.
Hey its starting to thunder here gotta go..

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posted May 13, 2005 10:12 PM         

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Oh, dear Fayte! And you too epona.

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posted May 14, 2005 07:45 AM         

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fayte,
I hope I'm not being to pushy, but you said earlier you would explain the balls of green light. I'd like to know, when you have time. Thanks for your advice!!!

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posted May 14, 2005 08:15 AM         

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Epona...They seem to be a form of earth spirit, nature spirit, or I should I say entity, to be more specific. There are several kinds. Some are just curious about anyone who is a sensitive and can percieve them, others are what I call cleaners, kind of like those snails and catfish you put in your fish tank to clean the gunkies and algae out by consuming it. They clean up the gunkies, the negative energy, but it has no negative affect on them, to them it is just food. Either way, it is a good thing, the balls of green light. They can also be the spirits of certain animals who are in between incarnations, but enjoy human contact, and are attracted to a "sensitive" such as yourself. I have some other thoughts on that, but then that gets into fairies and so forth. Do you believe in fairies? I hope I have made sense! Alot of people may think I'm wacko. But don't worry, I give myself reality checks!

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posted May 15, 2005 11:59 PM         

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I would suggest that the Health and Healing forum could be used to discuss abuse as it concerns the quality of your well being. However, certain situations may seem karmic (aren't they all) and in which case could be discussed here. Some people can be quite upset about refering to abuse as karmic so they might want more of an ear, or "plain" advice which isn't too deep, or even other alternative remedies. So, really you could go to either depending on what you want to receive. Having said that, we're all loving elves in Lindaland, so you may go to any forum

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posted May 16, 2005 10:51 AM         

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Thank you sesame!

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posted May 16, 2005 01:10 PM         

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Epona!
Since Sesame metioned the word elves again; I thought you might find this interesting about my name and my husband's name. PS. I did post it on another thread, but just in case you had not seen it. I don't know if it really means something, or is just fun wordplay.
Posted from another thread, in a reply to Sesame:
As to elf etc. in lexigrams. This might interest you...
My married and middle name anagrams to:
My Real Life.
It also lexigrams out into some neat things.
I am elf
Elf I am
Elm fairy
Fairy Elm
My flair
I am a Male elf
I am Female elf
And my full name:same, plus more:
I am a fairy
a rare elf am I
I am myself
A fairy elf am I
And a whole bunch of other neat things!
My husband's name lexigrams to:
elves are alive
I live as elves
as elves I live all lives
And a whole lot more for him too!

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posted May 16, 2005 06:55 PM         

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Fayte, that's really neat! I have always been interested in the Celtic elves, the Tuatha Dedannan (sp?), especially. I love the old Celtic mythologies and stories where they play a part.

I've never done anagrams with my name before. I just don't seem to have the hang of making them.

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posted May 16, 2005 10:59 PM         

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Epona! Cool! I love all things elvish!!!!!!

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posted May 20, 2005 12:27 PM         

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Thanks, Fayt. I will check it out. Sorry for the late reply. I've been away due to my dear horse friend having a severe case of colic and had to go to the horse hospital. He is home now and feeling better. He nearly died. I have had him in my life for 16 years. I raised him since he was 6 months old, so we have been pals for a long time. I can't even imagine my life without him right now. He is a special creature!

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posted May 20, 2005 05:37 PM         

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Epona! I hope your equine friend will fully recover.

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