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Topic: Living in the past
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sue g
Knowflake Posts: 1170
From: ireland
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted May 24, 2005 11:43 AM
 
I came back to live in Ireland 10 years ago. When I say "came back", well Ive never lived here before in this life, but I am beginning to understand what some of the old ones who I have met mean, when they say "when did you come back"? My unease with this lifetime has brought me back to a place where I can "breathe" and relax. but even so I miss so much that "old" life, the one where things were slower, purer, albeit harder in other ways. I always had an "irish" feel about me, others saw and felt it and the natives here act a little surprised when the see how I have immersed myself into the culture (even tho some might see me as from the nation who destroyed them in the past). As an example I was in the pub on friday at a traditional irish music session.............well so called.........80% of the musicians are English, that feels strange to me. Anyway there was this guy playing guitar, he was brilliant, alive and very irish (a Dub), and for the craic he said "this song is an ant--brit song, but said it with a twinkle in his eye. Anyway the english guys in the session took offence and again I amazed myself with the way I jumped to the defence of the irish. One guy turned to yer man and said something like "oh you Irish are a bit slow on the uptake arent you" in a very pompous english accent and another one started to play God Save The Queen on the fiddle. I couldnt help it, I shouted "that is really out of order guys". I mean yer man was just having a bit of a laugh and they wouldnt let it go, one woman walked out. I then went on to sing with the Irish guy, it felt great, if felt like going back, it felt like coming home. When I left the pub and went back to my house I sat down and cried. You guys reading this may think I am crazy, but I miss that life so much, I still yearn for the warmth and familiarity of if. You see I was an Irish nationalist, a member of the IRA, a verty very rebellious Irish woman who at one point was dragged away from her home and killed. I still sometimes see the english as the opposition, I am trying to heal this, but when I saw what went on with their pompous attitudes and their inflated egos, it made me feel sick. I met some lovely rural irish people in the last place I lived in (east Cork), but they are all travelling now and I miss them terribly. The other thing I find difficult is the english ones in the session carry no joy with them - they dont "live for the day" like the irish. I am so connected to the past, I am afraid at times, the memory of it overwhelms me. Oh and just to add intrigue to it, Mr Libra was there with me, and now we dont even speak with each other. I would love to hear what you guys think - or whether you have had similar experiences - I mean of being one nationality and feeling at odds with it? Love and peace to all xxx  IP: Logged |
sesame
Moderator Posts: 866
From: Oz
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted May 24, 2005 08:08 PM
 I'm a little confused. So you're Irish, and was Irish in a previous life that was murdered? When you say you came back, is that from England in this life, or the Irish past life? Are you not speaknig to Mr Libra at all atm? Where are you now? Sorry for so many questions, but I'm trying to understand what you're saying. Dean. IP: Logged |
trillian
Moderator Posts: 3376
From: The Boundless
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted May 24, 2005 08:54 PM
Prejudice pervades all cultures, on varied levels. I say this with deep love for us humans: it seems to be a necessary part of our lives on this planet/plane. It has always been, and I see no sign that it's even remotely on its way out. You and I don't know each other well, Sue. Something I've said before, and will say again, is that it's all a part of the Yin and Yang of life. There must be negative and positive to balance life. We strive so hard to embrace the light, that we forget the dark is also necessary. Sue, the Universe is as you create it, each and every moment. Sometimes there is comfort in knowing that all that comes to us, is here because we need it, we want it, we have asked it to be. Through adversity we grow and learn...and hopefully, accept. In quiet times, ask yourself why you brought this to you. "We create our problems because we need their gifts." We are all a piece of a part of a whole. IP: Logged |
sue g
Knowflake Posts: 1170
From: ireland
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted May 25, 2005 08:55 AM
Hi Dean, sorry for confusion, it is strange isnt it? OK I was born in England and came to live in Ireland 10 years ago. I had a past life in Ireland (well prob. more than one). Mr. Libra was here with me in all of these past lives (and before that too). And no we arent speaking at moment cos I challenged him about his behaviour - does that make it clearer, please ask away if it doesnt - love to you xTrillian, thankyou for your kind words, good to read them - you are right, and the challenges are good for me. It doesnt mean because we are born into a culture that we have to follow it, but of course to learn to live with each other in harmony would be the ultimate. My fiddle teacher and I today had the most brilliant craic, falling off our seats laughing and he said to me "you have great devilment in you" and then proceeded to sing a funny upbeat song about the devil - AAAHHH coming home is the best - love and thanks to you Aries lady xxxx  IP: Logged |
sesame
Moderator Posts: 866
From: Oz
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted May 25, 2005 11:35 PM
So, what accent do you have? It sure sounds like you're half/half and maybe are here (among other things) to experience the rift between England and Ireland. To see both view points from each angle. As Trillian says about cultures and stuff.Hiya Trillian! Long time no type! Dean. IP: Logged |
sue g
Knowflake Posts: 1170
From: ireland
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted May 26, 2005 06:04 AM
Hi Dean, I have an English accent but with Irish phrases, and when I am with the natives I break into the Irishisms. I like what you said about seeing things from both view points. My heart is stronly celtic - I am just about to embark on some soul recall work, to try and balance out the sad memories and anger (I feel the English were very cruel to me in past lives). So am looking forward to that journey - never a dull life hey lads? xxIP: Logged |
alchemiest
Knowflake Posts: 399
From: baltimore, MD USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted June 14, 2005 02:59 PM
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Prejudice pervades all cultures, on varied levels. I say this with deep love for us humans: it seems to be a necessary part of our lives on this planet/plane. It has always been, and I see no sign that it's even remotely on its way out.
That was beautiful and very well said, Trillian Sue this thread sparked a thought in me- what you said about your past life as an irishwoman- maybe you came back as a 'Brit' =) for a reason... to learn and understand what makes the 'other side' tick, as it were. Ultimately, every person (or race) is just another face on the multifaceted coin of existence. Nothing is 'wrong' or 'right' or 'good' or 'evil'- these are just labels we place on things based on our subjective perceptions. LOL sorry, I don't mean to lecture on this subject or anything.
What I have noticed about the British is that a lot of them are snobbish and racist even (the expats in Asia, etc). But so are many Irish people (speaking from personal experience) as well as Indian people, Chinese people, etc (again, from personal experience). Basically, people from all races are equally capable of displaying such behavior. These traits are all on an individual level.
At first, I was hurt, angry and dismayed by such attitudes.
Then, I looked deeper and saw the experience I was seeking: Acceptance
These people were (and maybe still are)at a different level from me. Not higher, or lower, or anything of the sort, just different. They have their own sought after experiences for this lifetime and maybe this is what they have to go through to find them. Ultimately all you can do is accept and understand, and know that this is what they need. Don't let yourself get hurt by their actions, for what would be the point of that?
That's what I think, anyway. Hugs,
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thirteen
Knowflake Posts: 352
From: Rochester Hills, MI USA
Registered: May 2004
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posted June 14, 2005 04:15 PM
Sue, one thing that helps me very much.. Remember not to put judgement on the memories or the emotions they stir up. They are all just experiences, they are not your identity. Sometimes i get overwhelmed by certain bad emotions from other times. I let the emotions come in real hard with no judgement whatsoever ( that is the hardest part) if i am clear without the judgement the emotions have their expression and then they fade. In fact now that Im mentioning it i recencly had a situation of extreme sadness and fear over what I think was my own past suicide. This time i decided to let all the really bad emotions just flow in. Normally i let it get to a certain point then i make it stop and i feel bad because im judgeing it. Guess what happened..It just dissipated. And it hasn't returned. Now Im on to other situations but thats another chapter. Read this with your heart and intuition and you will sense what I am talking about.IP: Logged |
sue g
Knowflake Posts: 1170
From: ireland
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted June 21, 2005 12:29 PM
Hi Thirteen and thanks for your post - I too have recently discovered thro past life regression that I took my own life and then immeditely regretted it. I so understand what you wrote and I am now able, at long last, to separate myself from the feelings which no longer serve me well. Things seem more balanced somehow, I know you will understand what I mean. Thanks again, its very valuable to have understanding from another on such a hugely moving and life altering subject- and, I must add not for the faint hearted God bless us all xxx IP: Logged | |
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