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Yang
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posted May 25, 2005 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
New Zealand researchers have discovered a planet twice the size of Jupiter. It is 15 000 light years from our planet, making it one of the most distant discoveries to date.

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Solane Star
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posted May 25, 2005 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Yang,

Do they have a name for this plant yet!!!

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Solane Star
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posted May 25, 2005 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Yang,

Do they have a name for this plant yet!!!

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lovely*
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posted May 25, 2005 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
Could this be the "distant planet Vulcan?"

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fayte.m
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posted May 25, 2005 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
There have been quite a few more than one discovered! I think it is wonderful! Humans need proof like this! So many are so Terracetric!

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sesame
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posted May 25, 2005 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Terrahuh? I don't need proof. How do you form proof within illusion? Poof goes the roof of proof...

Dean.

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Yang
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posted May 26, 2005 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know if they have given a name yet as the newspaper I read didn't give a name. BUt I suppose they will soon enough.

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted May 31, 2005 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgotaurustaurus     Edit/Delete Message
I heard about this before I walked back onto LL forums and nearly jumped for joy! It'd be nice if it was Vulcan

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sesame
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posted May 31, 2005 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
As naive as it sounds, I still think Vulcan lies between the Sun and Mercury. I know we should have the technology to see it, and don't know why we can't. The thing is, they called this planet Vulcan. Google Vulcan and Einstien.

On a side note, I've mentioned this theory before but I'll raise it again. It was hypothesised around 1900 that the asteroid belt is the remnants of a planet. It has since been brought up again in the last decade or so that there is more evidence of this - that it could've been two planets based on asteroid density and water remnants and their locations within the belt. One planet is noticably smaller due to these factors.

Now, do you think if the smaller one was Vulcan, true ruler of Virgo, and the other Pan-Horus, true ruler of Taurus, that these planets would still rule in their shattered forms? There is a fascinating book called "The Phoenix Solution" which takes these theories into more detail. Basically, the book delves into the knowledge that the Egyptians knew of these planets from somewhere, and that they also knew that Sirius is a binary star system - something we only discovered in the last couple of hundred years. Anyhow, the book claims that the battle between Horus and Seth is simbolic of the destruction of these planets. Note the similarity with Pan-Horus? When Horus's eye was poked out, one planet blew, and when Horus stabbed Seth in a testicle, the other planet blew. The book claims a third planet could've entered our solar system and created havoc with our planets, and hence de-stabilised these two planets, resulting in their explosions. The explosions themselves supposedly caused the water on Mars, and the unusual spins of some planets and orbits or others. Also, they occured at 65 million years, and 250 million years which made the dinosaurs extinct and change other things on Earth.

Anyway, just some theories for you guys to mull over

Dean.

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future_uncertain
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posted May 31, 2005 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Very interesting, Dean. Thanks for sharing. I love reading your posts because they're so informative. Keep the good stuff coming!

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future_uncertain
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posted May 31, 2005 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
I googled Vulcan and Einstein and here is one of the links I came up with:
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/V/Vu/Vulcan_(planet).htm

It isn't conclusive, but it's good for a start on investigating the topic.

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future_uncertain
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posted May 31, 2005 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Dean, I have a question. In your opinion, while Einstein's theory explains Mercury's orbit, does it rule out the possiblity of a planet orbiting between Mercury and the Sun?

You said that you believe it is possible that Vulcan does reside there. Would you be willing to share your reasoning on this?

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sesame
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posted May 31, 2005 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I'm no scientist or anything, but why would relativity disprove a planet? I thought relativity stated like a bowling ball on a trampoline, that the space curves, and somehow the curvature around the sun explains the motion of Mercury? Initially Einstein thought Vulcan moved this planet. Why would curvature be different? It just never made sense to me. I read another scientist reason along similar lines once and it confirmed my belief, that if astrologers have predicted Vulcan, and Einstein "discovered it" based on perturbations of Mercury's orbit, then he disproved it based on relativity... I just think that's not evidence to me. The distance between Mercury and the Sun is relatively pretty small, and if a tiny planet orbited in their then that too me would explain perturbations, not the curvature of spacetime. You get me?

Thanks for the compliment btw I don't feel I know stuff, my memories really bad and unreliable, but I've read a lot of books so sometimes I recount things, but I'd be the first to admit that I shouldn't be taken as gospel. Hence also my faith in truth is diminished, but I love theorizing and philosophising and that's all that matters

Dean.

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sesame
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posted May 31, 2005 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
I just finished reading that article. It was pretty good hey? Explained everything. I think we need to send a probe to the sun to finish this theory off. What they should do is send a comet-like probe to also test the effects of comets going around the sun. That'd be cool I just drank a LOT of black current juice, so I'm a little jumpy Or should I say bouncy?

Dean.

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future_uncertain
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posted June 01, 2005 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Black current juice sounds good. I've never tried it.

I also enjoy philosophical discussion. Yes, that is what counts!

I felt the same way you did about the theory not being sufficient enough to "rule out" the existence of a planet.

This is interesting. Hopefully someone else will have something to add to the discussion!

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sesame
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posted June 01, 2005 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Well, it makes you wonder where they got the name Vulcan from hey? I mean, did the astrologers just happen to pick the same name used for the last couple of hundred years, or did they really predict it? Considering (I think) Vulcan was thunderous, that would also be in keeping with its proximity to the sun. Ie constant radioactive blasts etc. Also, it was *discovered* and named Vulcan. Is it possible to then find another planet and name that Vulcan as well, since the old Vulcan was wrong? I dunno, but sometimes I question my faith in my beliefs as well, like maybe we follow theories because they're different and not necessarilly for their validity. The thing is, so much of what Linda said was so true, that to question some things seems to go against the truth. That Vulcan is discovered. You know what I mean? I don't know where her sources came from, but they were far out. Like, in Love signs, it seems as if she knew thousands of people that were married in all different combinations. Maybe she channelled a lot of her info, so then you wonder if the channelling process could have problems or something.

Blackcurrent Juice Rocks!

Dean.

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nevill3
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posted June 07, 2005 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nevill3     Edit/Delete Message
Heres a thought for you all. Many years ago I Envisioned a planet similar to Earth (the same size etc. (a twin) in the same orbit as earth but exactly oposite the sun/earth so we would never see it because the sun would always be in the way (-0-). this just came to me as I said many years ago I am no astronomer or scientist may be light could be bent by the suns gravity so my theory is totaly wrong but I thought I should share my theory after reading this link and the vulcan link as posted above

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future_uncertain
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posted June 07, 2005 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think that could be possible, since now we have the technology to have seen it a telescope, but wouldn't that be cool?

It's something I'd never considered before... thanks for sharing your idea!

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted June 30, 2005 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message

Besides the very realistic possability that there are a multitude of other planets and solar systems right here in the same location as ours- just vibrating on different frequencys then our eyes can see [as ghost's do here on Earth], or other wise known as "dimensions".

I dont know how more peaple here havent yet come actrost his books [except that maybe cause Miss Goodman never mentioned them in her books] but,,,

Sitchin Sitchin Sitchin

Not that I care for promoting Jews ! This one deserves his credit and then some.

Zecharia Sitchin peaple , Elves, Avatars, and Aliens.

Long ago there was a human civilization [even before Babylon and Egypt] called Sumeria.

These Sumerians had some very frequent and interesting encounters with the species of beings known as Nefilim or Anunnaki.

These Anunnaki werent of this plannet.

They were form what they called Niburu. [renamed Marduk when RAH ruled Babylon in later days].

Sorry to those who are gona take offense to this,,, Vulcan wasnt the worst "working title" Ive heard. But when we truly do find this "plannet of the Gods" , prehaps we ought to use the name it was originaly called.

And prehaps more of the folks interested in the subject should get Zecharia Sitchin's Earth chronical books, as well as his Genesis revisited.

If you have a cureous mind about such a thing, go out and get it yesterday !

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nevill3
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posted September 28, 2005 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nevill3     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the Sitchin Sitchin Sitchin he sounds wonderful I googled him today and am going out tomorrow to buy some of his books if I can find them.

Every time I start reading anything along these lines I seem to know it already??? Am I just RE-membering....??

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peace
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posted September 29, 2005 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message
Astrologers linked Virgo to three rulers:Chiron,Vesta,and Vulcan.Which is more compatible?.Hmm...I can't decide.

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