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Topic: How to live in an eternal now? The new age thinking.
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iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 890 From: Edison, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted August 21, 2005 02:01 AM
OK...a message from Emmanuel channeled by Pat. I tried my best to capture each word. Sorry for the punctuations. Here goes.
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New age is a wondrous time.For one to begin to chose not fear but love. To begin to recognize that even though one has believed that in their lives they have acted lovingly, for the most part the actions, the behavior though they may seem to be loving, truly come from fear You see you cannot live your lives in remembering , nor in anticipation. The only reality that exists is now. In this moment, as you breathe in, the next breadth of your life, all things are available to you. As you inhale you inhale thru the cutting edge of creation. That is who you are. And if you let yourself experience just that openess of being being reborn with every breath. And with every exhalation to be willing to die. To exhale all that has ever been in your life. To free yourself. To be present again in the next moment. You will never have to ask again "Who you are.?"
And if you interested in any of her books here goes: "Emmanuel's book" introduction by Ram Dass compiled by Pat Rodegast and Judith Stanton http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0553343874/ ref=pd_sim_b_1/104-3328666-4215139?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance
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Lei_Kuei Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Window Between World Registered: May 2005
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posted August 21, 2005 10:43 AM
Memory of a Goldfish... hmm no thank you lol Love every moment of my existance... for sure, but to forget or disregard my past is to lose my identity and that is something I will not do ZAP! IP: Logged |
iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 890 From: Edison, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted August 21, 2005 02:20 PM
Heh, Do not take it literally. 'Remembering' is for example the guilty feelings we carry over and remember those, not able to forgive people who have hurt us, etc. Theres nothing wrong in remembering good memories. But being attatched to those may be bad, and expecting it to remain forever that way is also not wise.And to be honest, yes live like the goldfish (every momenet is new to them) and like a small child to experience a heavenly state of mind. I really hate adults. They are nothing but a trash bag of emotional abuses they have experienced, the bitterness, the unending fight with their own egos, etc. I do count myself as one amongst adult. So take it easy folks I think, this is one of the most beautiful messages I have come across. May be from the moutaintop view that I am at.(hehe my point of view), everythings seems so clear. I better stop, the words would lose their meaning if I start explaining. I would rather have people meditate on each words and come with their own perspective. One thing I would say is that this book, like any other seems to be all about growth and where we stand. Sometimes it will strike a truth chord sometimes, it will seem it doesn't. I haven't read the book myself, but was quite impressed with those words.
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Petron Knowflake Posts: 1364 From: Paradise Registered: Mar 2004
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posted August 21, 2005 03:42 PM
the pythagorean doctrine was that one would set aside a time each morning and evening to ponder and introspect about ones actions during the previous day and what plans there were for the coming day......this was also an excercise for ones memory.......such a mental discipline is productive for progress and growth......that being said, there is no real time except the present moment and in order to live in it, it helps to cultivate the zen concept of Mu Shin.....or empty minded-ness (the concept of Mu even goes beyond that of emptyness) a person who harmonizes a daily discipline with Mu-Shin No-Shin (mind of no-mind) can be invincible in life and especially in moments of life-or-death like a battle in self defense......
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Kat Knowflake Posts: 491 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Jan 2003
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posted August 27, 2005 01:23 PM
Why be HERE now? when you can be THERE now??IP: Logged |
Kat Knowflake Posts: 491 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Jan 2003
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posted August 27, 2005 01:23 PM
Hey a double post! whatdayaknow!Green Acres is the place to be Farm living is the life for me Land spreading out so far and wide Keep Manhattan just give me the countryside. IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 8906 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 03, 2005 03:53 PM
Kat..... IAT, I have that book and love it. Do you have the second one, The Choice for Love? IMO, that one's even better. I refer to it often. Petron, IP: Logged |
iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 890 From: Edison, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted September 03, 2005 06:54 PM
Hi 26T, I have heard of it too. These books are definitely on my list. Theres so much to do in life. Life is so short really.IP: Logged |
Kat Knowflake Posts: 491 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Jan 2003
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posted September 06, 2005 06:15 PM
IAT - not sure which book your refering to? BE HERE NOW??IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 8906 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted September 06, 2005 07:22 PM
Kat, this was the book he was refering to in his first post."Emmanuel's book" A Manual for Living Comfortably in the Cosmos introduction by Ram Dass compiled by Pat Rodegast and Judith Stanton IAT, IP: Logged |
Kat Knowflake Posts: 491 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Jan 2003
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posted September 06, 2005 07:54 PM
I thought so, but my original reply lists a book title that has yet to be published "Be THERE Now" ThanksIP: Logged |
iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 890 From: Edison, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted September 06, 2005 11:36 PM
I see.'Be Here Now' is an old one: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai l/-/0517543052/qid=1126063763/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/104-4643227-2127912?v=glance&s=books and a yet to be published 'Be There Now' Gotcha. The message from post one, is not from a book. But taken from an live interview of Pat. Sorry for the confusion. Let me go an edit that post.
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Hedgewitch Knowflake Posts: 168 From: Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 06, 2005 11:49 PM
hi petron ~ can you tell me more about Mu-Shin No-Shin? how do you go about incorporating this concept into your life? thanks. IP: Logged |
ILove Knowflake Posts: 92 From: Clermont, FL - usa Registered: Jan 2005
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posted September 08, 2005 10:19 PM
iAmThat...sorry to just jump in...I saw your post last week, and it has been something I have thought about, trying to understand since the late 80's. I'm not sure if you call that Taurus or being born with Mercury in retro-grade? hehe. Anyhow, for me, it is not a matter of not having your memories of the past to look back on, because they are part of what defines the now and help shape what you are doing in the now. Just my thinking...and I still am. My everyday life is so distracting me...I use to say my thoughts were distracting me, until I realized that I am nothing without thinking. Ya know what I mean. IP: Logged |
iAmThat Knowflake Posts: 890 From: Edison, NJ, USA Registered: Sep 2004
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posted September 09, 2005 10:10 PM
Hello ILove, Why be sorry? I am here to learn from you guys as well as share what I know. Besides when I write, my own experience deepens. Its like connecting myself to all you guys in whom I see God. OK back to the topic discussion. If we lived like a Goldfish, We would forget our own name every now and then or forget mathematics or forget when was the last time we had a shower. For survival this is no good. You said ">>>>>Anyhow, for me, it is not a matter of not having your memories of the past to look back on, because they are part of what defines the now and help shape what you are doing in the now.y" Yes agreed it does. But given any situation, you would either react or not act. For example if you were hurt by a friends comment you would either totally forget about it, or remember it. It stays with you. It corrupts you. It will come out someday in a different form. Either the friend would face that brunt one day or you will have one of those 'just had a bad day' apology at work. What I meant to say, was because you had let it go when the choice was presented to you, you are a much better person compared to if you had acted otherwise. That is how the inner world is. An opposite of the world around us if you might allow me to say that. Once Jesus was said how is this inner world? He replied (I am paraphrasing) its like when a man sells all his riches to buy a single pearl from that world. We sometimes do look at the past for where we are going is indeed based on where we came from. But believing it too much. obstructs you. Makes it hard for you to see the light. Just as a stone collects dust with time. And the light is not reflected well off it. We become a victim of our circumstances Because of our past actions. The dust are the negative karma. Once the dust is collected it may be a while before its cleaned and if physical death happens you may have to bear it in the next life (At least in the present age) Sometimes God would randamly choose you and just love you too much and give you that which is impossible. We call that miracle. Sometimes, he won't. He knows that you would repeat the same mistake again. He knows everyones heart. He is already 10 steps ahead of you Sometimes a man reaches his stopping point and calls out to God. There are some who just lives a life, leaving all to God. During good times and bad times remembering his mercies. Accepting what ever come or goes as coming from Him. These people are dearly loved by God. He does not abandon's when the need comes. when Jesus was praying in the Garden before his last day. An angel appeared to him. A guest must not stay forever at the hosts place. Lest he stops the host from doing his chores. You mentioed about your thoughts disturbing you. Yes, the thoughts are not yours. You are programmed that way. Silence the mind and your self meets the cosmos. Somewhere there am I that is if I am in my dreaming state. If I am in my waking state, I am at the nearest park taking a walk for the moment
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ILove Knowflake Posts: 92 From: Clermont, FL - usa Registered: Jan 2005
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posted September 09, 2005 10:54 PM
Yea, that is what I try to do before I am in the "now" again, if someone hurt me or whatever negative you can think of, if they said I'm sorry. I would say sorry for what. That way you are never bringing that garbage forward. Of course, it never consistently works that way for me. When I get in that situation, I just try to only think about today, quite consiously. Of course, see hear I go, that doesn't always work either. And that is what I seek, the peace that passeth understanding. It sounds so corny. My husband are going to have an experiment. He is only going first becasue his shoulders are much bigger. hehe The next time I am PMS no matter how I act or react I should say, he will only use free will and not re-act. Because I am so nice, I will still try my bestest to be nice, and because he really truly is so nice, his free will would be to show love and compassion. If we fail, I'm gonna try Scientology. If ya know what that is. I will not be abandoning my faith, just actively seeking, and I will find. I have something to add to your prayer post, but not right now, I have to share the computer.IP: Logged |