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sue g
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posted September 14, 2005 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
OUr 6 year old son has gone to school this morning and taken with him 9 action figures.....inc a wizard a dragon and a ghost.....he also has tied around his wrist a silver glittery scarf of mine......mmm....very reminiscent of the 70s glam rock era!!

What is the betting he will be told to put away his little magickal figures and remove the glitter scarf............aaarghhhhh !

Do you guys think the school system will EVER include magick or even new ageish teachings in the future......do you think we shall ever have a Harry Potter type school system, even if its say in a hundred years time?

OH OH OH...... plesas say YES....cos if I thought the dreary stuff they are teaching at the moment (which I never made use of myself) was to continue......I would lose faith in the potential of the human race.

Now imagine going to skool and being taught by a Witch or Wizard adorned in their uniform.......imagine that hey guys.......lets pray for THAT !!!!!

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SunChild
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posted September 14, 2005 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
I'm with you Sue!

Besides learning how to read and write, there definantly should be more options for those who are spiritually inclined.
I mean, all the stuff I learnd in school is useless to me now, I've had to teach myself all the things I really wanted to learn.
Besides wanting to become doctors, laywers, scientists, firemans, nurses, or policeman, what about those who want to be wizards, magicians, Astrologers, Numerologists, Tarot readers, healers ect...?????
The best time to learn this stuff is when you're a CHILD!!!
If a child wants to learn these magical things they should be able to follow their desires. Damn it!

I dream of this, I guess that's a good start...!
Cheers, Sue!

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"...and dreams, don't ever forget, are the first step in manifesting wishes into reality"
-Linda Goodman

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fayte.m
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posted September 14, 2005 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Ever consider homeschooling?

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sue g
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posted September 14, 2005 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
errr.... to be honest Fayte.....no.....he is too much of a sociable child and being the only one I dont thinkt itd work for him....he loves company......no it is something I wouldnt have the energy for either .......but thnaks for the suggestion

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LibraSparkle
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posted September 14, 2005 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
I'm with you too, SweetSue.

The problem in this country is that the school system is so closely tied to Christianity that it is quite doubtful the mention of Magick will every be tolerated.

They still don't know if they should be teaching evolution or creation in the public schools here.

Silliness, really. We have Science and dinosaur bones. We win ... now the Religious Right just needs to realize it.

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pixelpixie
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posted September 14, 2005 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
AND there is room in anyone's interpretation, if we remove the rules.. for myth, faith and scientific creation/evolution.
There really is.
Such stringent criteria, if they'd bend a bit, They'd see there is no opposition at all.. everything being as one and integral to the other. ( and I am surprised, being the nature of the stories in religious texts that you really have to put faith into at such a wide birth)

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lotusheartone
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posted September 14, 2005 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
I believe, we will have such schools, Linda dreamed about it too! She was going to start a
Oober Galaxy School, A college of Knowledge.

I fancy this, when are children can be taught Truth...

A most excellent idea.
I homeschooled my girls last year, it was wonderful to have the time to spend together learning, but they need their social time too.

Love and Light

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sue g
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posted September 14, 2005 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
What age are your girl Lotus, if you dont mind me asking?

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AcousticGod
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posted September 14, 2005 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
So much of this stuff would be helpful to younger people. I wish astrology was taught throughout school growing up. There's so much to learn, and it's SO helpful on multiple levels in my opinion.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted September 14, 2005 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
I would love for such a school to exist...

Only thing is,, I would be concerned that only one path or aproach of magickal study would end up becoming the prominent curiculum . Especialy in magickal studys I can only see that as hindering. Especialy in magick,,, seems most potent for the individual student when they are allowed to find there own path and aproach.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 14, 2005 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
sue,

my girls are 14 and 15, 1 year and 10 days apart, both cancer.

Love and Light

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LibraSparkle
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posted September 15, 2005 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Wow! I thought my kiddos were close.

I have 7 and (almost) 9 year old girls. 16 months apart.

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lotusheartone
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posted September 15, 2005 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Hi LibraSparkle,

I think it's great, get it all done at once. It worked out great for me, they're the best of friends, and the stages are close together.

Love and Light to ALL

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Saturn's Child
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posted September 16, 2005 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saturn's Child     Edit/Delete Message
Sue, my daughter attended a Montessori school. The directress was a wonderful druid woman who believed in magick and faeries and the like. My daughter went to school almost everyday in a different "costume", princess, faerie, mermaid, Robin Hood...whatever. So did many of the other children.
Magick was not taught, as such, but neither was it surpressed.
Maria Montessori was an Italian doctor..far ahead of her time. She watched how children learn, and took her cues from them completely. Her classrooms are designed for the child, not the teacher. Instructional materials are all "hands on" very tactile.
The schools foster independence and creativity.
You might want to check to see if there is such a school there where you are. From what you've said of your little one, I think he would love the school and take right to it.

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ILove
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posted September 17, 2005 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ILove     Edit/Delete Message
sue g
I think this is a fab idea too. I have thought about home schooling for this reason, and my son sounds like yours, as in he has a imagination. He gets in trouble all the time for using pencils or erasers or scraps of paper for playtime. hehe It is hard for these kids to fit in too. Darn it. I think as well as Christianity being inbred in the school system , psychiatry is to. They even have recommended Ritlin for my babe.Anyway, Linda Goodman recommends a book for all kids to read, it might be something you could read together, very esoteric a "bible" for new age thinkers.
I have it on my wish list.

Astrology, the space Age Science
by Joseph F. Goodavage
She says it should be required reading for all schools.


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teaselbaby
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posted September 17, 2005 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teaselbaby     Edit/Delete Message
There is Kepler college, a school that teaches astrology exclusively.
http://www.kepler.edu/index.html
Kepler College Graduation

For the first time in four hundred years, academic degrees in Astrological Arts and Sciences were awarded to the first graduating class of Kepler College.

Ceremonies were on October 10, 2004 in Seattle, Washington, U.S.A.

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I know you were talking about primary and secondary schools, plus a lot more than astrology, but it's a start.

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sue g
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posted September 18, 2005 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
WOW!

Thanks guys - great input there.......we are a bit stuck for choice here as we live rurally and the Gealscoil is the best out of all of them..the good thing is they are getting a drama teacher in soon and they get to learn music - fiddle, whistle etc....so that is something positive.....

In the meantime, we shall teach him to keep believing in the magic....and TBH he dont have much choice in this house, with a mother like me......(where are the fairy smilies)..........

Thanks again friends

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teaselbaby
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posted July 01, 2006 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teaselbaby     Edit/Delete Message
I thought of this thread when I read this story:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2136578&page=1

Witch School Opens Doors in Midwest Town
School Moves From Cyberspace to Home of the Cornjerker
By DURRELL DAWSON at ABC News.

June 30, 2006 — In the "Harry Potter" series, the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry sits in a mystical Scotland location, shrouded by magic that hides it from unknowing humans.

Starting next week, in the unlikeliest of places, a real witch school will open its doors to the public in a place known as the Sweet Corn Capital of the World.

After almost five years of existence on the Internet, Witch School is expected to operate under normal business hours in the town of Hoopeston, Ill., about 100 miles south of Chicago.

The school is dedicated to educating the public in Wicca, a neo-Pagan religion that incorporates nature and magic into its theology. Until now the school has existed almost entirely on the Internet.

Ed Hubbard, the school's CEO and director, was lured to Hoopeston by what have been considered to be some of the lowest real estate prices in the country.

The town is known primarily for its annual Sweet Corn Festival; its high school mascot known as the Cornjerker; and the National Sweetheart Pageant, which has produced eight Miss America winners.

The town could soon be known as a Pagan colony, after Witch School starts letting visitors utilize its ritual space, view the studio where it produces videos for the Internet, and peruse its library of religious, metaphysical and historical texts.

It's a humble beginning, Hubbard says. The school is adorned with a "Witch School" sign and has maintained a quiet presence since moving to Hoopeston in 2003. He says that with an estimated 30 new students to 50 new students registering on the Web site every day, the "cyberministry" is rapidly growing.

The school has roughly 120,000 active students who enroll in Witch School's Internet courses, which range from Druid and Celtic history to crystal and gem magic, Hubbard says. Students then take at least one test a month to stay active and can eventually become an accredited member of the clergy.

"We're really getting to be a functional community," Hubbard said of the increasing presence of Witch School online. The school is also increasing its visibility in Hoopeston.

Not-So-Warm Welcome

When Hubbard first announced plans to house Witch School in Hoopeston, population 6,000, it caused an uproar among some residents, who feared the school would bring notoriety to the central Illinois town.

In 2003 as he finalized plans to move from Chicago to Hoopeston, residents of the town and its surrounding areas mobilized, signing petitions in opposition to the school and lobbying the City Council to try to stop it.

"We did what we felt was our place to do at the time," said Pastor Steve Nelson of Hoopeston's First Baptist Church. He was one of several pastors who had held prayer meetings outside of Witch School's property.

Nelson says the people of Hoopeston are all too often reminded of the school's presence, because it occupies a former brick horse stable and it is in the middle of town near the Hoopeston Civic Center.

Still, he says he has come to accept the school as a permanent fixture and moved on, even though he doesn't approve of Wiccan beliefs.

"I just disagree with their anti-God approach and feel it's not good for our community," he said. "When given the opportunity, I would speak against it."

Witch School isn't the only Wicca-friendly business that has been lured to Hoopeston by low real estate prices.

There is a Wiccan-owned bookstore, and Catherine Novak moved her crafts and herbs shop from Virginia Beach, Va., to Hoopeston to cut back on expenses and expand Internet sales.

Novak describes her business, Beads and Botanicals, as a combination of New Age and hippie. She says that in the six months it has been open, her business in Hoopeston has suffered from a perceived connection to Witch School and Wicca.

"A lot of people in this area are nervous about new things," she said.

Novak says some of the locals balked when she offered a newsletter about herbs and jewelry-making, and others have been taken aback by the voodoo dolls she sells. She emphasizes that she also sells Christian postcards.

"I don't see any reason to promote any religion over anything else," she said. Novak says she isn't "pounding the pavement for Wicca" and considers herself pagan, a broader term that could encompass several religions, including Wicca.

A Growing Religion

According to the American Religious Identification Survey, there were approximately 134,000 Americans claiming Wicca as their religion in 2001 — up from 8,000 people in 1990.

"It's still a very small group, but it is growing," said Ariela Keysar, co-author of the book "Religion in a Free Market."

Keysar, an associate research professor at Trinity College's Public Policy and Law Program, worked on the study, which is one of the broadest surveys on religion in the United States.

Part of this growth could be attributed to the prevalence of Wiccan Web sites and portrayals of witchcraft in Hollywood movies that have been "less than negative," Hubbard said.

As for his students, he says they come from everywhere: South Africa and Croatia to Australia and Uruguay via the Internet. Witch School is not alone online.

Like Witch School, the Cherry Hill Seminary in Vermont offers pagan-related classes on the Internet. However, Kirk White, the school's president, says there are a few differences in its education.

"It poses a number of unique challenges when you're talking about one experiential-based thing like religion," he said.

The Cherry Hill Seminary is a three-year program that requires an on-campus residency to include a more hands-on approach. Still, White says he respects what the Witch School does.

Hubbard, the Witch School's director, considers his decision to move the institution to Hoopeston as an experiment in religious tolerance. Most residents of Hoopeston are at least neutral toward Wicca and Witch School, he says.

When Witch School finally opens its doors to the public on July 1, Hubbard says he won't expect a flood of visitors, though he feels it will be a step toward acceptance as Wiccans in Hoopeston.

"Three years ago the question was did we have a right to be here," he said. "Now it's can we be successful."

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ScorpioRising
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posted July 02, 2006 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpioRising     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Guys,

REALLY interesting topic. I happen to be a teacher of the magical arts (among other things) for kids and adults alike. I teach tarot, astrology, numerology, basics of palmistry,and meditation. and I teach all these subjects ONLINE. If any of you are interested or think your kids might benefit-please feel free to email me!

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