posted September 15, 2005 03:31 AM         

Thus it wants intelligenty students to come and study in their universities , do research , and work in their factories etc... therefore some terrorists gain easy access to america .. and this was one of the deficiencies listed in the report produced after the 9/11 attacks.
i want you people to speak as much as you can for or against the statement ... its very very important .. and please do it as early as possible ... because my country's fate might be tyhe same because there are certain changes being introduced in the educational system here .. i can't explain much here : u guys just do what i have asked u to!

posted September 15, 2005 03:38 AM         

I can't really understand what you are talking about. Could you explain that differently?

posted September 15, 2005 11:53 PM         

Right, so you are saying that the United States of America was attacked by extremists four years ago is because it hosts International students.

Then you state that 'its education system being shallow' Which education system - the world's or the USA's?

Then you say: Thus it wants intelligent students to come and study in their universities , do research , and work in their factories etc...

You continue thus:

therefore some terrorists gain easy access to america .. and this was one of the deficiencies listed in the report produced after the 9/11 attacks.

In essence you say that the USA was attacked because it hosts International students, and that the USA's education system is shallow, so it didn't detect the terrorists, who you seem to imply posed as International students.

The penny has just dropped. Of course - the September 11th hijackers attended flying schools where they learnt to fly the aeroplanes.

If i've misinterpreted your message, please clarify you statement so that the discussion can begin without further misiterpretation on the part of other posters.

The one part i didn't really understand was the last paragraph:

i want you people to speak as much as you can for or against the statement ... its very very important .. and please do it as early as possible ... because my country's fate might be tyhe same because there are certain changes being introduced in the educational system here .. i can't explain much here : u guys just do what i have asked u to!

So what can this forum's posters do to prevent countries, which are generally run by governments, from changing their education systems? Why can't you explain? Which country are you in? Is our collective chain is being yanked?

If i've interpreted you correctly, i'd argue against your statement. Plenty of countries host International students - the UK being one of them. The recent London bombings were carried out by British citizens.

The more you try and guard against terrorism by security measures, for example excluding certain countries nationals from the education system, the more restrictions you put on the national life of the country's citizens. Life would become so bogged down by restrictions and fear of attacks that nobody would do anything. The terrorists will have won - we'll have handed them victory on a plate!

posted September 16, 2005 08:18 PM         

I haven't a clue about what changes in your country's educational system that has you so worried, but I doubt those terrorist gave so much asa flying f' about "international students" aside for wanting to make them afraid....which was their goal for all of the US anyhow, so that's nothing special. It also wouldn't matter to these extremeist how good or bad our education system is - it's an infidel system, and so anyone attending our schools would be either infidels or "defiled" and not worthy of Allah. That's all they would see.

Please don't come here and preach about 9/11. We Americans are be quite aware of what this tragedy was about. This was an attack on *our* country, on *our* way of life, on *our* land* and against *our* families, friends and neighbors. It cost thousands of lives, many of whom died in acts of valor and honor during the attacks or in its aftermath. Americans are a very proud people - we don't deserve to be patronized or mislead, nor should we tolerate any bullsh*t that seeks to obfuscate the real intent and the real impact of this event.

posted September 16, 2005 09:23 PM         

Its not the education system. But the communucation between them and immigration department. In america most departments operate independently and there is no synergy. For example the fire department and police department. The loopholes are being addressed I believe.

America is a melting pot of cultures. Its the energy of different people that makes it what they are. No other country (besides India) has such a complex interaction of different cultures.

I do not think America would shut its doors to bright and intelligent people. It will become increasingly difficult for such students to get Visa I believe. Some will end up remaining in their own country due to all the hassles.

I sincerely believe that the world is becoming a Global village. The terrorists did what they did to get USA's attention to the palestians problem. I think they were successful. America has woken up. Israels have freed up some land space.
Terrorism can be wiped out. By love.

posted September 20, 2005 05:01 AM         

what i meant was that compared to mi country(india) the education thats given there in the US at undergraduate level according to my knowledge is not as good as is given here ..........

so the US recruits students , enjeeniers etc. from elsewhere thus giving easy access to students who have been specifically sent as spies etc..

i am not politically informed which is why i asked u to write for or against ..
and when i did so it was implied that i wish 2 have ur opinion coz i wasnt myself sure ..
also i have bin using words like "etc" .. that surely hint that i have vague ideas of what m saying.,..

posted October 01, 2005 04:24 PM         

Now I don't know who did it. But I don't believe it was a bunch of terrorists.

------------------
Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

posted October 01, 2005 04:33 PM         

I live in Canada
and would say that the U.S. eduacational system is alwways striving for the best, having lived there most of my life.
Perhaps too much stress on trying to out do everyone, with having the best to offer for education.

My opinion
yes this has allowed many in
that could harm the U.S.
The U.S.
is trying to unite worldwide
trying to have Peace

We must Image this
Peace
Worldwide......