posted October 26, 2005 07:08 PM         

There's so much in this world that we don't understand that even if we choose not to personally believe doesn't mean it's necessarily not there. Like I have no personal experience with ghosts/spirits, but the evidence is out there, and people I know do believe in them. Just because I don't believe (due to my experience) doesn't change the reality for another.

Also, most of us have had some freaky experience or another that is virtually unexplainable unless we find another who shares a similar experience. The more people, the more definition to the experience, the more probability that it is something even if it's unexplainable.

posted October 26, 2005 08:09 PM         

But beebuddy didn't ask me, he asked Fayte.

posted October 27, 2005 12:10 AM         

"And if the NDE contains something that isn't stored in memory?"

posted October 27, 2005 12:37 AM         

Sorry, I saw What the Bleep Do We Know not too long ago.

posted October 27, 2005 01:01 AM         

"Peri" here at Lindaland has a great quote as her signature... "It all depends on how we look at things, and not how they are in themselves."
Carl G. Jung

This doesn't really tie into the NDE thing other than that the desire for continuation of that which is impermanent (thought) leads to gross delusions about the nature of things (the second part of Peri's quote). The REAL meat is the second part of that quote becuase it applies to us more than the first part IMO.

posted October 27, 2005 01:35 AM         

So are you saying that we humans are delusional about everything?

Are you saying further that the more we try to define something the less that something conforms to our definition?

posted October 27, 2005 06:34 AM         

When our boy was 6 months old I went to see the local White Witch....ooo...some woman....the first thing she told me whilst holding and looking at my hands was "oh you had a c.section, lost lots of blood, nearly died, had an NDE, but came back to look after yer son......

This was just confirmation......plus I always imagined having one, as I did a c.section...!!

posted October 27, 2005 12:31 PM         

But I have had an OBE. I was in a very relaxed and meditative state, and rather suddenly I was 'floating' above, looking down on myself sitting on the floor. Weird, that at first I didn't recognize myself. Almost as if I were looking at a stranger, because I felt no connection at the time to my 'body'. There was a soft lavender glow around my body(aura?).

My thoughts and feelings all appeared unchanged. In fact, anxiety is what instantly pulled me back into myself. As I began feeling awed at the experience and afraid, seeing my body, and wondering if I wouldn't be able to come back...I will tell you that it seemed (and I truly believe this) that the feeling/thinking of these fears is the very thing that Immediately brought me back. Since then, it has strengthened my belief that our Souls have the power to manifest through thought/feeling energy. In this World...but especially Beyond. In this world, our power to manifest through physical means, possibly lessons our Soul's powers. In the other realms their are no such means to distract our Soul's potential.

Imagine: think a place and instantly you are transported there. Imagine a place or person and instantly it/they appear before you. After Death, our Grandest Journey awaits us.

posted October 28, 2005 04:27 AM         

I work in health so have had some "odd" experiences around people dying or have wittnessed their "odd" experiences.

My mother had a near death experience in the 1960's. She put it down to anaesthetic drugs but the reality I think is that near death experiences can be categorised into 4 distinct types and it doesn't really matter what culture or religion you are, they take the same form. In the near death experience research there are 4 cases of people that were born blind and come back and descibe sight, the colours etc. Near death experiences have been occurring since the year dot but there are many more in recent times due to better resussitation techniques. I have been out of my body but only after days in a meditation retreat and what I saw was just as real as what I am seeing now typing this. I absolutely believe because I have found enough evidence and my own experiences back this evidence up, though I have not had a "near death experience" There really is more to this life than what we see.

Love and light