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thirteen
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posted November 03, 2005 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Ok now I am learning that karma is a choice. But in Linda's Star Signs book she presents it as universal law. How can it be law but be a choice? I understand the concept of choice but my mind won't let go of the universal law thing. That makes it seem as if we don't have a choice about Karma.

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lotusheartone
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posted November 03, 2005 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
We have a choice, we can lighten the Karma, by undertaking to do everything with LOVE, come full-circle, before anyone gets hurt
that way the karma is avoided, by acceptance on your part, you forgive, and end the circle.
I hope that helps.

Love and Light to ALL

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posted November 03, 2005 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Svetlana     Edit/Delete Message
I actually thought about too. And I think it all comes to what you believe in your heart of hearts.

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iAmThat
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posted November 03, 2005 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Welll the law of the universe is the matrix. By the choices we make in life we try to escape the law.


They are both true.

However what also is true is that the other worlds have laws as well. Its not intense as this earth plane. I am guessing.

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iAmThat
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posted November 03, 2005 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
You also have come to this world to experience bliss. "Don't worry be Happy."


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iAmThat
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posted November 03, 2005 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Perhaps we must ask ourselves "Are laws really meant to be broken?"

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thirteen
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posted November 04, 2005 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
So then maybe.... we set up the matrix so we have the authority to change it???

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sesame
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posted November 04, 2005 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Rules are made to be broken. Laws are universal - Karma equals a cycle of give/receive, action/reaction. This will transpire regardless of belief because it is law. Whether you flow with or against the stream is up to you. This is freedom.

Dean.

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thirteen
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posted November 04, 2005 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Ok then, is it like what Linda goodman said about astrology. As soon as you learn about it you are then given more freedom from its restrictions. Maybe its like that for Karma, as you learn more and more about it you become more free to navigate around the heavy negative parts of it???

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posted November 04, 2005 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Well, perhaps you have to ask: Who creates the Laws?

You do, of course.

Yesterday I caught a bit of Catherine Crier on television arguing with someone about parental rights. Apparently there was some discussion about the Bill of Rights, Constitution, etc., and who has the ultimate rights to a child's welfare, the parents, or the government. Well, who wrote our governing laws, and who elects officials? Parents, of course. And by that I just mean people. If we don't like the rules, elect better officials.

Think of Linda's Star Signs as a primer, not law.

Stop separating yourself from God/dess.

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posted November 04, 2005 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Svetlana     Edit/Delete Message
"Stop separating yourself from God/dess"
Could you explain this phrase please thirteen

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thirteen
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posted November 04, 2005 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
I beleive that was Trillian's phrase.
If i had to guess I would say that means we are all god/godess and to continue to beleive in the separation from same as we mere humans have done so for about a billion years will not bring the peace and harmony we are searching for. We need to know that we are all god.

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iAmThat
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posted November 04, 2005 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Well every one breaks the law. We all have broken it. We are humans, the lesser god/dess. No one understands the law without breaking it

Only knowledge of the law will set you free. And although you have come to this earth to enjoy bliss, the highest bliss is when you discover your true self.

Everyone will understand their true self with time. Thirteen its a great beginning that you have asked such question. The answer of all your questions lies with in you.



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thirteen
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posted November 04, 2005 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
Iamthat: Yesterday I was able to feel "bliss" for the first time in my life or probably many lives. It came after some deep understanding of the things I have been reading about most of my life. It was unlike anything I can describe. I was afraid to come to work as I thought i was not going to be able to come down off my high. I thought I might just be glowing. Do you know what I am speaking of?

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posted November 04, 2005 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beebuddy     Edit/Delete Message
Traditionally, karma=voilition.

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iAmThat
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posted November 04, 2005 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Thirteen,

Yes. I think I understand. But its ok if I don't. You do. And thats important. I wanted to narrate an experience of someone, but I won't do it because you will have some notion of what bliss is and your mind will be sad that you didn't have that same experience. Now do you understand what I mean

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posted November 04, 2005 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
I get it as much as I can right now.

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sesame
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posted November 04, 2005 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
I just wanted to clarify that I don't mean Law as in the American Constitution, but universal statements of truth. I'm sure the constitution gets altered all the time by politicians who have found a new way of lining their pockets. I just mean there are certain things that seem to hold true over everything, but simultaneously this has to be untrue. I'm sure God breaks his own Law's occasionally. But I guess I mean traditionally, it's nearly impossible to live without influence from the Law (ie scientific, metaphysical, etc). Once you attain enlightenment, maybe you may find loopholes that you could exploit.

Just theorizing,
Dean.

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sVirgo
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posted November 04, 2005 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sVirgo     Edit/Delete Message
Sesame,I liked this concept of loopholes!!

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guy_me_19
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posted November 06, 2005 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for guy_me_19     Edit/Delete Message
karma is a sanskrit word whose literal meaning is work ,this word is also shared by the 'hindi' language , n because i m in india so when i heard the phrase "law of karma" (when it was worded by indian celebrities in interviews) i immediately knew what was implied .. n when i read about in star signs .. it only 'reminded me of something i already knew' ...
so well.. y dont u look at it like that ...
To me it never was a law.. i guess that only when it was "exported" to the west did it begin to be known as some "law" ; to me it simnply had been ...
I min hinduisn teaches karma.
Do your work without any attachment whatsoever.. n without thinking about the results .. is how i believe every indian(people knowing hindi) takes this "law" .
I min it really is very very simple !

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