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sue g
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posted November 18, 2005 11:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really enjoyed reading Fayte's accounts of sexual healing a while back and was wondering if anyone here has used sex as a healing tool.

What do ye guys think about people using the net to make contact with others, even if it is converse about sex, whether it be on an impersonal basis or alternatively a close up and personal thing....ie dirty talk...stories, fantasies etc?

As I am hoping to train as a sex therapist in the future, I shall need to take into account all the different forms of sexual healing.

How do ye feel about using sex purely as a release or therapy, with no strings attached.....like with fayes stories....

Needless to say I am raising this issue here cos where I live in rural Ireland, there are not that many people who even broach the subject, God bless em.....so any opinions would be appreciated.....

All in the name of research of course......

Thanks

love

Sue xxx

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lotusheartone
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posted November 18, 2005 11:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately

I think it goes against the very fabric of our Universe
and keeps us away from finding our twin and God

making Love, is all you need

Sex, is lust, seeking satisfation physically,
making love, is mind body and soul
the trinity connection

Your Body Temple
YOur Church Within

YOUR FREE WILL CHOICE

Love and Light to ALL

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posted November 18, 2005 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.~


Each must find their own blending of the physical and the spiritual, and each must justify it themselves.
It will absolutely change as you do, as circumstances do, as it should... let yourself evolve along with it and discover new joyful things.

To Each Their Own.
Bottom line.

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posted November 18, 2005 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm...will have to think on this one...

but I will say that there's no safer sex than sex over the internet, or what is commonly called 'cybering.'

How do I feel about using sex purely as a release or therapy, with no strings attached?

I think I could be ok with that. In a committed relationship there may be strings attached, but sex often serves purely as release or as a bit of therapy. Why shouldn't a person outside of a committed relationship be able to reap the same benefits? Couldn't masturbation be considered to be this to some degree?

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Iqhunk
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posted November 18, 2005 12:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The great Indian sage Vishwamitra himself could not resist no strings attached sex when he forgot his years of meditation to chase the celestial nymph Mohini. So as an ordinary mortal, I have no issues separating sex for pleasure with love though sex in a loving relationship will theoretically feel better due to emotional waves enhancing the neural receptivity.

I think Life is far greater than just a twin soul merger or pure atheistic hedonism. Our soul has to evolve to probably create our own galaxies so from that perspective, sex is as insignificant as a solitary oxygen molecule that is part of the gust we breath in and out every day.

I see absolutely no problems with any kind of sex.

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sue g
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posted November 18, 2005 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey great answers guys...nice to see so many open minded people and quite refreshing from the somewhat closed minds one encounters in a repressed country such as Ireland...(.albeit it is changing slowly).

Keep em coming all.....and good loving to everyone !!!

I really want to help open people up to their true sexual selves so I have to spend time asking lots of questions......what a great way to work hey....?

xxx

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fayte.m
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posted November 18, 2005 01:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THE FIRST RULES OF SEX:
1.DO no harm. Emotionally or physically.
2.Consentual/mutual...never by force or coercion.
3.Honesty...lay your cards on the table...everyone involved. If it is only for pleasure or fun...be honest about that! Agree beforehand on the perameters.
If it has other motives...love...or even entrapment...then step back and rethink the situation. Are you sure? Do you think it is right at this time or for the right reasons?
4.Masterbate before a date! If you become truly interested in having sex...you will still be able to later.
But..the release of sexual energy before a tempting encounter, will help you think with your heart and head not your genitalia!
5.Safe sex...these days sex can kill. Then there are the old issues of pregnancy. Do not be stupid. Same for drinking/drugs. Do not have sex with a new person or the first time with even someone you know...while you are under the influence! Your impaired judgement can be something you may regret later or even cause death.
6.There is nothing wrong with the comfort sex..the grieving sex..the tantric..the therapeutic sex...or just silly playful sex.
As long as everyone involved knows where they all stand on the reasons for engaging in sex. Be clear of why..and the perameters.
7.SEX IS NOT LOVE!!!! REMEMBER THAT! It can be used to further express love...just as words..gifts...kindness...but SEX in and of its self IS NOT LOVE! Too many people get the two confused.
Especially when passion comes into the equation!
Which takes me back to #4!!!!!! MASTERBATE BEFORE THE DATE!
Use the bathroom DURING a tempting encounter if need be. What is the rush to get into each others bodies?
Ok...
There are always exceptions.
But SEX is not a sin! Or an impedement to spiritual growth! Sex can be used to become more in touch with others and yourself in non sexual ways.
Some persons I have counseled have asked if masterbation is evil, or made them evil perverts,(and was given the moral/dogmatic reasons for their concerns) I said: This is your body...it belongs to you. It is said we are made in God's image...
And God does not create junk. If you are ashamed to know you own body then what business do you have going after another person to gain sexual release?
How many folks know their own body?
Get out those mirrors..camera..video recorder..whatever...explore your body and its sexual responses....and discover YOU... before you go out to join with others!
Many cases of impotence and frigidity could be cured by removing the aspect of personal body ignorance and societal/cultural/dogmatically inmposed shame..from the issue of Sex and human sexuality.

AGAIN...there is nothing wrong with sex...just as with food..or any pleasure...unless you have, or use it for the wrong reasons.
Have respect for your own body and others!
Sex is not a weapon...or a bribe or the withholding to be used as punishment. That is abuse of Sex!
Ok..I am rambling...
Sue...Counseling folks in this matter is a very complex but fasinating thing! But...beware...you must not freak out! I have heard some real doozies!
Later!
Fayte


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lotusheartone
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posted November 18, 2005 01:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fayte,

that was excellent, thanks for sharing

Love and Light to ALL

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sue g
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posted November 18, 2005 01:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wonderful stuff fayte...thanks a million for contributing from that wonderfully open mind.......

Excuse my ignorance....but what is a doozie...hahaha?

xxx

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Lialei
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posted November 18, 2005 02:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*applause*
*whistle*

Well said, Fayte!!!

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fayte.m
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posted November 18, 2005 02:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Sue! Lia! Lotus!
Doozies!
I think I have heard just about everything!
But here are some tame but funny ones I have been asked or told.
1.A guy has a bone in his penis..that is why it is called a "Boner!"(whoa! a man is not a mink!)
2.The average guy is 7 or 8 inches!
(Try 4 1/2 inches fellows!)
3.A virgin cannot get pregnant!(I have known some pregnant virgins and surprised fathers to be.)
4.like above..ignorance =babies! A man cannot impregnate a woman if he masterbates first. He will use up his "seed" and only have "seedless" semen the next time. Oh my! That was a good one! Hello! There will still be some of those swimmers in the uretha unless you urinate! I would not count on that either! Same goes for the pre ejaculate fluids.
I also am amazed how many folks do not know the difference between the female uretha and clitoris...both women and men!

Also the number of sexually abused folks is much higher than most think. And not just females being the victims. It crosses all ages and genders! But it is kept hush hush.

Alot of folks still carrying around sexual abuse baggage and dogmatically induced shame....it is so sad.
Ok...later!
Fayte

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1scorp
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posted November 18, 2005 03:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I can add one more to your list fayte.

- A woman has to orgasm in order to get pregnant. It was a 40 something year old woman that told me that when I was 17.

Thing is, I should have told her the truth... I just didn't feel comfortable "teaching" a woman that was my mother's age at the time. Looking back... I wonder if I should've said something?

I agree in that when two people are having sex, that each one should know the other's motives. i.e. for fun, they're in love, etc.

It saves a lot of hurt feelings.

Also agree on the masturbation before a date.
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fayte.m
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posted November 18, 2005 03:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
QUOTE:
A woman has to orgasm in order to get pregnant.

1scorp! ! I was going to say that! And thank you!
QUOTE:
I agree in that when two people are having sex, that each one should know the other's motives. i.e. for fun, they're in love, etc.

It saves a lot of hurt feelings.

Also agree on the masturbation before a date.

>>>>>>>THANK YOU!
I just was in a hurry...but you are so right! That is a very common one!
Also..the fools who sadly think they cannot get a sexually transmitted disease if they avoid intercourse or the person looks clean and has no sores.
I have known many folks who have hepatitis..herpes..and A.I.D.S. and also have died...because they believed that intercourse was the only way to catch something and that sore free is safe.
Even if a person has bleeding gums after toothbrushing or eating crunchy foods..it increases the risk of disease transmission...by deep kissing and or oral sex.
Intercourse is NOT the only way to aquire some very nasty things. And I have also known a few guys who have died, who were convinced that A.I.D.S. is/was only a gay thing!
Very sad how ignorance can lead to illness and death..and transmitting these scourges to the naive and innocent.
I really feel for this generation! In my day..pennicillin would cure the clap...and tiny livestock, while gross, were easily eradicated. But nowadays the sexual arena has become a very dangerous place.

As far as more doozies..
There are folks who think that people can mate and produce offspring with animals.

Ok..I am off again..
later!
Fayte

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ScotScorp
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posted November 18, 2005 04:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fayte!

Wonderful wonderful wonderful!!!

And another myth- You can only get pregnant when you are "ovulating".

Fact: Even though it's unlikely, especially after a woman's menstral period is over, a woman can get pregnant ANYTIME, including when she's on her period!
http://www.avert.org/faqpreg.htm
http://www.uiowa.edu/~shs/sex6.htm

So don't forget to stop the tadpoles!

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Svetlana
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posted November 18, 2005 04:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have answers myself but I'd keep on reading others'. Fascinating staff.

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1scorp
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posted November 18, 2005 04:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You made some good points fayte.

Another one I remember. (Why do these things stick out in my memory?)

Again, I was a teen at the time. The discussion of pregnancy had come up... there was a guy (in his 20's) who had said something along the the lines of:

*Excuse the crassness*
"My girlfriend better urinate afterwards. There's no excuse in a girl getting pregnant".

He was trying to appear tough. Looked like an a** instead.

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1scorp
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posted November 18, 2005 04:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing to do with the topic.

I've had a couple of beers. I have the greatest boss.

You guys have a good weekend.
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sue g
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posted November 18, 2005 06:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a male client in his 40s who asked me if it was true that women bled every month.......he was a virgin too......imagine how repressed he was......I hope I helped him a little....

I also worked on a guy who was an ex priest, he would have been 50+ who said the only woman who had ever touched him was his mother...he came to me for reiki and massage......I thought I had killed him as he was so sound asleep...at peace....aaahhh bless...lovely guy....


xxx

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posted November 18, 2005 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool thread

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future_uncertain
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posted November 18, 2005 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is a fact that you can only get pregnant when you're ovulating... an egg is necessary for fertilization. But there are some interesting theories on when this occurs. The answer is that it can be different for each woman, and different for the same woman from month to month.

You can ovulate during your period. This is why you can get pregnant during this time.

Women who know their bodies may be more in tune with their ovulation cycles. Don't rely on this for birth control unless you have this kind of relationship with your body and you are prepared to deal with the consequences should you be wrong.

I just watched a video last night called "The Miracle of Life." I've seen it before and enjoyed it very much. If you want to see the processes of ovulation, sperm production, ejaculation, fertilization, fetal growth, and birth up close and personal, you should check it out. Very WOW!

Sexual healing...

Do you think that sex is more important to some than it is to others? I mean naturally... not because of learned ideas about sex.

I know that for me it is difficult to go without sex. I will be having a cervical procedure done within the next month or so and it will require that I abstain from sex for up to six weeks.

I'm already concerned with how I'll deal with this. Sex has so many uses... I definitely feel that it is vital to my well-being.

If I am not involved in a relationship I do not engage in sexual flings (although I wouldn't say that this type of thing would never be possible for me. I wouldn't know unless I were in a different situation.) When I am single, I do not need sex in the same way I do when I am involved with someone.

I need the closeness, the physical unity, the release, the one-ness, the "promise" that sex is between two people in love-- the affirmation, the reaffirmation.

I think I've used sex as a way of healing. I have been involved with men who are closed off in this area, and guiding them to a place where they are more aware of what they want, what they need, what they are giving, can be very rewarding for both of us.

I could talk about this all day. I love everything about sex, and not just because it feels good. It is truly a magical thing.

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posted November 18, 2005 10:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My viewpoint is that...

- Sex is natural and chemical too

- It always begins in the mind first then travels from head to down there. So bottom line is imagine a lot. Don't always imagine that you are banging a star. That could be pretty dangerous and could turn out to be one of those fetish hehehehe

- There is no way but safe sex, if you are playing a lot

- Always protect yourself first

- Theres no such thing as I have no precum. Every normal 'thingy' has some precum. They are meant to lubricate the glans during performance.

- A man's primary function is to really ejaculate more sperms. A woman I believe enjoys the pleasure feeling more than man.
That is receiving can be more fun than giving. Go, read the Koran why it says its okay for a man to have multiple wifes.

- A cut **** feels less pleasure than an uncut **** . But a cut **** is more cleaner than an uncut **** under the same hygieninc conditions. Be careful with the cut **** though. A cut **** can create more abrasions because of their extra performance......

- God is not a bad engineer to have created recreational and waste disposal next to each other. The purpose may well have been so that we be discreet and learn to trust our head more than the lower part of our body.

- There are people who are sick and some who enjoy the bounties of God. I rather enjoy the bounties of God. Its more fun to taste sugar than be sugar.


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Iqhunk
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posted November 19, 2005 02:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fayte's point number 4 has to be the perfect tip to prevent all kinds of relationship awkwardness at any stage of life.

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sue g
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posted November 19, 2005 07:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel sexually healed every time I go to my local supermarket. There is this woman works on the checkout and I did a reading for her a while ago. We made a very good connection....she is very very sexy and all we seem to discuss is men and sex.....hahahaha...I used to hate shopping LOL...

So today I see her and she starts saying that she thinks my husband is really cute and sweet and "I bet you pull him about bit and have fun with him".....phew....she......is hot hot hot.....and I can totally be myself with her....hot hot hot...hahaha.

Oh yeah did I mention that she was a SCORPIO...her birthday is 3 days after mine?

So my point is even discusing sex can at times be a very healing experience (especially in places where it wouldnt normally be talked about).

Love and passion to all

Sue xxx xxx

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fayte.m
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posted November 19, 2005 10:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see I have alot to comment on! Busy today..will try and peek back in later!
But I do want to comment on this:
Quote:
It is a fact that you can only get pregnant when you're ovulating... an egg is necessary for fertilization.

>>YES! But the day of ovulation..while prime..as is the day after...are not the only days to be able to concieve. Fertilization can occur from sperm being deposted a few days before to a few days afterwards. It all depends on several factors:
1.The viability..and motility of the sperm.
2.The cervical fluid quality of the cervical crypts...these crypts are necesssary under usual(unassisted fertilization) to achieve fertilization) fertilization..,this is why women who have damage to these ervial crypts..from cone biopsies or infection..or injury..etcetera...have a very low chance of pregnancy. An I.U.D. can also cause crypt damage.
3.Viability of the egg.
4.If ovulation occurs when there is viable sperm in the the cervical crypts the egg still needs time to travel there. Fertilization can take place from there to even higher...as in the sometimes undersirable area of inside the follopian tubes, which can lead to a tubal or ectopic pregnany which usually must be terminated. If the tubes are fine..this is a good place however, as then implantation of the fertilized ovum can implant high in the uterine wall.
5.So yes! Ovulation is required but the window for fertilization lasts generally a few days before, during and after in respect to when the sperm was deposited.

Some theories say that sperm deposited before ovulation or during, produces a female. And sperm deposted late during ovulation or later...produce a male. I do not know wether there is any validity to this interesting theory.
If a woman's cycle is regular as clockwork, the timing for achieving pregnancy or avoiding it can be maximized.
However to avoid pregnany..I would advise a barrier method(or a combination spermicide and barrier) not the rhythm method. But the taking of one's basal temperatures each morning and charting them along with checking the cervical mucus...is a very good predictor of ovulation about to occur and when it does.
Yes ladies...this will mean having to touch yourself to get inside, near the cervix to obtain a sample of your cervial fluid. It will be of varying consistancies depending on what stage of fertile/infertile you are in.
Ok.
Later folks!
Fayte

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posted November 19, 2005 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent info, Fayte!

The cervical fluid check is easy: you do have to reach in to obtain a "sample." If the fluid stretches between your finger and thumb, chances are good that you are ovulating. If the fluid is more tacky and refuses to stretch, then you probably are not ovulating.

Again... only use this method if you are sure you are familiar with your personal cervical fluids, and if you are willing to deal with a pregnancy.

It is interesting to follow your body's changes, though, and I recommend that every woman becomes familiar with herself.

This is a great topic! Seriously... if any of you get a chance to check out that video, I think you'll enjoy it!

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