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Topic: Fayte, I honestly respect you...
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pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 2462 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted December 06, 2005 01:04 PM
I don't agree with swooping in in droves.... I don't... but also, you get what you give in a lot of ways, and by defending from the 'lower'. like schoolyard tactics, or church guilt tactics, I can see how it propagates. I wouldn't let anyone get away with talking like that, and I don't.People will defend passionately ( on both sides) what they believe in, if there is majority, then you have more posts. I should hope people don't gang up, but sometimes it happens, due to likemindedness and a shared sense of outrage. IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 2956 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 06, 2005 03:50 PM
MG...just because I do not reply to every thread and post does not mean I do not read. But I also do not read everything. But in the case of Magus....we talk off LL. to each other. I suppose you will make issue of that too. And you do not know the things Lotus said to us offline. You do not know the details of how she came at us in the guise of a friend and then freaked out on us! We have not posted those things at LL. and will not. So you do not have the whole picture. As to you calling me a victim/fake... I have been a victim but I am not a victim. Sorry if you think it is fake. I wish that were true. Why would you think that? I have many more thing I could tell that are worse than that if I wanted pity! But that stuff is no ones business! I am using my past experiences to help others. I NEEDED pity and someone to talk to way back then. NOT NOW. Now I want to help others not have to go through what I did. Now I want to be able to help those who do..have a person to talk to if such a thing happens to them! The thing I needed very long ago.. but did not get until years later. Why is my wanting to help so awful to you?  IP: Logged |
MAGUS of MUSIC Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: The Highlands,NY,usa Registered: Jun 2002
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posted December 06, 2005 06:40 PM
And you also dont know the potentials and tallents in Faytes chart.. Ive seen em both. Liked em both as charts alone.. Neither chart was a more interesting read then the other... This is stupid and insignificant of me too state- but if either was too be jelous of the other- [let alone from what I know from talking to them both],, its my opinion that from chart alone- Fayte wouldnt be the envyous one.. For one, Ive never seen a persons chart that clearly states they didnt even have to be born too Earth any longer- have a personal vice of envy, regardless of any other imerfections the individual may have still. IP: Logged |
MAGUS of MUSIC Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: The Highlands,NY,usa Registered: Jun 2002
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posted December 06, 2005 06:43 PM
and for the record,, Maybe I have been to quik to go with my compelings to jump in for my freinds here when I see someone geting rediculous, acusing, and offending.. I have doing my best to be more reserved when it comes to speaking for my freinds,, and except for when I know in my heart its called for ,will continue too.. What more can you ask of me. IP: Logged |
Mystic Gemini Knowflake Posts: 1381 From: New York City Registered: Jul 2005
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posted December 06, 2005 08:53 PM
heh heh------------------ Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra *´¨) ¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity Blind my eyes I cannot see Lost my soul but found my heart Again a time, when I shall start IP: Logged |
MAGUS of MUSIC Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: The Highlands,NY,usa Registered: Jun 2002
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posted December 06, 2005 09:49 PM
heh heh !>? ALright before I consider giving you a verbal dose of your own medicine in the futer when your realy asking for it MG- Are you mildly retarded, or clasified as some sorta other kinda mental handycap that I should just overlook and forgive you for ? Maybe your just a 10 or 12 year old girl posing as an adult woman ?? If either of these are the case, please do let me know .. I dont care to dissect and rip apart those who are no contest for me in the first place.,,and therefor not at all justly deserving of my harsher and more cruel tallents. IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 2956 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 07, 2005 11:32 AM
Very Well put My dear eternal friend Magus  And thank you for putting yourself in the line of fire again on my behalf! Much Love and Blessings to YOU Dear Magus!  IP: Logged |
Mystic Gemini Knowflake Posts: 1381 From: New York City Registered: Jul 2005
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posted December 07, 2005 12:09 PM
Hee Hee Huu HuuIP: Logged |
Ra Moderator Posts: 615 From: Registered: Jun 2005
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posted December 07, 2005 12:29 PM
I dont care to dissect and rip apart those who are no contest for me in the first place.,,and therefor not at all justly deserving of my harsher and more cruel tallents.and therefor not at all justly deserving of my harsher and more cruel tallents. my harsher and more cruel tallents. cruel tallents. I am trying very much to bite my tongue. Think about those statements. This is not about chivalry, Fayte. I wish I had the time (I almost have the inclination) to discover for myself what your "cruel talents" are. Magus, what has happened to you? What have you become? Are you not above this? Children, please!  IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 2956 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 07, 2005 01:48 PM
Magus does get very wound up and brutally blunt and yes..rather crude and rude sounding. I agree with you on that! BUT.... Consider what insulting verbage he is responding to.... I do not think he means to be so brash...but he is being honest and responding with an eye for an eye. And he does defend in from his heart. It is his way to just say what is on his mind without holding back. Personally I appreciate that. But I do see how it would be a dangerous thing if this was the way everyone acted...especially in response to angry outbursts and stupidity. Magus... This is not a good thing for public discourse. It does not make you appear strong and noble except to those who understand you and the motives and heart behind your intensity!Magus...you will only bring down more outrage to your well meant words...but very blunt..and rashly brash words... Even you have admitted that you are usually totally unconcerned about restraint in your words and your open expressings of them. And while we who love and understand you will remain your loyal friends..others will not stop seeing you.. as not a man of pure hearted honor... but a brute and often yes..very charming rogue. Talk freely yes! But try to hold back on sounding so threatening and vengeful to people who are obviously acting immature and foolish and are going out of their way to yank your chain. I know there is a chance that you may get upset with me here. I hope you do not..but instead see what I am saying and understand why. But I do not like seeing you bring more anger and chidings upon yourself. I thank you again Magus.  But this time I have to at least say I see Ra's point of view. I do not agree with him completely... for I know that your intent and intentions to defend were honorably meant!!! I would prefer your tongue be sharp...but at certain places and times...with certain folks...and showing your anger and disgust in too raw a fashion undermines the results you may actually be trying to achieve. Even in your defending..do not go too far because the person making the nasty remarks will just try to outdo you in that arena and it will end up becoming a foul mouthed vile exchange of force of wills and one up manship to bring the other down or put them in their place... But no one is the victor there my friend. In the end you both lose. They have their friends... And You have yours... And after expending so much energy in the battle of wills... The only thing that is stronger is the gulf between them and a deeper hatred and disgust of the other. I am so freaking tired of all this craziness! I am trying my damndest to be diplomatic...but all over LL. there has been such nonsense going on. Yes...Magus...I too get angry and lose my tongue too. We both need to learn when the battle is never going to be won and pull back. Respond with nothing but a thumbs down..or a frown...or whatever icon/smilie...and leave it at that if you can. Rant over..  !! IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 2956 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 07, 2005 01:53 PM
Quote: From Magus: I dont care to dissect and rip apart those who are no contest for me in the first place.,,and therefor not at all justly deserving of my harsher and more cruel tallents.I see here Magus was saying that MG and her insults and taunts were and are not worth him going toe to toe with her. I understand what he meant. And that he understands she is too immature to deserve his full force of anger and not worth it. But I can see how people that do not know him would take it a different way. Ok..second rant over...  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 3893 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted December 07, 2005 02:10 PM
I think you were perfectly diplomatic, and have reason to believe Magus wouldn't even consider holding it against you. He sees the bigger picture more than he lets on.IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 2956 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 07, 2005 02:42 PM
Thanks AG  Magus..Please Know that I do care and love you my friend!  IP: Logged |
MAGUS of MUSIC Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: The Highlands,NY,usa Registered: Jun 2002
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posted December 07, 2005 06:52 PM
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MAGUS of MUSIC Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: The Highlands,NY,usa Registered: Jun 2002
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posted December 07, 2005 06:52 PM
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MAGUS of MUSIC Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: The Highlands,NY,usa Registered: Jun 2002
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posted December 07, 2005 06:58 PM
and for another record- I still dont see a problem with me facing my own vices and "inner demons", and being aware I do have a tallent [atleast compared ot otherrs atempts] for verbaly bringing an other asking for it, too their knees. And the universe does indeed intentionaly create some souls to carry out just this purpose.. Theres far more too the Universe, and its codes then just " love and light, love and light". Sometimes she creates her own weapons- if not just for truths protection. [watch , now someones gona come in with a " so magus, now you think the universe has ordained you her instrument of justice do you, oooh get over your self"] IP: Logged |
Petron Knowflake Posts: 1486 From: Paradise Registered: Mar 2004
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posted December 07, 2005 07:36 PM
i thot yoo wear hoping she wuz a 10 yeer old handikapt gurl so then yoo cood take hur in a fistfight?IP: Logged |
MAGUS of MUSIC Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: The Highlands,NY,usa Registered: Jun 2002
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posted December 07, 2005 07:45 PM
Thats cute PookyIP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 2462 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted December 08, 2005 01:52 AM
*makes nasal sound* NOT laughing.really.  IP: Logged |
Ra Moderator Posts: 615 From: Registered: Jun 2005
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posted December 08, 2005 04:13 AM
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Ra Moderator Posts: 615 From: Registered: Jun 2005
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posted December 08, 2005 04:17 AM
Fayte, isn't it getting a bit difficult to keep defending this? I don't know what is going on in his life, but it has him very much off balance. IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 2956 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 08, 2005 08:18 AM
Ra.. I am torn between not making waves and being a defender of free speech. As for Magus being unbalanced... No.. I do not believe that! Would I take him on a mission of diplomacy? NO... But if I were needing/wanting a staunch defender who would lay his own life on the line and with great passion fight and speak his mind with unrestraint.... I would choose Magus! The only thing I see is that he leaps before he looks...and will not take back what he said or soften his response. But that is because often wether you agree or not..he is right or at least is justified in his responses. But...yes..a little honey added to the vinegar would often be more effective. But to get rid of the vinegar would be an act of being false. While his is not a very diplomatic stance... he does not proclaim himself a diplomat! Perhaps someday he will find this form of defending within him. It is most certainly there! But for now he is being true to his passionate nature. In time he may find ways to be even more passionate and effective by the way of clever and precision usuages of diplomacy. But he is young. I was totally tactless and even more abrasive and brash at his age. I proudly took it as being totally honest! Oh for sure..it was! Bu at what cost? I have since(and am still learning!) endeavored to be totally honest and state my opinions without being so brash. It is NOT an easy thing to do when one's passions for free speech and total honesty is so strong a thing for them to express. Magus must find his way...He will. But for now...like him..hate him..Love him... he is himself.  IP: Logged |
MAGUS of MUSIC Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: The Highlands,NY,usa Registered: Jun 2002
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posted December 08, 2005 07:45 PM
Thank you again Fayte,, you are right,, and do know me well Woman. Yes,, I can be more diplomatic,, its actualy more my original nature then speaking exactly whats on my mind at any given time.. And yes - it would be wiser of me to learn to connect voiceing my opinions and beleifs, in manners that are less offensive. Ra- if you would truly like to know more of an honest explanation as too why I havent been in the mood to be more of my older diplomatic self lately- feel free to e-mail me, and I will share such a thing with oyu in confidentuality. Otherwise,, any changes you have noticed in me,,,, would be best left unsaid here.. And apreciated. IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 2956 From: Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 08, 2005 08:05 PM
Magus!  You are still marvelous to me!  IP: Logged |
MAGUS of MUSIC Knowflake Posts: 1368 From: The Highlands,NY,usa Registered: Jun 2002
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posted December 09, 2005 12:14 AM
As you to me FabulousIP: Logged |