posted December 17, 2005 10:31 AM         

J. M. Barrie ~ Peter Pan

posted December 17, 2005 10:45 AM         

i was in the land of the tree people, under the great oaks, watching the rosetta spoonbills hunting for food in the lake, when i began to sense a presence. i heard a voice saying my name is "Gothica Oak". it whispered in the wind. i looked around and no one was there. i had been meditating on how to honor 11/11.

"i said my name is Gothica Oak" it repeated. the voice was ancient and stronger when he spoke again. i whirled around and the giant oak tree was now animated with its branches and its leaves would move.

"do not be startled, i have been waiting for you," he said.

"well i am a little startled. i thought i was alone" i said.

"no one is ever alone. that in itself is an illusion."

"you are right, the mysteries of life are simple, but concealed to the normal person, who sees what he is trained to see." i agreed.

"that is why i have been waiting to be with you. i have observed you as you come here each day, meditating in nature," Gothica Oak replied.

"once there was a civilization known by the name of Lady Lemuria. all of life's essence was love. this was the time when the Goddess was loved and respected and not feared. what has been forgotten was that in this time the God and Goddess walked hand in hand and all life was in balance with Source."

"Nature was a cosmic dance of life. there was no competition or differences among the kingdoms. the earth was surrounded by water, and all energies that flowed into her were filtered through the great oceans, above her, creating rainbows of light. there was no disease or suffering," Gothica Oak exclaimed.

"do you know that it was only until humans forgot that they were spirit beings that suffering and disease became a reality? that too is when the Goddess became forgotten and the the God became feared, rather than loved."

"it sounds as if this is where the stories of paradise come from," i said.

"it is so. you and many other people who are living today were a part of this time."

"Earth mother now is very ill. she is in a time of healing herself. the tree nations are being slaughtered by unconsciousness. there are too few of the ancient trees left to heal her. we fear that much of life will perish. that is why i wish to share this understanding with you, so that others will remember," he said.

"we want you to pay close attention to the LL in the name Lady Lemuria, does it remind you of something?"

"yes, it reminds me of the 11/11 doorway."

"it is a portal to another dimension, a cosmic doorway," said Gothica Oak."

"for the last 18 years or so we have been experiencing portals to other dimensions," i said.

"yes, we have watched. this 11/11 doorway is a portal to the great mother; it was reopened 11-11-1918, Armistice Day, the end of WWI. the intention was that by reopening this portal of 11/11, and honoring the great mother, that this would be the end of the war."

"but as you can see from history, it did not happen."

"have you heard of the Lady of Fatima; she appeared from may 13, 1917 to october 13, 1917. pay attention to the number 13."

"you have been taught that the number 13 is evil; instead it is a symbol of the divine feminine, which was concealed from humanity."

"the Lady of Fatima appeared to balance the male/female energies, so that love could flourish again," he explained, "but even with her appearing, her message was distorted, and the truth not revealed."

"11:11 has been an important portal for thousands of years. the 11:11 is an insertion point for the greater Reality to enter the present moment. this 11:11 gateway aligns itself with a super galactic center, a point of creation, which defines your spiritual origin. 11:11 is an activation sequence."

"each time that you see 1111 or 11/11 it is an invitation to you that you are invited to walk through a doorway."

"this 11/11 is to create the Blueprint of Universal Harmony and Unconditional Love for all."

"there have been many opportunities for humanity to to awaken, but fear has taught them for so long that people have forgotten to trust in Source. instead they look outside of themselves and follow others who teach fear."

"allow the energy of 11/11 to flow forth in creating love. when humanity remembers to love instead of fear and hate, your Earth will heal. will it ever be like it was in the ancient time of Lady Lemuria? it is not written what will happen to life here."

"but with each one of you who spends time loving the earth each day, new life is generated."

"when you walk throught the portal of 11:11, do so with the intention of creating love."

the wind began to blow and the leaves began to be released in the wind. and the Great Spirit went back into the oak.

by dorothea cangelosi
indigo sun magazine
vol 13 issue 8, nov 2005
www.indigosun.com

posted December 17, 2005 12:47 PM         

We're fearless and strong, protectors of life,

Hidden in shadows we conquer all strife.

We come from the old ones, our lineage secure

We rise from the ashes, we always endure.

It's time you remembered that we were here first,

We healed your sick yet suffered your worst.

From time immemorial we've woven our lore,

We conjure and cast and whisper and pray,

so you can enjoy your freedom each day.

We've long been your army, protecting your back

When you are in trouble, in secret we act.

Mother's watching, she hasn't missed much

She's gathered her magick and given the touch

To witches and pagans and druids and such.

The times are a changing, and one thing is clear.

The lord and the lady have now reappeared.

Two pillars, three points, four quarters extend.

Five is the number of magickal blend.

By moon and by sun, fire and by stars

realize this day, that the power is ours.

from http://groups.msn.com/MysticForestofProtection

posted December 17, 2005 01:40 PM         

Its name derives from the Anglo-Saxon word,. ac,. but in Irish the word is 'daur', and in Welsh 'dar' or 'derw' probably cognate with the Greek, 'drus' Same scholars consider this the origin of the term 'Druid", since Druids have always been associated with sacred groves and particularly oak forests. Dense forests of oak once covered most of Northern Europe in those days, so it is not surprising to find this tree held most sacred by people who "live in oak forests, used oak timber for building, oak sticks for fuel, and oak acorns for food and fodder." (1) Combined with the Indo-European root "wid": to know, "Druid" may have referred to those with "knowledge of the oak," the "Wise Ones of the Oakwood". The Sanskrit word, "Duir", gave rise both to the word for oak and the English word "door", which suggests that this tree stands as an opening into greater wisdom, perhaps an entryway into the otherworld itself.

We first learn about the oak as sacred to the Druids in the well-known passage from the writings of Pliny, who lived in Gaul during the 1st century CE. He writes that the Druids performed all their religious rites in oak-groves, where they gathered mistletoe from the trees with a golden sickle. Strabo also describes three Galatian tribes (Celts living in Asia Minor) as holding their councils at a place called, "Drunemeton", the "oak grove sanctuary". The 2nd century Maximus of Tyre, describes the Celts as worshipping Zeus-- probably referring to the Romano-Celtic god of thunder, Taranis- as a tall oak tree, Elsewhere we learn that the Druids of Gaul ate acorns as a way of divining the future. Another Roman writer referred to them as "Dryads" whom he defined as "those who delight in the oaks".

Under Christianity, large oaks often became designated as "Holy Oaks", giving rise to place-names such as Holy Oakes in Leicestershire and Cressage in Shropshire, originally Cristesache, or Christ's Oak. Many English towns today have areas called "Gospel Oak", larking back to the time when an oak marked a parish boundary. Every spring at Rogation-tide, parishioners would circle the boundaries in the ceremony known as 'bearing the bounds" and assemble to hear the gospel read beneath the tree.

Oak-trees have always been regarded as great protectors and guardians of the virtuous. When King Charles II was fleeing from Roundheads after the battle at Worcester, he took refuge in the branches of a great oak, and after his Restoration on May 29th, 1660, this day -also his birthday - was henceforth celebrated as "Royal Oak Day", when loyal subjects wore oak-apples, twigs and leaves in their buttonholes and caps, and decorated their horses with garlands of oak. The immense popularity of this day points very clearly to a pagan origin of this custom, probably connected with the rites of May Day that in many places had been prohibited in the Puritan years because of its sexual associations. As late as the beginning of the 20th century, a Herefordshire resident explained, "The 29th of May was our real May Day in Bromyard. You'd see maypoles all the way down Sheep Street decorated with oak boughs and flowers, and people dancing round them, all wearing oak leaves."

posted December 17, 2005 01:46 PM         

This is to Mother You

This is to mother you
To comfort you and get you through
Through when your nights are lonely
Through when your dreams are only blue
This is to mother you

This is to be with you
To hold you and to kiss you too
For when you need me I will do
What your own mother didn't do
Which is to mother you

All the pain that you have known
All the violence in your soul
All the 'wrong' things you have done
I will take from you when I come

All mistakes made in distress
All your unhappiness
I will take away with my kiss, yes
I will give you tenderness

For child I am so glad I've found you
Although my arms have always been around you
Sweet bird although you did not see me
I saw you

And I'm here to mother you
To comfort you and get you through
Through when your nights are lonely
Through when your dreams are only blue
This is to mother you

posted December 17, 2005 01:55 PM         

weird!, my daughter had a dream last week
and in the dream, when she could hear acorns
falling in the attic
it always meant a pack of wolves was running towards the house, and when she heard the acorns fall, she had to hurry, and run, and lock the doors, and check the windows
and then pray and wait, and that is when she would wake-up, and she was frightened

I assured her, that every time she would BE safe, God is always there

and the

OAK
712 = 10 yippee!

posted December 18, 2005 10:40 AM         

here's a chant your daughter
can say to protect and soothe
her ~

goddess light, goddess bright
send your angels' guardian might
angels above me
angels below me
angels surround me
keeping me safe
both day and night.

love to you and your
brave daughter lotus.

posted December 19, 2005 06:21 PM         

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In this world we’re just beginning
To understand the miracle of living

posted December 19, 2005 06:25 PM         

Diya ~ the universe is activating your
energy and nudging you on to greater
awareness. let the energy flow through you
and be easy on yourself.

posted December 19, 2005 11:05 PM         

i LOVE that you felt fairy magic when your
baby was born....i believe fairies were
present and were whispering their magic in
your ear about your babe being blessed with
fairy dust.

all babies are special, especially the ones
with whom we connect personally and who
bring us their own super-natural energy...
like your babe did for you, and
mine did for me.

love to you...salome

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In this world we’re just beginning
To understand the miracle of living

posted December 20, 2005 07:44 PM         

dancing the spiral we sing unaware
of fairy night wings, our songs fill the air
making a circle of magic and light
watched silently by the fey of the night

our hearts full of love and our arms opened wide
we hold the key to the fairies delight
the songs in our hearts purer than the air
the words of our wisdom we bring forth to share

our songs in the night as we dance round the flame
the fairy night songs are never the same
the words from our lips we sing for the night
impart to the fey our hearts truest sight

the sounds of the forest in sweet harmony
we give the gift of our song to the fairree

dancing the spiral, we sing unaware
of fairy night wings, our songs fill the air

our songs in the night as we dance round the flame
the fairy night songs are never the same
the words from our lips as we sing for the night
impart to the fey our hearts truest sight

from the album
Fairy Heart Magic

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In this world we’re just beginning
To understand the miracle of living

posted December 20, 2005 08:11 PM         

Danaan, Tuatha Dé : Literally, “the people of the goddess Dana / Danu.” The gods and goddesses of the pre-Christian Irish who inhabited the land before the coming of the Milesian Gaels. Their history is chronicled in the Leabhar Gabhala Erenn (’Book of Invasions’) and other ancient texts, as well as in oral folktales passed from generation to generation. When Christian monks started to write down the sagas, these gods and goddesses were demoted into heroes and heroines, although much remains to demonstrate their god-like abilities. Under their leader, Nuada of the Silver Hand, the Dé Danaan came to Ireland from an unknown northern country where they had four fabulous cities - Falias, Gorias, Finias, and Murias. In these great places they studied with learned sages. They became masters of the arts and sciences, both magical and mundane until they advanced to the point where they embodied the supernatural. They could go back and forth between the worlds at will, conjure weather, shape-shift, and they attained the utmost skills in poetry, magic, music, art, and weaponry. From each of the four cities the Tuatha Dé Danaan brought with them magical treasures : the Dagda’s Cauldron (’Undry’), the magical Spear of Lugh, the Stone of Fal (Lia Fáil, Stone of Destiny - the Lia Fáil would roar its approval when a rightful leader was elected to take leadership), and the Sword of Nuada (Cliamh Solais, for it was the Sword of Light). They defeated the FirBolg (”bag men”) and then overcame the Fomorii.

This is not to say that they were without vice. All human passion was experienced by them. Eventually, they were overcome by the Milesian Gaels, with whom in some texts they are also related and are regarded as the Ancestors of the Gaels. The Milesians drove them underground. The gods and goddesses of the Dé Danaan were common to all Celtic peoples : their names are cognate with many deities who appear in the Welsh myths. As they were pushed underground, they were demoted in the eyes of the people and became Faeries.

posted December 20, 2005 08:22 PM         

Vedic Origins of the Europeans: The Danavas, Children of Danu

Note: This article shows how the Proto-European Aryans, like the Celts, were originally a Vedic people called the Danavas or Sudanavas (good Danavas) connected to Vedic kings, sages and yogis.

Many ancient European peoples, particularly the Celts and Germans, regarded themselves as children of Danu, with Danu meaning the Mother Goddess, who was also, like Sarasvati in the Rig Veda, a river Goddess. The Celts called themselves “Tuatha De Danaan”, while the Germans had a similar name. Ancient European river names like the Danube and various rivers called Don in Russia, Scotland, England and France reflect this, as do place names like Den-mark (Danava-Marga), to mention but a few. The Danube which flows to the Black Sea is their most important river and could reflect their eastern origins.

In fact, the term Danu or Danava (the plural of Danu) appears to form the substratum of Indo-European identity at the base of the Hellenic, Illyro-Venetic, Italo-Celtic, Germanic and Balto-Slavic elements. The northern Greeks were also called Danuni. Therefore, the European Aryans could probably all be called Danavas.

According to Roman sources, Tacitus in his Annals and Histories, the Germans claimed to be descendants of the Mannus, the son of Tuisto. Tuisto relates to Vedic Tvashtar, the Vedic father-creator Sky God, who is also a name for the father of Manu (RV X.17.1-2). This makes the Rig Vedic people also descendants of Manu, the son of Tvashtar.

In the Rig Veda, Tvashtar appears as the father of Indra, who fashions his thunderbolt (vajra) for him (RV X.48.3). Yet Indra is sometimes at odds with Tvashtar because he is compelled to surpass him (RV III.48.3-4). Elsewhere Tvashtar’s son is Vishvarupa or Vritra, whom Indra kills, cutting off his three heads (RV X.8.8-9), (TS II.4.12, II.5.1). Indra slays the dragon, Vritra, who lays at the foot of the mountain withholding the waters, and releases the seven rivers to flow into the sea. In several instances, Vritra is called Danava, the son of the Goddess Danu who is connected to the sea (RV I.32.9; II.11.10; III.30.8; V.30.4; V.32).

In the Brahmanas Vishvarupa/Vritra is the son of Danu and Danayu, the names of his mother and father (SB I.6.3.1, 8, 9). Clearly Vritra is Vishvarupa, the son of the God Tvashtar and the Goddess Danu. Danava also means a serpent or a dragon (RV V.32.1-2), which is not only a symbol of wisdom but of power and both Vedic and ancient European lore have their good and bad dragons or serpents.

In this curious story both Indra and Vritra appear ultimately as brothers because both are sons of Tvashtar. We must also note that Tvashtar fashions the thunderbolt for Indra to slay Vritra (RV I.88.5). Indra and Vritra represent the forces of expansion and contraction or the dualities inherent in each one of us. They are both inherent in Tvashtar and represent the two sides of the Creator or of creation as knowledge and ignorance. As Vritra is also the son of Tvashtar and Danu, Indra must ultimately be a son of Danu as well. Both the Vedic Aryans and the Proto-European Aryans are sons of Tvashtar, who was sometimes not the supreme God but a demiurge that they must go beyond.

The Danavas in the Puranas (VaP II.7) are the sons of the Rishi Kashyapa, who there assumes the role of Tvashtar as the main father creator. Kashyapa is a great rishi connected to the Himalayas. He is the eighth or central Aditya (Sun God) that does not leave Mount Meru (Taittiriya Aranyaka I.7.20), the fabled world mountain. Kashyapa is associated with Kashmir (Kashyapa Mira or Kashyapa’s lake) and other Himalayan regions (the Vedic lands of Sharyanavat and Arjika, RV IX.113.1-2), which connects the Danavas to the northwest. The Caspian Sea may be named after him as well. The Proto-Europeans, therefore, are the sons of Tvashtar or Kashyapa and Danu, through their son Manu. They are both Manavas and Danavas, as also Aryas.

In the Rig Veda, Danu like Dasyu refers to inimical people and is generally a term of denigration (RV I.32.9; III.30.8; V.30.4; V.32.1, 4, 7; X.120.6). The Danavas or descendants of Danu are generally enemies of the Vedic people and their Gods. Therefore, just as the Deva-Asura or Arya-Dasyu split is reflected in the split between the Vedic Hindus and the Persians, one can propose that the Deva-Danava split reflects another division in the Vedic people, including that between the Proto-Indian Aryans and the Proto-European Aryans. In this process the term Danu was adopted by the Proto-Europeans and became denigrated by later Vedic people.

We should also remember that in the Puranas (VaP II.7), as in the Vedas the term Danavas refer to a broad group of peoples, many inimical, but others friendly, as well as various mythical demons. In the Rig Veda, the Danavas are called amanusha or unhuman (RV II.11.10) as opposed to human, Manusha. The Europeans had similar negative beings like the Greek Titans or Celtic Formorii who correspond more to the mythical side of the Danavas as powers of darkness, the underworld or the undersea region like the Vedic Asuras and Rakshasas. Such mythical Danavas can hardly be reduced to the Proto-European Aryans or to any single group of people.

The Celtic scholar Peter Ellis notes, “Irish epic contains many episodes of the struggle between the Children of Domnu, representing darkness and evil, and the Children of Danu, representing light and good. Moreover, the Children of Domnu are never completely overcome or eradicated from the world. Symbolically, they are the world. The conflict is between the ‘waters of heaven’ and the ‘world.’” The same thing could be said of the Vedic wars of Devas and Danavas or the Puranic/Brahmana wars of Devas and Asuras.

The Good Danavas (Sudanavas)

The Maruts in the Puranas (VaP II.6.90-135) are called the sons of Diti, a wife of Kashyapa, who is sometimes equated with Danu. Her children are called the Daityas which term we have found also connected to the Persians, as the name of the river in their original homeland (Vendidad Fargard I.3). While meant to be enemies of Indra, the Maruts came to be his companions and were great Gods in their own right, often referring to the Vedic rishis and yogis. As wind Gods they had control of Prana and other siddhis (occult powers). They are also the sons of Rudra-Shiva called Rudras, much like the Shaivite Yogis of later times. They were great sages (RV VI.49.11), men (manava) with tongues of fire and eyes of the Sun (RV I.89.7). They were free to travel all over the world and were not obstructed by mountains, rivers or seas (RV V.54.9; V.55.9).

The Rig Veda contains many instances where Danu has a positive meaning indicating abundance or even standing for divine in general. Danucitra, meaning the richness of light, occurs a few times (RV I.174.7; V.59.8). The Maruts are called Jira-danu or plural Jira-danava or quick to give or perhaps fast Danus or fast Gods (RV V.54.9). This term Jiradanu occurs elsewhere as the gift of the Maruts in the last line of most of the hymns of Agastya (RV I.165-169, 171-178, 180-186, 189, 190). Mitra and Varuna are said to be Sripra-danu or easy to give and their many gifts, danuni, are praised (RV VIII.25.5-6). The Ashvins are called lords of Danuna, Danunaspati (RV VIII.8.16). Soma is also called Danuda and Danupinva, giving Danu or overflowing with Danu (RV IX.97.23), connecting Danu with water or with rivers.

The Maruts are typically called Sudanavas, good to give or good (Su) Danus (RV I.85.10; I.172.1-3; II.34.8; V.41.16; V.52.5; V.53.6; VI.66.5; VIII.20.18, 23). Similarly, the Vishvedevas or universal gods are called Sudanavas (RV VIII.83.6, 8, 9), as are the Adityas (RV VIII.67.16), the Ashvins (RV I.117.10, 24) and Vishnu (RV VIII.24.12). The term also occurs in a hymn to Sarasavati (RV VII.96.4), where Sarasvati is called the friend or companion of the Maruts (Marutsakha; RV 96.2). Most importantly, there is a Goddess called Sudanu Devi (RV V.41.18), which is probably another name for the mother of the Maruts. The Maruts in particular or the Gods in general would therefore be the sons of Sudanu or Sudanavas. This suggests that perhaps Danu, like Asura, was earlier a positive word and meant divine. There was not only a bad Danu but a good or Sudanu. In the Rig Veda the references to the Sudanavas are much more than those to Danava as an inimical term.

The Maruts are called Sumaya (RV I.88.1), having a good (Su) or divine power of Maya, which stands for magical power, or Mayina (RV V.58.2), possessed of Maya power. Danu is probably, in some respects, a synonym of Maya, a power of abundance but also of illusion. Like the root Ma, the root Da means “to divide” or “to measure”. Maya is the power of the Danavas (RV II.11.10). The Danavas, particularly Ahi-Vritra, are portrayed as serpents (RV V.32.8), particularly the serpent who dwells at the foot of the mountain holding back the heavenly waters, whom Indra must slay in order to release the waters. Maya itself is the serpent power.

The Maruts as wind gods are powers of lightning, which in Vedic as in most ancient thought was considered to be a serpent or a dragon. The Maruts are the good serpents, shining bright like serpents (RV I.171.2). The Maruts help Indra in slaying Vritra and are his main friends and companions. Indra is called Marutvan, or possessed of the Maruts. Their leader is Vishnu (RV V.87), who is called Evaya-Marut. With Rudra (Shiva) as their father and Prishni (Shakti) as their mother, they reflect all the Gods of later Hinduism. As Shiva’s sons they are connected with Skanda, Ganesha and Hanuman.

Perhaps these Sudanavas or good Danus are the Maruts, who in their travels guided and led many peoples including the Celts and other European followers of Danu. As the sons of Rudra, we note various Rudra like figures such as Cernunos among the Celts, who like Rudra is the lord of the animals and is portrayed in a yoga posture, as on the Gundestrop Cauldron. If the Maruts were responsible for spreading Vedic culture, as I have proposed, they could have called their children, the children of Danu, in a positive sense. We could also argue that the Sudanavas were the Maruts, Druids and other Rishi classes, while the peoples they ruled over, particularly the unruly Kshatriyas or warrior classes could become Danavas in the negative sense when they refused to accept spiritual guidance.

We know from both Celtic and Vedic texts that the early Aryans, like other ancient people, were always fighting with each other in various local conflicts, particularly for supremacy in their particular region. This led to various divisions and migrations through the centuries, which we cannot always take in a major way, just as the warring princes of India or Ireland remained part of the same culture and continued to intermarry with one another. Therefore, whatever early conflict might have existed between the Proto-European Aryans and those in the interior of India, was just part of various clashes between the different princely families that occurred within these same groups as well. It was forgotten over time.

The European Aryans had Gods like Zeus, Thor and Jupiter that serve as the counterparts of Indra as the God of heaven, the God of the rains, the thunderbolt and the lightning. Therefore, we cannot read the divide between the Rig Vedic Aryans and the Danavas as a rejection of the God Indra by the Proto-Europeans. In addition, the Proto-European Aryans continue to use the term Deva as divine as in Latin Deus and Greek Theos, unlike the Persians who make Asura mean divine and Deva mean demon. They also know Manu, which the Persians seem to have forgotten and only mention Yima (Yama). Unlike the Persians, who developed an aniconic (anti-image) and almost monotheistic tradition, the Proto-European Aryans maintained a pluralistic tradition, using images, and worshipping many Gods and Goddesses, like the Vedic. This suggests that their division from the Rig Vedic people occurred long before that of the Persians or Iranians, and that they took a larger and older form of the Vedic religion with them.

Vedic Origins : Children of Danu

Migrations Out of India or Central Asia

We have noted Danu or Danava as a term for an inimical people or even an anti-god, like Deva and Asura, probably reflects some split in the Aryan peoples. This could be the conflict the Purus, the main Rig Vedic people located on the Sarasvati river near Delhi, and the Druhyus, who were located in the northwest by Afganistan, who fought quite early in the Rig Vedic period.

Certainly we can only equate the Proto-Europeans with the northwest of India or greater India that extends into Afghanistan and Central Asia. If they can be connected to any group among the five Vedic peoples it must be the Druhyus.

However, we do find Druhyu kingdoms continuing for some time in India and giving names to regions like Gandhara (Afghanistan) and Aratta (Panjab) connected more with Iranian or Scythian people. Yet, we do note a connection between the Scythians and the Celts, whose Druid priests connect themselves with the Scythians at an early period. The Scythians also maintained a trade from India to Europe that continued for many centuries. In this regard the Proto-Europeans could have been a derivation of Aryan India by migration, cultural diffusion, or what is more likely, a combination of both.

Though the Druhyus and Proto-Europeans may be connected, it is difficult to confirm particularly as the Europeans were a very different ethnic type (Nordic and Alpine) than most of the Indians and Iranians, who were of the Mediterranean branch of the Caucasian race. T

However, it is possible that European ethnic types were living in ancient Afghanistan or Central Asia, even Kashmir, where we do find some of these types even today. The evidence of the Tokharians suggests this. The Tokharians (Tusharas) were a people speaking an Indo-European language closer to the European (a kentum-based language), and also demonstrate Nordic or Alpine, blond and red-haired ethnic traits. They lived in the Tarim Basin of western China that dominated the region to the Muslim invasion up to the eighth century AD, by which time they had become Buddhists. They may be related to the European featured mummies found in that area dating back to 1500 BCE7. They were also present in Western China around Langchou in the early centuries BCE. The Tokharian language is possibly related to the Celtic and Italic branches, just as their physical features resemble northern Europeans. The Tarim Basin region was later regarded as the land of the Uttara Kurus and as a land of the gods. So such groups were not always censured as barbarians at the borders but were sometimes honored as highly advanced and spiritual.

The evidence does not show an Aryan invasion/migration into India in ancient times, certainly not after the Harappan era (c. 3000 BCE) and probably not before. No genetic or skeletal or other hard evidence has been found to prove this. Similarly, we do not find evidence of migration of interior Indic peoples West, the dark-skinned people that were prominent on the subcontinent to the northwest. But if the same ethnic types as the Europeans were present in Western China, Afghanistan or in northwest Iran, like the Fergana Valley (Sogdia), such a migration west would be possible, particularly given their familiarity with horses. In this case the commonality of Indo-European languages would not rest upon a common ethnicity with the interior Indo-Aryans but on a common ethnicity with peripheral Aryans on the northwest of India.

It is also possible that the European people derived their Aryan culture from the influence of Vedic peoples, probably mainly Druhyus but also Scythians (who might themselves be Druhyus), who migrated to Central Asia and brought their culture to larger groups of Europeans already living in Europe and Central Asia. The Europeans could have picked up an Aryan influence indirectly from the contact with various rishis, princes or merchants, without any significant genetic or familial linkage with Indic peoples. Or some combination may have existed. Such peoples with more Vedic cultures like the Celts could derive mainly from migration, while those others like the Germans might derive mainly from cultural diffusion. In any case, various means of Aryanization existed that can explain the spread of Vedic culture from the Himalayas to Europe, of which actual migration of people from the interior of India need not be the only or even primary factor.

We do note the names of rivers like the Don, Dneiper, Dneister, Donets and Danube to the north of the Black are largely cognate with Danu. This could reflect such a movement of peoples from West or Central Asia, including migrants originally from regions of greater India and Iran. At the end of the Ice Age, as Europe became warmer, it became a suitable land for agriculture. This would have made it a desirable place of migration for people from the east and the south which were drying up.

For More Information:

Dr. David Frawley (Pandit Vamadeva Shastri),
American Institute of Vedic Studies
PO Box 8357, Santa Fe NM 87504-8357
Ph: 505-983-9385, Fax: 505-982-5807 http://www.vedanet.com/

http://dedanaan.com/vedic-origins-children-of-danu/1/

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In this world we’re just beginning
To understand the miracle of living

posted January 11, 2006 04:07 PM         

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`Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.'
~Lewis Carroll

posted January 27, 2006 04:16 PM         

What Must a Fairy's Dream Be?

What must a Fairy's dream be,
Who drinks of the morning dew?
Would she think to fly till she reach'd the sky
And bathe in its lakes of blue
Or gather bright pearls from the depths of the sea --
What must the dream of a fairy be?

What must a Fairy's dream be,
Who sleeps when the Mermaid sings?
Would she rob the night of her jewels bright,
To spangle her silv'ry wings?
Rock'd on the wind 'bove the land and the sea,
What can the dream of a Fairy be?

What must a Fairy's dream be
When storms in their anger cry?
Would she madly chase the winds embrace,
The lightning gleaming by,
Or seize on its flash with a child-like glee,
What must the dream of a Fairy be?

What must a Fairy's dream be
When mid-summer breezes play?
Would she proudly sail on the perfum'd gale
To welcome the dawn of day?
I know that her visions are sportive and free, --
What must the dreams of a Fairy be?

~Stephen Collins Foster

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neither be cynical about love,
For in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
It is as perennial as the grass.

posted January 28, 2006 04:58 AM         

What a lovely thread

I live in the land of the fairies and little people.....we have fairies in our garden and we have fairy rings/fairy forts. I was invited into one once...you have to be careful and wait for the fairies to ask...it was amazing...and I never felt the same after that !!!

Long live the fairies !!

posted January 30, 2006 03:55 PM         

This is random, but I think that I remember that name from a very cool movie... Willow!!! Am I right?

P.S. The 11/11 doorway is my favorite! Just love that!

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`Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.'
~Lewis Carroll