posted March 03, 2006 05:44 PM         

I woke up the next morning with a lump on my neck. In the night at some point a spider had bitten me! That bite got bigger and bigger and since the bite was right on a tendon in my neck, over the next few days it prevented me from moving my neck around. It lasted for about two weeks before it finally went away.

So then I felt even worse because I felt as though I had gotten my just desserts for killing the spiders and one of them had taken retribution.

I know this story sounds crazy. But to further explain: I moved away from that house last year and when I moved into my current place, over the course of the warmer seasons spiders began building webs around my front door. Not one other person on my street had any spiders around their house, but there was a world of spiders living all around the entrance to my house.

This time I decided (very wisely) to not touch one little leg. Plus I felt that there was some inherent message here that I was supposed to acknowledge. I learned that spiders are representative of creative energy so I am thinking that I vaccumed all that energy up before...kind of ironic for me, personally.

I still have spiders that come and sit next to me when I work at my computer at home. There is usually just one or two of them and they just hang with me.

Any comments? (except from those who are mad at me for vaccuming them up - I already feel bad about that )

Anyone know of any other spider theories that I might not be privy to?

Thanks,

Love

posted March 04, 2006 12:43 PM         

Up until a few years ago, I was having spider dreams solid for a year. I dreamt that a few "big" spiders (won't say how big.. don't want to give nightmares to knowflakes that have fears!) were spinning webs around my bed, attached to the wall above my headboard. When I mentioned this to a family friend who happens to be a seer, she told me that the spiders for me represent me protecting myself from some big fear. *shrug* Don't know what it was that I feared, but the dreams are gone...so I can't complain.

I love having spiders around the house! I think I've mentioned before on a thread here that my grandmother used to sprinkle water drops on her counter in front of her kitchen greenhouse window for the spiders in her plants everyday...and when she would be out of town, she would ask me to "water the spiders". Interesting that the spiders expected the water...and would come out and drink from the drops in front of me.

Angela

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posted March 05, 2006 02:48 AM         

What do you think the message is for you?

posted March 05, 2006 03:57 AM         

I think it has to do with creativity for me...my Saturn is in Leo and I am in the middle of my Saturn Return (and boy does it blow) and from what I have read about Leo in Saturn during a Return is that alot of it has to do with creativity. I guess I am still figuring out what that means for me.

posted March 05, 2006 04:13 AM         

I was just posting about how Saturn is returning to me on the Numerology thread.

It's a time for new beginnings! I that.

Saturn doesn't seem to be kicking my @ss the way it seems to get after others.

Perhaps I've been in need of Saturn's little nudge in the right direction?

I don't know what to say about your spider situation... I would wig out, making my husband catch them and put them out of the house! EEK! I'm creeped out by spiders... anything with more arms and legs than I have MAY NOT live under the same roof as me! I don't kill 'em though... just make 'em relocate.

posted March 07, 2006 11:55 PM         

When I see one walk, I scream with a horror nothing else could give me. Truly they give me so much psychological damage, I do not know why. Part of it is because I have now allowed my self to become a murderer when it comes to them, since one jumped onto me while I tried to take it outside.

I try to make excuses as to why I am right to kill them, like

1. They're invading MY territory (but they don't know it's mine!)

2. Something that hideous can't possibly have feelings (but how to be sure)

3. They are the making of the devil (?)

4. Who would want to be a spider anyway...

5. Would the world really miss their kind?

posted March 08, 2006 03:27 PM         

Well thank you Eliza for that website.

"When a spider comes into your life, it is time to pay attention. Spider teaches you that what you weave now is what you will encounter in the future."

That quote from the website was a good reminder for me. I do believe that the spiders are a message but I have been struggling to make sense of what they represent specifically.

Obe, I don't know if you're any more of a murderer than anyone else who eats meat, or kills flies, or whatever. I guess it's all relative. I personally like spiders, even though I have had numerous spider bites over the years (the worst being the one in the above story - lol).

I have learned to like them more and not be as intimidated by them. I guess they are like anything else we do not understand...a lack of understanding creates fear and spiders are not exactly the cutest of cuddly creatures!

Anyhow, I like the whole weaving/future idea since I am in the middle of my Strun Return and anything that can make better sense of that is certainly good in my books!
(Gee willikers, I cannot wait for it to be over!)

Peace!

Love

posted March 12, 2006 08:05 AM         

Love, I swear that they probably are higher {or lower} beings with messages, but far out they're creepy. I don't blame you. Since I was about 15 I had a system of catching spiders. Usually I'd place a container over them (try to watch the legs though} then slide some cardboard under and throw everything out a window. I'd retrieve them the next day.

Far out they're creepy. What I LOVE are green tree frogs. I swear, something very high powered about them!

Dean.

posted September 27, 2006 12:27 PM         

Spider #43 - Weaving

Spider wove the web that brought humans the first picture of the alphabet. The letters were part of the angles of her web.
Deer asked Spider what she was weaving and why all the lines looked like symbols. Spider replied, "Why Deer, it is time for Earth's children to learn to make records of their progress in their Earth Walk." Deer answered Spider, "But they already have pictures that show through symbols the stories of their experiences." "Yes," Spider said, "But Earth's children are growing more complex, and their future generations will need to know more. The ones to come won't remember how to read the petroglyphs."
So it was that Spider wove the first primordial alphabet, as she had woven the dream of the world that had become manifest. Spider's dream of the physical world had come to fruition millions of years before.
Spider's body is made like the number eight, consisting of two lobe-like parts connected at the waist, and eight legs. Spider is the symbol for the infinite possibilities of creation. Her eight legs represent the four winds of change and the four directions of the medicine wheel.
Spider weaves the webs of fate for those who get caught in her web and become her dinner. This is similar to humans who get caught in the web of illusion in the physical world, and never see beyond the horizon into the other dimensions.
The web of fate also represents a wheel of life, which does not include any alternatives or solutions. It is typically human to get caught in the polarity of good or bad fortune without realizing that we can change it at any time. If we are not decisive enough about changing our lots in life, we may end up being consumed by our fears and limitations.
Spider is the female energy of the creative force that weaves the beautiful deigns of life. Her web has hundreds of intricate patterns which catch the morning dew.
If Spider has dropped from her web into your cards today, she may be telling you to create, create, create! Look for new alternatives to your present impasse. She can also be warning you that you are coming too close to an entangling situation. Spider could be asking you to use a journal to write out and review your progress. If you do this, you will not forget how you are creating a new of different phase in your life.
Spider brings a message of a different kind when she sees you becoming a bit too involved in the weaving of your life plans to notice opportunity at the outskirts of your web. If this is the case, Spider gets your attention so that you notice that something you have woven has borne fruit. Congratulations! Spider caught you just in time, before you missed the opportunity on the edge of your web of reality.
The most important message from Spider is that you are an infinite being who will continue to weave the patterns of life and living throughout time. Do not fail to see the expansiveness of the eternal plan.

Contrary
The contrary aspect of Spider is akin to the negative side of woman. Spider will eat her mate if she gets too caught up in herself to see the validity of honoring male energy. The warrior at her side is a strong balancing force. If you have become disdainful of your mate (male or female) and have felt very superior recently, you are not honoring either your male or female side.
If you are not presently in a relationship, you may have chosen a member of your family or a workmate to harass. This type of negative criticism only breaks down relations, and is a reflection of something you hate about yourself. If you are trying to feed your ego in this manner, you have lost the game. You are entangled in the web of your own illusion about who you really are. It may be time to look at why you are being critical and why you are feeling so weak that you must attack others.
If this does not apply to your situation, take a look at another message that contrary Spider medicine brings: lack of creativity. If you fail to use your talents to get the web spinning, your lack of creativity can change into destructiveness. If you are feeling stagnant and unable to move in a positive direction, you may come to resent others who are doing well. This resentment will become a Black Widow Spider and eat you up, and the only one to mourn your demise will be you. Get moving, find joy and new ideas in the accomplishments of others, and use them to propel you into a new phase of creative spinning on your own web of delight. Observe Spider's web and find pleasure in the ideas you receive from her universal language.

Overview
Dance your dreams alive. Create from your heart’s bliss. Weave the web you want to live.

*Source: Sams, Jamie and Carson, David. Medicine Cards

posted September 29, 2006 06:19 AM         

It's funny because all the spiders who were hanging out with me in my room for months have migrated downstairs and now they all live in my kitchen. I guess I need to figure out what that might symbolize now...maybe nurturing/feeding/nourishment..?

Or maybe they just like the pretty yellow walls and pile of dirty dishes?