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Mannu
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posted March 22, 2006 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
13anshee,
It was a privelege to read your thoughts.

Lialei,
Greetings

I read your posts about that supernova.
Makes me think that the sky was traditionally thought to never change and be quiet place. Yet theres so many things going on as I type those last few lines and many more later.

The feel link is nice too. Very eastern.
Where I was going with that thought was how intelligence is organized every where around us. For example if I take a strand of my hair, then I could build a clone of myself using DNA in the near future. Now will that person be even close to me spiritually.
I think I was too hasty in using the word spiritual. What I was trying to imagine was the world of 'form' is illusionary. What lies beneath is all that counts and we are all connected to this source like it or not. The 'form' world appears to be how we relate with each other objectively, see things our own way
and then relate with each other. We would each color our experience in the way we see things. But in the inside world, everything is just one spirit, they see things as they are. And thats why I think we have to go inside of us to realize who we are. This is the greatest realization that many have spoken before. Ever wonder why people can read other persons thoughts? Does privacy really count given this realization? Or how about why must one guy suffer bad karma and the other must enjoy good karma. Is God's system capitalist? Hehehehe.....

I was reading about how the one small atom is the one big universe at the same.
Are we all in the mind of God? How rapidly things occurs in the cosmos before he blinks --lol.


Well I am half drowsy by now.....and must sleep.

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MysticMelody
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posted March 22, 2006 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Lia, loved the feel.com link. It deserves it's own thread.

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Lialei
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posted March 23, 2006 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
It was nice, wasn't it?

Mannu ,
as always, your thoughts inspire for more.
Something about the humble approach of your quest of Truth,
that says so much,
yet at the same time leaves enough open room for a furthuring.

When I saw the DNA nebula, my first imaginings were of thinking of how microscopic DNA is within us...then imagining, what if that IMMENSE nebula, was a microscopic strand of DNA in comparison to what is outside of IT??
It's mind-blowing to think of how extrordinarily Vast things could be beyond our perception.

And so, perception to form. Yes, I believe that's true, that our perception gives form.
If we were to erase our personal history...all that we are fixated on 'knowing', what would be seen before us instead of what we are seeing now?
As in....since we are so very young, this world around us is given form to us, from the perception of those who have come before us...and so on and so on.

When I think of going within, as you mentioned, I think of an authenticity that is pure -- free, beyond the touch of any shapings/formings/alterations from outside of us.
This is why knowledge can be potentially harmful in its way. Too much outside information, without taking in the quiet of our own, clouds the gentle intuition of sensing our own Truth. Which ...unites with a grander Truth. With eyeless eyes we See.
With earless ears we Hear. With know-less perceptions, we know.

There is comfort there. Such a strengthening solace when it is reached and released.

Also, I agree, it's amazing to think about how when we look up into the night sky, the stars and heavens look so fixed and frozen in time to us....even though in reality it's all in continual movement and expansion.
We sense security from its illusion of timelessness down here.
Also, I often think about the way our first thoughts on gazing upward are usually humility and meaninglessness.
But really...when you think about the mere preciousness and impossibility of our existance...perception easily shifts.

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posted March 23, 2006 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message

http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/

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posted March 23, 2006 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
>>>Also, I often think about the way our first thoughts on gazing upward are usually humility and meaninglessness.


Loved that statement a lot

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posted April 18, 2006 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
belated thank you, Mannu.

My daughters just gave a few "wows" and "cools" for the last link I posted here.

During bathtime, the ultimate question was asked of me, "how come there is a Universe, and how did the Universe get here, if there was nothing before it?"

From there we talked of the Big Bang (the definition of theories as opposed to fact), Pluto's distance from Earth and the Sun,how the sun is a star, meteors, comets, the orbiting patterns of the earth and moon,
undiscovered planets (my daughter says there are 305 yet undiscovered ), light years, atmospheres, photosyntheses, rain forests, global-greed environmental destruction...solar power, man-created substitute energies, etc, etc...and then came here to Linda Land for a finale java tutorial.

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posted April 18, 2006 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
I remember having lot of fun moving the prism around in one of the tutorials.
Its quite high tech.

I am so glad your daughters have asked you such questions. Wonderful!!!

I hear that there is a shortage of qualified physics teachers in the place that I am visiting. Isn't it funny, after conquering the moon, we didn't even think of sending another flight to moon. Same must be with all the discoveries/inventions I guess. I am thinking that all the new kids are in born with lots of information already.

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posted April 19, 2006 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Mannu:

Quoute:
"A question arises who is behind the laws of karma? May be there is no one that is the cosmos is, was and ever will be. Or there is some one and it is us who are the eyes and ears of this being. Well this question is not important for the time being for me on the path to self-realization. What is important now is for me to lead a moral life. Because leading a moral life makes me feel good. "

Silverstone~
I do, however, think that this question is essential to you.... you are a great person in search for truth... when you learn to unscramble the past you will know your true purpose... everything will become crystal clear little by little... when you are ready the time will be ready... I felt the same way too at one point and sometimes I am still bewildered. But when I search within I find the answers...

Salome... Quote:
karma perhaps is a teaching principle...a guiding force, leading us always back to ourselves. once we re-discover our essence, we have transcended the bounds of karma.

Silverstone~
What a great answer... it truly does indeed touch my heart. As I states... we need to unscramble the past... and wow what an illumination... it has changed my life...

Lialei:
What a wonderful poem, I love the first stanza:
it still comes to me now
like a blissful dream
encasing time in a shroud
A quick glimpse
of a truth long forgotten.

Fayte:
I think you tied it all together..." The cycle of an "eye for eye"...must be broken...payback to those who wronged us must end.

Siverstone~
Very true indeed.

Mannu~ I am going to make my comments short as I believe they have answered them for you.

The only way to break the cycle is through compassion and forgiveness.... know thyself... the key is your third eye... see our eyes deceive us. Example: You can walk into a coversation with 2 people and only catch them at the end... but you didn't know what was really going on... because sometimes we only see with our eyes and not the third eye... and the only one that can deceive you is you

When you learn to unscramble the past you will understand more... As Fayte said, "Know thyself..." Mannu when you search from within... you will begin to vibrate at a higher frequency... which has a lot to do with a former post you posted about the Kundalini... reaching illumination

Your dreams will begin to make more sense to you when you are attuned to your higher elf... many times you are not dreaming but Astral traveling... and sometimes we tend to confuse them with dreams... than you realize days/weeks/months later that it occurs exactly the same... meaning when you Astral travel means your going to be there... give it time and embrace them

As above so below


What a great topic Mannu~

LOTUSHEARTONE ALSO PLACED AN AWESOME ANSWER TO THIS IN A FORMER FORUM IN THE OOBER GALAXY... I HOPE SHE COME IN HERE TO COMMENT... HERE IS HER QUOTE WHICH I BELIEVE ECHOES MY STATEMENT ABOUT KARMA: " there is a reason for everything..that happens..for every action..a re-action..the universal laws are very simple..you reap what you sow..you get what you give..every bad thing that has happened to me in this particular life..was put in motion..from the beginning..I accept my karma..and learn and grow..and forgive..coming full circle..this allows me to keep a balance..a center in me..
evil..and darkness..and fear..are only as strong as you allow them to be..an evil entity..has little energy..very low..ah..but feed it your fear..and negativity..and watch it grow. ..." Lotusheartone.

Cheers

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posted April 19, 2006 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Mannu- I edited my comments on your Karma topic... I put more information there... read again... I also placed some of Lotusheartone's former quotes, which I believe are important..

Cheers,

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posted April 19, 2006 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Cheers

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Mannu
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posted April 19, 2006 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message
Yes...I read LHS comments. I agree with it. Theres some new thoughts going around these days about Karma. At first I thought it must be just a new age thing, but this one came from a very simply person? I will post it soon.

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posted April 19, 2006 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Looking forward in hearing your new thoughts...

Cheers,

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